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2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
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jcarter7669
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Sneddon could move down Pacan, Stalberg and Roos are much quicker and so is Milo, that would give a speedier but still very skilled line. With Roos going to the 4th and Pacan staying up, would create a bit slower line and I think speed is one of the things this team lacks a little, but its nice to figure out who is going to the fourth line which will be good in their own right.
Sneddon could move down Pacan, Stalberg and Roos are much quicker and so is Milo, that would give a speedier but still very skilled line. With Roos going to the 4th and Pacan staying up, would create a bit slower line and I think speed is one of the things this team lacks a little, but its nice to figure out who is going to the fourth line which will be good in their own right.
Ogilthorpe
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
ouch, the risks of being a shot blocker on the PK, Stacey sacrifices but doesn't look like he'll be back tonight....hopefully nothing serious.
ouch, the risks of being a shot blocker on the PK, Stacey sacrifices but doesn't look like he'll be back tonight....hopefully nothing serious.
Ogilthorpe
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jcarter7669
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
He's a hockey player...few stitches and a quick breather
He's a hockey player...few stitches and a quick breather
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Crap. The one time I am actually right about something.
Curious to hear the reports from the game if anyone went.
Crap. The one time I am actually right about something.
Curious to hear the reports from the game if anyone went.Ogilthorpe
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Watched on B2, dissappointing to say the least. Let's hope they can chalk this up to their one big stinker for the year. They've always had a tough time in this building generating any energy or playing with any passion but you can't let a lifeless building be an excuse to not bring it every night. The cats really stunk in every facet of the game, defense gave up a bunch of breakaways or near breakaways. They looked lifeless, MC was aggressive to pucks and Cats weren't. Not much more to say on this one, probably will be a very quiet bus ride back. The last couple years, you've heard Sneddon use the term flush it (thankfully not a lot) and I'm sure he'll use it on this one...put this one in the past and hope never to play that uninspired. Lesson learned, you become a very average team when you don't outwork your opponent.
Watched on B2, dissappointing to say the least. Let's hope they can chalk this up to their one big stinker for the year. They've always had a tough time in this building generating any energy or playing with any passion but you can't let a lifeless building be an excuse to not bring it every night. The cats really stunk in every facet of the game, defense gave up a bunch of breakaways or near breakaways. They looked lifeless, MC was aggressive to pucks and Cats weren't. Not much more to say on this one, probably will be a very quiet bus ride back. The last couple years, you've heard Sneddon use the term flush it (thankfully not a lot) and I'm sure he'll use it on this one...put this one in the past and hope never to play that uninspired. Lesson learned, you become a very average team when you don't outwork your opponent.
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Was at the game....
Thoughts - Merrimack plays well on their small sheet. They bottled up the offense pretty well, and were not intimidated about the large UVM defense. Huge part of the game was the power play, both UVM's ineffectiveness and Merrimacks quick attack and potent finishers. Particularly troubling was how out of sorts UVM looked on their power play., especially the 2 man advantage they had for 1:40 seconds. I do not recall any quaility shots. All shots seems to be from high out, or a pass across the middle that just wasnt there.
I will give Merrimack a lot of credit, they played a great game and beat UVM in all phases of the game.
Was at the game....
Thoughts - Merrimack plays well on their small sheet. They bottled up the offense pretty well, and were not intimidated about the large UVM defense. Huge part of the game was the power play, both UVM's ineffectiveness and Merrimacks quick attack and potent finishers. Particularly troubling was how out of sorts UVM looked on their power play., especially the 2 man advantage they had for 1:40 seconds. I do not recall any quaility shots. All shots seems to be from high out, or a pass across the middle that just wasnt there.
I will give Merrimack a lot of credit, they played a great game and beat UVM in all phases of the game.
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Nice front page on uscho. Not going to help recruiting much.
ust this week I was thinking his team might be deep and experienced enough not to get shellacked like they usually do once a year by unh or bu or bc.
Then they don't show up against merrimack. Not sure what to think except that they totally embarassed t
hemselves. showing littleability heart or effort. Shame they don't have a game tonight to show the bounce back effort..
