Re: 2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
Well, that is a very good question. One minute they were going, and the next they were not.
Well, that is a very good question. One minute they were going, and the next they were not.
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2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
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ToeDragTony
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Re: 2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
That is unfortunate. I am sure if they had those 2 players perhaps they would have helped to maybe put them over the top in some of the games they played (albeit for the Ohio game).
That is unfortunate. I am sure if they had those 2 players perhaps they would have helped to maybe put them over the top in some of the games they played (albeit for the Ohio game).
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
Re: 2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
Well maybe Mission looked average to you but IMHO they were still ahead of HB, BT and Ohio. Mission was 2-1 after the round robin facing 3 PW teams and made it into the A-Bracket. Unlucky for them they ran into powerhouse Aeros in the crossover game to get eliminated early.
Honeybaked, BT and Ohio did not even make it to the A-bracket. All three of them were 1-2 after the round robin placing 6th, 7th and 8th in their respective pools of 10, in other words bottom half of the field.
The only three Non-Ontario teams making it into the top 16 were TI, LC and Mission, finishing 7,10 and 15th in the field of 40 upon completion of the playoffs.
HB, BT and Ohio ended up in the B field, finishing 17th, 19th and 20th in the event upon completion of the playoffs.
These results suggest the latter three teams are at best on par with the midpack PW teams. Over half of the PW teams ended up in the A-Bracket.
Well maybe Mission looked average to you but IMHO they were still ahead of HB, BT and Ohio. Mission was 2-1 after the round robin facing 3 PW teams and made it into the A-Bracket. Unlucky for them they ran into powerhouse Aeros in the crossover game to get eliminated early.
Honeybaked, BT and Ohio did not even make it to the A-bracket. All three of them were 1-2 after the round robin placing 6th, 7th and 8th in their respective pools of 10, in other words bottom half of the field.
The only three Non-Ontario teams making it into the top 16 were TI, LC and Mission, finishing 7,10 and 15th in the field of 40 upon completion of the playoffs.
HB, BT and Ohio ended up in the B field, finishing 17th, 19th and 20th in the event upon completion of the playoffs.
These results suggest the latter three teams are at best on par with the midpack PW teams. Over half of the PW teams ended up in the A-Bracket.
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ToeDragTony
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Re: 2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
Sorry, not trying to p*$$ in your Cheerios, but they looked average. And again, I was suprised at the lack of production from KC on Mission.
How you hijacked my post and turned it into a comparison of TOEHL vs. PW I will never quite understand, as I never mentioned anything about the TOEHL vs. PW teams at all.
The original post dealt with prior postings of the JWHL being the up and coming league in the states vs. the TOEHL. That is certainly up for debate as the TOEHL teams looked very good (whether you choose to think so or not).
Sorry, not trying to p*$$ in your Cheerios, but they looked average. And again, I was suprised at the lack of production from KC on Mission.
How you hijacked my post and turned it into a comparison of TOEHL vs. PW I will never quite understand, as I never mentioned anything about the TOEHL vs. PW teams at all.
The original post dealt with prior postings of the JWHL being the up and coming league in the states vs. the TOEHL. That is certainly up for debate as the TOEHL teams looked very good (whether you choose to think so or not).
Re: 2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
Well Tony it is obvious you know nothing about the x's & o's of hockey. Anyone who watched the Mission games saw that KC was stifled by the new coaching staff. Has to be very difficult for the young lady. I watched a team with no direction or systems. Looked nothing like the puck possession team of last year. Last year they played in the championship game against Bluewater. This year they did not even make it to Sunday. I don't think you can blame one player on a teams failure. It is a shame when a bench wastes players like that.
Well Tony it is obvious you know nothing about the x's & o's of hockey. Anyone who watched the Mission games saw that KC was stifled by the new coaching staff. Has to be very difficult for the young lady. I watched a team with no direction or systems. Looked nothing like the puck possession team of last year. Last year they played in the championship game against Bluewater. This year they did not even make it to Sunday. I don't think you can blame one player on a teams failure. It is a shame when a bench wastes players like that.
