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2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

Re: 2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

LakersFan said:
By the way, looking closely at USCHO.com's PWR, it appears not to be awarding a point for record vs. TUC. When you click on an individual comparission, both are 0 when one is clearly higher (BU vs UM for example).
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It doesn't appear to be consistent, because in some cases it does award a TUC point (UM vs UND for example).
 
Re: 2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

For games played through January 9, 2011

Code: 
  	Team                Rating 	
1 	Wisconsin           1.7720 
2 	Cornell             1.5666 	
3 	Minnesota           0.9915 
4 	Mercyhurst          0.9804 	
5 	Boston University   0.9647 	
6 	Minnesota Duluth    0.9442 	
7 	North Dakota        0.6257 	
8 	Boston College      0.5530 	
9 	Bemidji State       0.5176 	
10 	Ohio State          0.3630
 
Re: 2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

If the good doctor doesn't post an update, you can always check out his site yourself. And yes, we'd be in much better shape if the NCAA used the Rutter rankings instead of the PWR.:(
 
Re: 2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

The "we" in my previous post meant the Gophers, the team both brooky and I support, and is thus more specific and selfish than a general basis for Rutter being superior to the PWR and the PWR's primary criterium, RPI. I do not expect you or any fan of BU to share a belief that Rutter would be an improvement, because this season's Terriers would fare worse in that analysis. If you are interested in general case discussions of RPI versus Rutter, they exist on the women's forum, and RPI (or PWR) versus KRACH are all over USCHO. I know enough about statistics to understand some of what LakersFan and dave1381 are saying, but not enough to try to speak the language.
 
Re: 2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

I was out of town yesterday, and then I just figured I would wait and run my ratings after the Cornell at Mercyhurst game this evening. My mother is watching the kids, so my wife and I will actually be able to watch the game/do stats together for the first time in years.

Yes, I understand the implications of implying that doing stats together at a hockey game is the most exciting date we have had in the past two months. Our childern are doomed to geekdom.
 
Re: 2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

LakersFan said:
I was out of town yesterday, and then I just figured I would wait and run my ratings after the Cornell at Mercyhurst game this evening. My mother is watching the kids, so my wife and I will actually be able to watch the game/do stats together for the first time in years. .
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:D Isn't love grand?

LakersFan said:
Yes, I understand the implications of implying that doing stats together at a hockey game is the most exciting date we have had in the past two months. Our children are doomed to geekdom.
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Of course, the other very real possibility is that instead they will avoid like the plague patterning themselves after you. No worries. One of our roles as parents is mortifying our kids. ;)
 
Re: 2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

For games played through January 19, 2011

Code: 
  	Team 			Rating 	
1 	Wisconsin 		1.7643 	
2 	Cornell 		1.7077 
3 	Minnesota 		1.0361 	
4 	Boston University 	1.0264 
5 	Mercyhurst 		0.9427
6 	Minnesota Duluth 	0.8849 
7 	North Dakota 		0.6946 	
8 	Boston College 		0.5749 	
9 	Ohio State 		0.3991 	
10 	Bemidji State 		0.3767

And since Mercyhurst lost last night, my wife will never be allowed to attend a game without the kids as it is now bad luck :)
 
Re: 2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

LakersFan said:
Yes, I understand the implications of implying that doing stats together at a hockey game is the most exciting date we have had in the past two months. Our childern are doomed to geekdom.
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Well, since I have seen your kids at the rink not wearing pocket protecters, they are fine.
 
Re: 2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

For games played through January 23, 2011

Code: 
  	Team 			Rating 
1 	Wisconsin 		1.7435 	
2 	Cornell 		1.7321 	
3 	Minnesota 		1.1427 
4 	Boston University 	1.0455 
5 	Mercyhurst 		0.9937 
6 	Minnesota Duluth 	0.9492 
7 	North Dakota 		0.7362 	
8 	Boston College 		0.4971 	
9 	Bemidji State 		0.4669 
10 	Providence 		0.3933
 
Re: 2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

LakersFan said:
For games played through January 23, 2011

Code: 
  	Team 			Rating 
1 	Wisconsin 		1.7435 	
2 	Cornell 		1.7321 	
3 	Minnesota 		1.1427 
4 	Boston University 	1.0455 
5 	Mercyhurst 		0.9937 
6 	Minnesota Duluth 	0.9492 
7 	North Dakota 		0.7362 	
8 	Boston College 		0.4971 	
9 	Bemidji State 		0.4669 
10 	Providence 		0.3933
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This is pretty close for #1-#8 to the USCHO poll for this week.

Team (First Place Votes) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (10) 23-2-1 145 1
2 Cornell ( 5) 20-1-0 140 2
3 Boston University 19-2-3 118 3
4 Minnesota 18-6-1 98 5
5 Mercyhurst 20-5-0 96 4
6 Minnesota-Duluth 12-7-3 75 6
7 North Dakota 14-7-3 54 8
8 Boston College 14-5-4 46 7
9 Providence 17-8-1 38 9
10 Quinnipiac 16-8-1 9 10

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankingsnew/#ixzz1BzALQ3hk

By the way, can't find the USCHO poll thread. Did it get deleted?
 
Re: 2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

For games played through January 30, 2011

Code: 
	Team 			Rating 
1 	Cornell 		1.7605 	
2 	Wisconsin 		1.7480 	
3 	Minnesota 		1.1581 
4 	Boston University 	1.0788 	
5 	Mercyhurst 		1.0233 
6 	Minnesota Duluth 	1.0078 	
7 	North Dakota 		0.6623 
8 	Boston College 		0.5827 	
9 	Bemidji State 		0.3915 
10 	Ohio State 		0.3707
 
Re: 2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

A different outcome at the top than this week's USCHO poll in which Wisconsin, 2-0-2 against UMD and UM during the past two weeks, saw one additional first-place vote swing into its column. At the same time Cornell declined slightly in a qualitative poll, its dominating performance over much lesser competition during the same period (4-0 by a combined 25-1) caused it to rise in a quantitative ranking.
 
Re: 2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

comefrombehind said:
A different outcome at the top than this week's USCHO poll in which Wisconsin, 2-0-2 against UMD and UM during the past two weeks, saw one additional first-place vote swing into its column. At the same time Cornell declined slightly in a qualitative poll, its dominating performance over much lesser competition during the same period (4-0 by a combined 25-1) caused it to rise in a quantitative ranking.
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That is an understatement your "lesser competition" has a collective record of 19-52-11 with several of the wins coming against each other. Clearly the computer and the eastern pollsters don't really adjust for the strength of schedule effectively. UW has played 17 games against the 10 teams shown above; the only common opponent is Mercyhurst. Cornell split with them and UW won 7-4. Any ranking that places Cornell above UW at this point can't be taken seriously. Cornell is good, but really has yet to prove how good they are, UW has proven it several times already. Just my opinion
 
Re: 2010-2011 Rutter DI Computer Rankings Thread

As a Wisconsin native and lifelong UW fan, I know how dangerous it can be to tangle with a rabid badger. You're right granddaddyscout; "lesser quality" is an understatement, which is why my actual characterization reads "much lesser quality." Ah yes, let's examine the common opponent. UW prevailed 7-4 at home against Mercyhurst. The goal totals in Cornell's two-game home-and-home series with the Lakers were 6-4. Perhaps a respectable enough performance that the Big Red might someday be allowed to carry the bags and sticks of the mighty Badgers into an arena.

Food for post-season thought -- Cornell won 3-0 this year in Erie, PA. UW's last shutout in this city on a real lake was in 2000. Number of players on the current rosters from those games: Cornell 20, Wisconsin 0.
 
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