This is an early season test in terms of how they respond next weekend. They should and will fall far in the polls. Maybe the polls went to their heads this week. Mack is clearly improved but they are still a low end HE team and to get dominated is not a good sign.
Nice front page on uscho. Not going to help recruiting much.
ust this week I was thinking his team might be deep and experienced enough not to get shellacked like they usually do once a year by unh or bu or bc.
Then they don't show up against merrimack. Not sure what to think except that they totally embarassed t
hemselves. showing littleability heart or effort. Shame they don't have a game tonight to show the bounce back effort..
This is an early season test in terms of how they respond next weekend. They should and will fall far in the polls. Maybe the polls went to their heads this week. Mack is clearly improved but they are still a low end HE team and to get dominated is not a good sign.
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
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Not sure what happened below. Kind of like not sure whaty happened at lawler......
Uvm should and will fall far in the polls after that debacle and I would expect some line shake up. Probably break up the frosh
Disappointed in the veteran d not getting it done. Pp still awful. Like I said last week we need movement on pp particularly an extended 5 on 3. Pk not good. Spillane to get the call ay maine?
Any other game reports or thoughts?
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Not sure what happened below. Kind of like not sure whaty happened at lawler......
Uvm should and will fall far in the polls after that debacle and I would expect some line shake up. Probably break up the frosh
Disappointed in the veteran d not getting it done. Pp still awful. Like I said last week we need movement on pp particularly an extended 5 on 3. Pk not good. Spillane to get the call ay maine?
Any other game reports or thoughts?
jcarter7669
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Was unable to see the game, but Sneddon's quote I think probably sums it up
"Kevin Sneddon said. “They out muscled us, they out hustled us and out willed us in a lot of facets of the game and that’s probably the most disappointing part. I really can’t find a positive with the way we played tonight.”"
The droppped the ball, something that has plaqued UVM year in and year out. Playing to the level of your opponent. Yes MC is improved and a tough team, its no excuse, there is no reason the cats should lose that game. They didn't play.
A split against #1 DU and a win at BC went to their head!!
And Madore at least from the score sheet just didn't appear to be there. 3 goals on the first 9 shots is pathetic.
Was unable to see the game, but Sneddon's quote I think probably sums it up
"Kevin Sneddon said. “They out muscled us, they out hustled us and out willed us in a lot of facets of the game and that’s probably the most disappointing part. I really can’t find a positive with the way we played tonight.”"
The droppped the ball, something that has plaqued UVM year in and year out. Playing to the level of your opponent. Yes MC is improved and a tough team, its no excuse, there is no reason the cats should lose that game. They didn't play.
A split against #1 DU and a win at BC went to their head!!
And Madore at least from the score sheet just didn't appear to be there. 3 goals on the first 9 shots is pathetic.
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Madore did not play poorly.
All of the goals looked good. Great one time shots, or through a screen and on net. The break-away goal in the 2nd was a thing of beauty and Madore played it well, just a better job done by Merrimack.
It all came down to two things, as I reflect
1 - 2 man advantage in the 1st that UVM totally squandered and looked disorganized and ineffective.
2 - Post shot by Culity early in the 3rd that was sooooo close. That would have tied the score and would have changed momentum.
As said in another thread, UVM did not lose this game. Merrimack won it.
(waiting for the UML posters to "hit" our threads with their troll like comments)
Madore did not play poorly.
All of the goals looked good. Great one time shots, or through a screen and on net. The break-away goal in the 2nd was a thing of beauty and Madore played it well, just a better job done by Merrimack.
It all came down to two things, as I reflect
1 - 2 man advantage in the 1st that UVM totally squandered and looked disorganized and ineffective.
2 - Post shot by Culity early in the 3rd that was sooooo close. That would have tied the score and would have changed momentum.
As said in another thread, UVM did not lose this game. Merrimack won it.
(waiting for the UML posters to "hit" our threads with their troll like comments)
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
A score sheet seldom tells the story with goalies, if the team played as bad as Sneddon and those at the game said they did you it probably wasnt his fault. I have seen goalies get 20 save shutouts without facing any real tough shots and good goalies get let out to dry and give up 3 in 10 minutes.