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
Re: 2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
Not too worry about my cornflakes. Just providing a different viewpoint.
You are clearly looking into this too deeply and have no knowledge of my background. Most veteran posters are well aware of my frequent unbiased and balanced reviews from the past on team quality. You are the one who suggested Mission "was average" and HB, BT and Ohio "looked great".
I merely provided a different viewpoint based on the results from the Stoney Creek Tournament. The PW was only used as a reference point on where IMHO these teams fit in the equation. This was merely convenient as half the field was from the PW so the most effective comparator in this example. I never even mentioned the JW in the whole discussion, neither was it ever part of this thread as far as I can recall.
Peace my friend.
Not too worry about my cornflakes. Just providing a different viewpoint.
You are clearly looking into this too deeply and have no knowledge of my background. Most veteran posters are well aware of my frequent unbiased and balanced reviews from the past on team quality. You are the one who suggested Mission "was average" and HB, BT and Ohio "looked great".
I merely provided a different viewpoint based on the results from the Stoney Creek Tournament. The PW was only used as a reference point on where IMHO these teams fit in the equation. This was merely convenient as half the field was from the PW so the most effective comparator in this example. I never even mentioned the JW in the whole discussion, neither was it ever part of this thread as far as I can recall.
Peace my friend.
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Re: 2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
I thought this team looked very strong--one of the strongest in the tourney, and only trailed Toronto 2-1 into the 3rd period. Several players were extremely noticeable, including Coyne especially. I don't think the fact that she had 2 assists was attributable at all to "average" play on her part. Perhaps this team may lack some of the depth it had in the past though, with her carrying more individually on her shoulders. Opposing teams were most definitely keying on her specifically, which made it VERY difficult for her to do much on the scoresheet (and helped tire her out more as the game progressed). This may have given other players more opportunities to make a difference on the scoresheet. She got huge amounts of ice time in the Aeros game until the Aeros scored the 3rd and 4th goals...and then sat for most of the last 5 minutes.
I thought this team looked very strong--one of the strongest in the tourney, and only trailed Toronto 2-1 into the 3rd period. Several players were extremely noticeable, including Coyne especially. I don't think the fact that she had 2 assists was attributable at all to "average" play on her part. Perhaps this team may lack some of the depth it had in the past though, with her carrying more individually on her shoulders. Opposing teams were most definitely keying on her specifically, which made it VERY difficult for her to do much on the scoresheet (and helped tire her out more as the game progressed). This may have given other players more opportunities to make a difference on the scoresheet. She got huge amounts of ice time in the Aeros game until the Aeros scored the 3rd and 4th goals...and then sat for most of the last 5 minutes.
Re: 2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
There has been alot of talk about the Us team's, against the PWHL canada team's.The one question I have is what age are the girl's on the top PWHL team's I know most of the girl's playing for mission,LC, and the other's are 17 yr's or younger.Is that the same for the PWHL team's?? I could not find any ages.
There has been alot of talk about the Us team's, against the PWHL canada team's.The one question I have is what age are the girl's on the top PWHL team's I know most of the girl's playing for mission,LC, and the other's are 17 yr's or younger.Is that the same for the PWHL team's?? I could not find any ages.
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
Re: 2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
Same deal for PWHL teams. Most players on these teams are Midget aged (15-16-17). Most teams carry one or two 18 year olds.
There has been alot of talk about the Us team's, against the PWHL canada team's.The one question I have is what age are the girl's on the top PWHL team's I know most of the girl's playing for mission,LC, and the other's are 17 yr's or younger.Is that the same for the PWHL team's?? I could not find any ages.
Same deal for PWHL teams. Most players on these teams are Midget aged (15-16-17). Most teams carry one or two 18 year olds.
