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2011-2012 UNH Wildcats
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Re: 2011-2012 UNH Wildcats
It looks kinda like a college hockey version of facebook.
It looks kinda like a college hockey version of facebook.
Re: 2011-2012 UNH Wildcats
I don't know about Moses' actual shot %. You might be right, but I hope his production continues. Actually, I don't care where the production comes from really. I'm just hoping the Cats can get a little momentum going into the Merrimack series and beyond like you.
I don't know about Moses' actual shot %. You might be right, but I hope his production continues. Actually, I don't care where the production comes from really. I'm just hoping the Cats can get a little momentum going into the Merrimack series and beyond like you.
Gibber
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Re: 2011-2012 UNH Wildcats
According to UNH Website stats, Moses has 16 G on 105 SOG for a G/SOG % at 0.152, third best on team. Downing has the best G/SOG % at 0.194, but only 6 g on 31 shots. Henrion has a woeful 0.065 with only 5 g on 77 shots. Sorkin has second highest G/SOG % at 0.158 with 6 for 36; Goumas fourth at 0.136 with 6 for 44. But, what amazes me about Moses is that with all his speed and creatively around the net, he gets even fewer shots than might be expected, as I have seen him miss everything time and again after breaking lose, even open nets. If Moses could finish the way Butler did during his senior year or Thompson did the first half of his senior year, Moses would be a runaway leader with goals in all of Div 1, in my opinion. But, I still think that he is the most fun UNH forward to watch since another Steve, that being Steve Saviano. Also, consider that whenever Stevie has control of the puck the other team does not have the opportunity to put pressure on three frosh D-men and now a frosh goalie. So, without him, the Cats would be duking it out with the Catamounts for the Hockey East basement this season rather than fighting for an eighth place finish. I still think that this team has a chance in the Hockey East tourney as the frosh D-men mature and with DeSmith in net, even without Speelman the rest of the way. But, they will need to win two on the road and at least a game at the Garden to make the NCAAs this year, I think, not to mention getting their regular season record up over 0.500.
http://unhwildcats.com/sports/mice/2011-12/teams/newhampshire?view=lineup
According to UNH Website stats, Moses has 16 G on 105 SOG for a G/SOG % at 0.152, third best on team. Downing has the best G/SOG % at 0.194, but only 6 g on 31 shots. Henrion has a woeful 0.065 with only 5 g on 77 shots. Sorkin has second highest G/SOG % at 0.158 with 6 for 36; Goumas fourth at 0.136 with 6 for 44. But, what amazes me about Moses is that with all his speed and creatively around the net, he gets even fewer shots than might be expected, as I have seen him miss everything time and again after breaking lose, even open nets. If Moses could finish the way Butler did during his senior year or Thompson did the first half of his senior year, Moses would be a runaway leader with goals in all of Div 1, in my opinion. But, I still think that he is the most fun UNH forward to watch since another Steve, that being Steve Saviano. Also, consider that whenever Stevie has control of the puck the other team does not have the opportunity to put pressure on three frosh D-men and now a frosh goalie. So, without him, the Cats would be duking it out with the Catamounts for the Hockey East basement this season rather than fighting for an eighth place finish. I still think that this team has a chance in the Hockey East tourney as the frosh D-men mature and with DeSmith in net, even without Speelman the rest of the way. But, they will need to win two on the road and at least a game at the Garden to make the NCAAs this year, I think, not to mention getting their regular season record up over 0.500.
http://unhwildcats.com/sports/mice/2011-12/teams/newhampshire?view=lineup
Greg Ambrose
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Re: 2011-2012 UNH Wildcats
I agree that UNH is better having Moses than not. However with his skill set I expected more production this year. With 105 shots on goal and 16 goals, that translates to 89 shots that did not go in. I think we all agree that if UNH is to move up in the standings, the player who appears to control the puck more than any other has to finish more often. You don't want to put undo pressure on the kid, but he is our best offensive player and I think it is reasonable to think that as he goes, so goes UNH fortunes down the stretch.
BTW, the only way UNH makes the NCAA's is by winning the HE tournament. That means beating one of either BU, BC or Merrimack on the road, then probably defeating the other two at the Garden. Pretty tall order if you ask me. Realistically, all I am asking is for a strong finish hat the team can build on for next year.
I agree that UNH is better having Moses than not. However with his skill set I expected more production this year. With 105 shots on goal and 16 goals, that translates to 89 shots that did not go in. I think we all agree that if UNH is to move up in the standings, the player who appears to control the puck more than any other has to finish more often. You don't want to put undo pressure on the kid, but he is our best offensive player and I think it is reasonable to think that as he goes, so goes UNH fortunes down the stretch.
BTW, the only way UNH makes the NCAA's is by winning the HE tournament. That means beating one of either BU, BC or Merrimack on the road, then probably defeating the other two at the Garden. Pretty tall order if you ask me. Realistically, all I am asking is for a strong finish hat the team can build on for next year.