Unless you can see the goals (which I have not yet)its hard to blame the goalie, also 2 of the goals were PP and the last a ENG.
A score sheet seldom tells the story with goalies, if the team played as bad as Sneddon and those at the game said they did you it probably wasnt his fault. I have seen goalies get 20 save shutouts without facing any real tough shots and good goalies get let out to dry and give up 3 in 10 minutes.
Unless you can see the goals (which I have not yet)its hard to blame the goalie, also 2 of the goals were PP and the last a ENG.
observer85
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Two wins and two losses after 4 games. Based on the competition, the "experts" were thinking Vermont could be 0-3 after Denver and BC, then 1-3 after 4 games.
So this team is at .500 instead. They played to the level of their competition against Denver and BC and I guess, MC. Since Maine is down, hopefully next week they don't play to the level of their competition and instead, rise above it.
Not sure it is time to mix up lines like someone mentioned in an earlier post, not sure it is time for a goalie change. If this happens next week (poor play, loss, etc.), well then maybe so.
Two wins and two losses after 4 games. Based on the competition, the "experts" were thinking Vermont could be 0-3 after Denver and BC, then 1-3 after 4 games.
So this team is at .500 instead. They played to the level of their competition against Denver and BC and I guess, MC. Since Maine is down, hopefully next week they don't play to the level of their competition and instead, rise above it.
Not sure it is time to mix up lines like someone mentioned in an earlier post, not sure it is time for a goalie change. If this happens next week (poor play, loss, etc.), well then maybe so.
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Sneddon's post game audio clip on the team website mentioned that they did not show up in any facet of the game, and he specifically mentioned goaltending as well.
Agree that the Cats sometimes play to the level of their competition. As an example, last year they tied PC when PC could not buy a point, lost to SLU, etc. However, it sounds like they played well BELOW their competition at Mack.
They have too much experience and depth to let this happen.
I FULLY expect to see the freshman forward line broken up next Friday. Highly doubtful he will keep things constant as they are not getting it done offensively. Also would not be surprised to see Franzon play again. Spillane in net is less likey.
I have high expectations for this team - mostly based on the experienced and capable D - but last night put a significant dent in my confidence. It's one thing to be snakebitten or have the bounces go the other way and lose a good game but to get thoroughly out hustled and out willed is worrisome.
On other topics:
Stalberg is back on the ice for the hapless Maple Leafs but not doing much. Anyone watch the games and have any observations?
Mitchell has not played yet for SJ? Anyone know what's up with that?
Sneddon's post game audio clip on the team website mentioned that they did not show up in any facet of the game, and he specifically mentioned goaltending as well.
Agree that the Cats sometimes play to the level of their competition. As an example, last year they tied PC when PC could not buy a point, lost to SLU, etc. However, it sounds like they played well BELOW their competition at Mack.
They have too much experience and depth to let this happen.
I FULLY expect to see the freshman forward line broken up next Friday. Highly doubtful he will keep things constant as they are not getting it done offensively. Also would not be surprised to see Franzon play again. Spillane in net is less likey.
I have high expectations for this team - mostly based on the experienced and capable D - but last night put a significant dent in my confidence. It's one thing to be snakebitten or have the bounces go the other way and lose a good game but to get thoroughly out hustled and out willed is worrisome.
On other topics:
Stalberg is back on the ice for the hapless Maple Leafs but not doing much. Anyone watch the games and have any observations?
Mitchell has not played yet for SJ? Anyone know what's up with that?
Ogilthorpe
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
also think Franzon will get another crack in the line-up as the defense was way off last night. MacKenzie had a hard time controlling the puck, wouldn't be surprised if he sits.
Stalberg is coming off a concussion but is playing pretty well, using his speed and controlling the puck along the boards. The problem is Toronto is extremely bad at both ends of the ice. He's been close on getting that first goal, hopefully tonight in Vancouver!
