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2012 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Non-Minnesotans arguing about the weather...

alfablue said:
Again, you are missing my points. Most important was the major wish that New Orleans would be wiped off the map just as they were getting hit. To wish that kind of ill will against fellow Americans is incredibly pathetic in my book, since your problem with that is a few dollars of your taxes. So to want that kind of crap for your money- that takes all moral high ground that you possibly could have totally off the table.

Now to be pretty pleased that someone has lost her home for the 5th time. For your money. Seriously? Yes, perhaps we should look at it and not rebuild in the same area. But so many seem to take a lot of joy in this person's suffering. What did she do to you? Your pathetic little dollars for rebuilding that important?

I leave the last thing- I thought some of you were pro work. This is work.
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Ah, but I'm failing to see where I said I was happy to see it happen. I just don't feel sorry for that happening.

I just bought a house in Tampa, FL. I know that due to this, I have taken on a risk that a hurricane could affect me directly. I'm not going to expect people to feel sorry for me if a hurricane does make landfall near my house. Why? I made the decision to take that risk, I'll face the consequences if need be.
 
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alfablue said:
Uh, New Orleans is the subject of all the hate. That's not New Orleans, nor it is below ground.

So your point is???

Besides, my real beef is that so many of you were wishing that people homes would get lost. Forgive me, but that's just pathetic. Hoping that people's lives get disrupted that badly, possibly being killed, how you can ever claim to have some kind of moral high gound on any subject what so ever is beyond me.

If you sleep more soundly hoping that people lives get ruined, well, you need a lot of help, IMHO.
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I don't want anyone's house destroyed, I just don't want to have my tax money pay for other peoples repeated decisions to build in river flood plains or in coastal zones that are highly susceptible to storm surge (or in the case of New Orleans, both).
 
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Looking at the current projected tracks for Leslie and Michael
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These will make trans atlantic flying interesting, won't it??
 
Re: 2012 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Non-Minnesotans arguing about the weather...

Ralph Baer said:
Not much has happened this month although September is normally the peak of the hurricane season.

Nadine has become a hurricane again after degenerating into a tropical depression for a while, but it is mainly disturbing the fish. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?5-daynl#contents
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Nadine never degenerated into a tropical depression, it lost it's tropical characteristics, meaning it transitioned into a cold core storm instead of a warm core storm. by definition that means that the center of the storm is warmer than the outer bands in tropical systems and is opposite in all other systems. Once the storm went back over warmer waters, it regained its tropical characteristics and was given back its name. The reason it kept it's name was because it never lost its center of circulation.
 
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Chickens@NU said:
Nadine never degenerated into a tropical depression, it lost it's tropical characteristics, meaning it transitioned into a cold core storm instead of a warm core storm. by definition that means that the center of the storm is warmer than the outer bands in tropical systems and is opposite in all other systems. Once the storm went back over warmer waters, it regained its tropical characteristics and was given back its name. The reason it kept it's name was because it never lost its center of circulation.
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Thanks. I had misinterpreted that. As Chuck Berry sang: Nadine (Is That You?). ;)
 
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This one is making me nervous here in NJ. I do not need another Irene(or worse). This one is tough to call. The more alarmist of the meteorologists are talking doom and gloom already for monday. The various computer models are in some agreement but with lots of variability. We should have a much better idea in another 24 hours-after in has passed Jamaica an dperhaps Cuba. Fingers crossed here though.
 
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Sandy is exploding right now. Could be up to Cat 2 shortly. The Hunters are going through it now. Where it goes from here in the coming days, who knows GFS has it back out to see, while most every other model has it from Jersey to Maine.
 
NMU8405 said:
Sandy is exploding right now. Could be up to Cat 2 shortly. The Hunters are going through it now. Where it goes from here in the coming days, who knows GFS has it back out to see, while most every other model has it from Jersey to Maine.
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GFS is showing a Maine strike Tuesday night and the ECMWF is showing a Delaware strike Monday. We'll know more tomorrow afternoon when they have more data from the front that is expected to absorb it ...
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Not surprising after those Italian scientists were sued recently. Every hurricane will now be predicted to be a Katrina.
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Maybe not another Katrina but this is shaping up to be a worse storm than last years Halloween Nor'easter....
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Not surprising after those Italian scientists were sued recently. Every hurricane will now be predicted to be a Katrina.
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Italy's justice system is the worst in the first world. Them and England are the reasons the US government finally passed a law saying if you can't prove slander/libel in a US court, you can't collect from US citizens.
 
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Chickens@NU said:
Maybe not another Katrina but this is shaping up to be a worse storm than last years Halloween Nor'easter....
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When I was chasing storms as News Director of a certain weather company that I no longer mention :rolleyes: I was sent to cover what they were calling a "superstorm" that was expected to slam the Eastern Seaboard much as Sandy is. There was the potential for major snow because of a cold front heading east, major destruction, etc, etc, etc.

Some superstorm....we drove down to Richmond and then up I-95 through the Hudson Valley and into the Catskills, where we finally spotted a dusting of snow on the tops of the mountains.

I'm just sayin' :)
 
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SteveP said:
When I was chasing storms as News Director of a certain weather company that I no longer mention :rolleyes: I was sent to cover what they were calling a "superstorm" that was expected to slam the Eastern Seaboard much as Sandy is. There was the potential for major snow because of a cold front heading east, major destruction, etc, etc, etc.

Some superstorm....we drove down to Richmond and then up I-95 through the Hudson Valley and into the Catskills, where we finally spotted a dusting of snow on the tops of the mountains.

I'm just sayin' :)
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This one won't be a snowstorm though. This one has the potential to be one of the strongest Nor'easters ever to hit the East Coast. There are a few models that not only are predicting the storm to have the lowest pressure ever recorded in the US outside of a hurricane, but some also have tracks that would literally be "worst-case scenarios" for some of the big cities. It's still 4-5 days away, and nothing is set in stone, but the potential is there for a truly historic storm.
 
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ScottK said:
This one won't be a snowstorm though. This one has the potential to be one of the strongest Nor'easters ever to hit the East Coast. There are a few models that not only are predicting the storm to have the lowest pressure ever recorded in the US outside of a hurricane, but some also have tracks that would literally be "worst-case scenarios" for some of the big cities. It's still 4-5 days away, and nothing is set in stone, but the potential is there for a truly historic storm.
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Pretty much what i am seeing being forecasted. The question now is whether this one just rakes along the east coast doing horrific damage along the way over an extended stretch of coastline-or whether (and where) it might make a quick left turn westward and make landfall to do its damage in a more concise but still substantial manner. I am not sure that I have ever seen something behave like that so late in the hurricane season but there is always a first time for everything.
 
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