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Also, Moses is UNH's leading scorer and he is MINUS for the season. Pretty tough to be a top team when your leading scorers on the negative side.
Also, Moses is UNH's leading scorer and he is MINUS for the season. Pretty tough to be a top team when your leading scorers on the negative side.
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Take away the two 4-goal games where he went 8-15 and he's just over 9% at 8-88. That puts him behind the obvious guys like Goumas, Downing, Sorkin, a couple of guys that shouldn't count because of limited opportunity, and then even Kipp and Borisenok. Not good enough for your best player, IMO. But either way I don't think there is much of anything to complain about with Moses...he plays hard every night, he generates chances, and has pretty much done what could realistically be expected of him, especially with some of the "talent" around him not playing very well this season.
A few other things that are really getting to me in either a good or bad way....
Thrush is leading the team in +/-...sure he probably doesn't spend much time out against the other teams top line(s) but for a guy that wasn't supposed to be here to be +8 with 9 points and some good penalty killing time, you've got to think he's been more impressive than any other UNH rookie when compared to expectations prior to their arrival
Kudos also to Goumas, TvR and Hardowa who have also managed to stay on the plus side of things in spite of regular time against the opponents best players.
Now the not-so-good...
Brett Kostolansky is a -10 and isn't contributing much at the offensive end. He's not a pure offensive defenseman, so you can live with that as long as the defensive side of his game is there, but it just hasn't been. The whole season has been a big struggle for him, and he's really the guy I expected to be the steady rock of the defensive group this season with Kipp and Hardowa being fairly inconsistent at times over their careers.
Speelman before his injury...11 games, -5, 3 goals on 36 shots (8%). Just not good enough for a guy that needed to produce and has shown that he can be a very good player in the past. going -5 in 11 games in particular is just not acceptable for a veteran leader, especially when the offensive numbers aren't there. Unlike Kosto, this was a guy that we all expected to produce offensively.
Digi...I'm not going there.
Finally, Henrion...wow. He's shooting 6%. He's -5. He leads the team in Penalty Minutes. If they kept a stat for awful shot selection, he'd be leading that one too I'd guess. This was another guy that needed to perform at a high level and has shown in the past that he's very capable of it. He needed to be one of UNH's top 3 forwards this year after Moses and Goumas, and he just hasn't been close to that at either end of the rink.
In short, the rookies have been in many respects better than what we realistically could or should have expected from them. Thrush, Downing, DeSmith, and TvR have been standouts, and at times have individually been the best players on the team. Knodel and Agosta have held their own and done fine, and Camper and Willows are role players and have mostly done what role players do. This team has been let down in a huge way by some of their veteran players who obviously have not been able to shoulder the added burden of being a go-to player now that the Kessel's and Butler's and Thompson's of the world have moved on in the last few seasons. Thankfully Moses hasn't been as bad as some of the other veterans have, or this season would be an even tougher pill to swallow.
Take away the two 4-goal games where he went 8-15 and he's just over 9% at 8-88. That puts him behind the obvious guys like Goumas, Downing, Sorkin, a couple of guys that shouldn't count because of limited opportunity, and then even Kipp and Borisenok. Not good enough for your best player, IMO. But either way I don't think there is much of anything to complain about with Moses...he plays hard every night, he generates chances, and has pretty much done what could realistically be expected of him, especially with some of the "talent" around him not playing very well this season.
A few other things that are really getting to me in either a good or bad way....
Thrush is leading the team in +/-...sure he probably doesn't spend much time out against the other teams top line(s) but for a guy that wasn't supposed to be here to be +8 with 9 points and some good penalty killing time, you've got to think he's been more impressive than any other UNH rookie when compared to expectations prior to their arrival
Kudos also to Goumas, TvR and Hardowa who have also managed to stay on the plus side of things in spite of regular time against the opponents best players.
Now the not-so-good...
Brett Kostolansky is a -10 and isn't contributing much at the offensive end. He's not a pure offensive defenseman, so you can live with that as long as the defensive side of his game is there, but it just hasn't been. The whole season has been a big struggle for him, and he's really the guy I expected to be the steady rock of the defensive group this season with Kipp and Hardowa being fairly inconsistent at times over their careers.
Speelman before his injury...11 games, -5, 3 goals on 36 shots (8%). Just not good enough for a guy that needed to produce and has shown that he can be a very good player in the past. going -5 in 11 games in particular is just not acceptable for a veteran leader, especially when the offensive numbers aren't there. Unlike Kosto, this was a guy that we all expected to produce offensively.
Digi...I'm not going there.
Finally, Henrion...wow. He's shooting 6%. He's -5. He leads the team in Penalty Minutes. If they kept a stat for awful shot selection, he'd be leading that one too I'd guess. This was another guy that needed to perform at a high level and has shown in the past that he's very capable of it. He needed to be one of UNH's top 3 forwards this year after Moses and Goumas, and he just hasn't been close to that at either end of the rink.