Mitchell had a setback early in pre-season with some tendonitis in I think his knee so they are wanting to come back slowly and be 1oo % before returning full-time. I am itching to see him play again after missing all of last season except for a few playoff games and playing all games in his rookie season.
also think Franzon will get another crack in the line-up as the defense was way off last night. MacKenzie had a hard time controlling the puck, wouldn't be surprised if he sits.
Stalberg is coming off a concussion but is playing pretty well, using his speed and controlling the puck along the boards. The problem is Toronto is extremely bad at both ends of the ice. He's been close on getting that first goal, hopefully tonight in Vancouver!
Mitchell had a setback early in pre-season with some tendonitis in I think his knee so they are wanting to come back slowly and be 1oo % before returning full-time. I am itching to see him play again after missing all of last season except for a few playoff games and playing all games in his rookie season.
jcarter7669
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
As mentioned Mitchell has some tendonitis in his leg. He was expected to miss 3-4 games but that has been extended as they wanted to put him on the long term DL and so it is a minimum of 2 weeks I think? Either way once the minimum time is up he is expected to return to the ice. I don't remember right of hand but it was before the end of Oct, this week some time.
As mentioned Mitchell has some tendonitis in his leg. He was expected to miss 3-4 games but that has been extended as they wanted to put him on the long term DL and so it is a minimum of 2 weeks I think? Either way once the minimum time is up he is expected to return to the ice. I don't remember right of hand but it was before the end of Oct, this week some time.
observer85
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Now that the weekend of games is complete, perhaps UVM's loss will not send them as far down in the polls as one would have thought late Friday night. I am thinking they fall to 9 or 10.
#1 Miami lost to Michigan State, #2 North Dakota split with Alaska Anchorage. Michigan State and Alaska Anchorage, like Merrimack, are unranked teams.
Denver shut out Minnesota 2 games and will probably go up in the rankings - the win against Denver on October 10th will help UVM's cause. #3 Boston University did UVM a favor and beat #5 Michigan. Below UVM in the rankings, Notre Dame (who beat Boston University) lost to Boston College (who UVM beat), Minnesota lost 2 games, Nebraska Omaha did not play. UMass-Lowell won 2 games and will probably rise from 13 to maybe 10.
This looks to be one of those seasons where, unlike last year with Boston University, there is not going to be that one dominant team. Parity in college hockey, it is a good thing.
Now that the weekend of games is complete, perhaps UVM's loss will not send them as far down in the polls as one would have thought late Friday night. I am thinking they fall to 9 or 10.
#1 Miami lost to Michigan State, #2 North Dakota split with Alaska Anchorage. Michigan State and Alaska Anchorage, like Merrimack, are unranked teams.
Denver shut out Minnesota 2 games and will probably go up in the rankings - the win against Denver on October 10th will help UVM's cause. #3 Boston University did UVM a favor and beat #5 Michigan. Below UVM in the rankings, Notre Dame (who beat Boston University) lost to Boston College (who UVM beat), Minnesota lost 2 games, Nebraska Omaha did not play. UMass-Lowell won 2 games and will probably rise from 13 to maybe 10.
This looks to be one of those seasons where, unlike last year with Boston University, there is not going to be that one dominant team. Parity in college hockey, it is a good thing.
jcarter7669
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Checking the stats up to date this morning :
Irwin tops the cats so far in points, awesome to see as I would really like to see Brayden step it up this year and so far with 6 points in 4 games it seems he has. The one concern is he is also leading in penalty minutes by a long shot. Granted he had the GMC at DU but still 23 pm in 4 games is too many. Brayden has been plagued for these hit from behind calls, he needs to really keep his nose clean because anything close is going to be called.
Checking the stats up to date this morning :
Irwin tops the cats so far in points, awesome to see as I would really like to see Brayden step it up this year and so far with 6 points in 4 games it seems he has. The one concern is he is also leading in penalty minutes by a long shot. Granted he had the GMC at DU but still 23 pm in 4 games is too many. Brayden has been plagued for these hit from behind calls, he needs to really keep his nose clean because anything close is going to be called.
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