Re: 2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
For the record, I think Belle Tire's placement in the B pool is very misleading and did not reflect their true strength relative to many other teams in the A division--as was no doubt reflected by the fact they won that B final. In addition to coming from the "death pool", they had to face most of the strongest teams in their pool (Aeros, Bluewater, and Aurora) whereas most teams had at least one or two relatively easy games in their round robin. The Aeros did not blow them out, they beat Aurora, and had a very tight game versus Bluewater. These three PWHL teams will definitely be in the top half of their league.
For the record, I think Belle Tire's placement in the B pool is very misleading and did not reflect their true strength relative to many other teams in the A division--as was no doubt reflected by the fact they won that B final. In addition to coming from the "death pool", they had to face most of the strongest teams in their pool (Aeros, Bluewater, and Aurora) whereas most teams had at least one or two relatively easy games in their round robin. The Aeros did not blow them out, they beat Aurora, and had a very tight game versus Bluewater. These three PWHL teams will definitely be in the top half of their league.
OnMAA
Vort Doen.....Heija Heija Heija
Re: 2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
Agreed. Check my post from this morning at 10:20 which states:
"Another team that appears better than in years past is Belle Tire"
I saw them play against Aurora. It was a good game and they won that game late 2-1. Aurora, a team considered an up and coming challenger in the PW actually went 0-3 in the round robin, and ended up on the short end in the "Pool of death" effect. Pool C's strength as a group was evident as they went 8-2 in the first playoff round as a group, and 16-9 overall.
Agreed. Check my post from this morning at 10:20 which states:
"Another team that appears better than in years past is Belle Tire"
I saw them play against Aurora. It was a good game and they won that game late 2-1. Aurora, a team considered an up and coming challenger in the PW actually went 0-3 in the round robin, and ended up on the short end in the "Pool of death" effect. Pool C's strength as a group was evident as they went 8-2 in the first playoff round as a group, and 16-9 overall.
Re: 2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
I was under the assumption that the girl's could be as old as21 in the PWHL and I was just wondering the ages of the girl's on some of the top team's, could not find any answer's,if some one could point me in the right direction would be appreciated.
I was under the assumption that the girl's could be as old as21 in the PWHL and I was just wondering the ages of the girl's on some of the top team's, could not find any answer's,if some one could point me in the right direction would be appreciated.
Re: 2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
If you look at the link
http://home.cogeco.ca/~juniorsabres
then click on the rosters you see the year of birth
true midget age I believe begins 92 year . boston , hamilton, waterloo had one of the oldest teams with 10 older then 92
burlington had 9
the two cegep quebec teams of course have more because it goes to equivalent at least gr 13
toronto had one 91 ., missy 2, LC 2, illinois 2
If you look at the link
http://home.cogeco.ca/~juniorsabres
then click on the rosters you see the year of birth
true midget age I believe begins 92 year . boston , hamilton, waterloo had one of the oldest teams with 10 older then 92
burlington had 9
the two cegep quebec teams of course have more because it goes to equivalent at least gr 13
toronto had one 91 ., missy 2, LC 2, illinois 2
Gardien De But
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Re: 2009 Stoney Creek Junior Tourney
Most U.S. teams are pretty involved in the summer and the PW teams generally don't get going until around labour day. It will be interesting to see how these teams do at the Manon Rheaume tournament in Michigan - most of the top rated U.S. teams will be there as well as at least one from the PW, Aurora, a team that was very competitive considering their draw and getting stronger as Stoney progressed (some luckier bounces could very well have gone 3-0 instead of 0-3 in first round). Once most of the PWHL teams (which have had major turnover) are firing on all cylinders and have had a chance to develop their team play, it will be interesting to compare at that point.
Most U.S. teams are pretty involved in the summer and the PW teams generally don't get going until around labour day. It will be interesting to see how these teams do at the Manon Rheaume tournament in Michigan - most of the top rated U.S. teams will be there as well as at least one from the PW, Aurora, a team that was very competitive considering their draw and getting stronger as Stoney progressed (some luckier bounces could very well have gone 3-0 instead of 0-3 in first round). Once most of the PWHL teams (which have had major turnover) are firing on all cylinders and have had a chance to develop their team play, it will be interesting to compare at that point.