In short, the rookies have been in many respects better than what we realistically could or should have expected from them. Thrush, Downing, DeSmith, and TvR have been standouts, and at times have individually been the best players on the team. Knodel and Agosta have held their own and done fine, and Camper and Willows are role players and have mostly done what role players do. This team has been let down in a huge way by some of their veteran players who obviously have not been able to shoulder the added burden of being a go-to player now that the Kessel's and Butler's and Thompson's of the world have moved on in the last few seasons. Thankfully Moses hasn't been as bad as some of the other veterans have, or this season would be an even tougher pill to swallow.
Re: 2011-2012 UNH Wildcats
The challenge for Henrion (from where I've sat) is that he's developed the habit of motoring around the offensive zone with the puck - in a style similar to Moses - searching for the slightest opening to shoot the puck. He's not as fast or as agile as Moses so more often than not, he shoots from a location where he is either not completely open and/or is a long way from the net (often from a bad angle). Unlike Moses, Henrion is more of a "pure goal scorer" (like Thompson) who needs someone to set him up for a medium to high percentage shot. I may be forgetting someone but I can't remember Henrion playing with a center who could dish to him the way DeSimone (or even Leblanc) did for their linemates.
The challenge for Henrion (from where I've sat) is that he's developed the habit of motoring around the offensive zone with the puck - in a style similar to Moses - searching for the slightest opening to shoot the puck. He's not as fast or as agile as Moses so more often than not, he shoots from a location where he is either not completely open and/or is a long way from the net (often from a bad angle). Unlike Moses, Henrion is more of a "pure goal scorer" (like Thompson) who needs someone to set him up for a medium to high percentage shot. I may be forgetting someone but I can't remember Henrion playing with a center who could dish to him the way DeSimone (or even Leblanc) did for their linemates.
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I agree with most of what you say here, but I do disagree that Henrion is even remotely close to being a "pure goal scorer". I think the dearth of offensive talent at UNH right now has us wishing that he was.
I agree with most of what you say here, but I do disagree that Henrion is even remotely close to being a "pure goal scorer". I think the dearth of offensive talent at UNH right now has us wishing that he was.
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A fair point. I was thinking of Henrion's production when he played for the US NTDP team and the Junior Bruins. Maybe it's more accurate to say Henrion came to UNH with the reputation of being a goal scorer.
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Not sure what his numbers were with the Jr. Bruins...but he was 8th in goals and 10th in points on the U18's the season prior to coming to UNH. He only finished that high because guys like Palmieri, McCarthy, didn't play close to a full season. Even a guy like Nieto averaged nearly twice as many points per game as Henrion did (albeit in a small but still relevant 13 game sample), and he was only 15. It may be semantics to some, but I'd say he came to UNH with the reputation as a shooter, rather than that of a goal scorer.
Agreed that many UNH fans, myself included thought he had a chance to develop into a goal scorer because of his reputation as a shooter. While he certainly can fire a heavy shot, his skating, decision making, and accuracy have never quite caught up enough to help him get over the hump.
Not sure what his numbers were with the Jr. Bruins...but he was 8th in goals and 10th in points on the U18's the season prior to coming to UNH. He only finished that high because guys like Palmieri, McCarthy, didn't play close to a full season. Even a guy like Nieto averaged nearly twice as many points per game as Henrion did (albeit in a small but still relevant 13 game sample), and he was only 15. It may be semantics to some, but I'd say he came to UNH with the reputation as a shooter, rather than that of a goal scorer.
Agreed that many UNH fans, myself included thought he had a chance to develop into a goal scorer because of his reputation as a shooter. While he certainly can fire a heavy shot, his skating, decision making, and accuracy have never quite caught up enough to help him get over the hump.
Gibber
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Re: 2011-2012 UNH Wildcats
Finally finished all of the Frozen Fenway photos
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Finally finished all of the Frozen Fenway photos
Uploaded game and scenic shots
icewarrior
Warrior Medicine
Re: 2011-2012 UNH Wildcats
Which UNH players will have the biggest impact against the Warriors this weekend?
Which UNH players will have the biggest impact against the Warriors this weekend?
Re: 2011-2012 UNH Wildcats
DeSmith and the team defense will be more important than ever -- I can't see us winning if we let up 3 goals a night.
Cannata is so solid, especially against UNH (or so it feels).
As previously mentioned by others -- I think UNH fans would like to see Moses pot a couple each of the next two weekends.
DeSmith and the team defense will be more important than ever -- I can't see us winning if we let up 3 goals a night.
Cannata is so solid, especially against UNH (or so it feels).
As previously mentioned by others -- I think UNH fans would like to see Moses pot a couple each of the next two weekends.