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116th Congress: Episode 2 The Turtle Has Total Control

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Kepler said:
Sure, but you only gain over other districts' eligible voters if your district has a higher percentage of ineligible voters, so this merely reinforces the preference of people in districts with more ineligible voters to want them to count in the Census. Since Republicans tend to live in districts with a lower percentage of ineligible voters (they think so, anyway -- who knows if it's true?) they want to chop them out of the Census. That's not stupid reasoning. It's just evil and racist (as usual from them).

Am I being dumber than usual here? I still don't see why the righties forcing this through is "dumb." It's corrupt and anti-democratic. But it's pretty smart, assuming you're an obsessed xenophobe with spiders in your soul.
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I guess I used the word dumb because I assumed the opposite. That is, I assumed the more rural districts may have a higher proportion of undocumented workers, principally due to their involvement in the ag industry. But my assumption may also be faulty.
 
SJHovey said:
It's also kind of stupid. If I'm an eligible voter, I want more people who are not eligible voters included in my area. If there are a million of us and we're all eligible voters, my vote is just one in a million. But if there are a million of us and only half are eligible voters, my vote is one in 500,000.
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Yeah, but since children and non-citizen residents primarily live in or near cities, that disproportionately benefits democrats. If you can apportion based on eligible voters only, rural areas will pick up seats at the expense of cities.
 
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unofan said:
Yeah, but since children and non-citizen residents primarily live in or near cities, that disproportionately benefits democrats. If you can apportion based on eligible voters only, rural areas will pick up seats at the expense of cities.
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I still can't see how the math will work here. Say the census dictates a congressional district is 800K people (again, excluding one or two seat states). I'm Joe Conservative and I want to exclude non-citizens. Great, but you still have to draw the lines to equal the 800K people - only now you're excluding what may equal a full congressional district of its own by not including everyone. In short, if you have 5 seats based on 800K per seat, but you decided to exclude all those people, do you only write the maps to include 4 seats instead and give up one seat or do you write maps where every district has 600K people living in it instead of 800K like the rest of the country has?
 
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Let me start with a simple "thank goodness for Subaru lane assist."

Just now, driving and listening to the local talk channel that tries to be urban and liberal, one of the (geriatric) hosts must've misheard what the four targets of Mr. Trump's most recent Twit-ire are called ("The Squad") and in defending them and railing Trump miscalled them "The Squa_s".

The mystery letter is "w". :eek:

I would've been in the ditch without lane assist active. :D
 
Rover said:
I still can't see how the math will work here. Say the census dictates a congressional district is 800K people (again, excluding one or two seat states). I'm Joe Conservative and I want to exclude non-citizens. Great, but you still have to draw the lines to equal the 800K people - only now you're excluding what may equal a full congressional district of its own by not including everyone. In short, if you have 5 seats based on 800K per seat, but you decided to exclude all those people, do you only write the maps to include 4 seats instead and give up one seat or do you write maps where every district has 600K people living in it instead of 800K like the rest of the country has?
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The latter, if the GOP gets their way.
 
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Are members of Congress required to disclose money spent on polling during the course of a year? Or are the pollsters paid by other sources anyway and therefore not subject to disclosure.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Let me start with a simple "thank goodness for Subaru lane assist."

Just now, driving and listening to the local talk channel that tries to be urban and liberal, one of the (geriatric) hosts must've misheard what the four targets of Mr. Trump's most recent Twit-ire are called ("The Squad") and in defending them and railing Trump miscalled them "The Squa_s".

The mystery letter is "w". :eek:

I would've been in the ditch without lane assist active. :D
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That's... petty bad.

TBH I had no idea of the nasty connotations of that word until Dr. Mrs. clued me in a few years ago. I mean, the 1960 Olympics, right?

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SJHovey said:
I guess I used the word dumb because I assumed the opposite. That is, I assumed the more rural districts may have a higher proportion of undocumented workers, principally due to their involvement in the ag industry. But my assumption may also be faulty.
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And that's why I said "who knows" to whether they're correct -- I can see that argument. But you know Republicans: "them fancy cities are crawling with those lazy coloreds!"

This is just an extension of the rural white nationalism that makes people think having the same number of Senators for Wyoming and California is democratic. Because people in cities are "lesser" in some way. Hmm, what way could that possibly be?
 
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Senator from Kentucky...just not the one I expected to block it.
Both need to go.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
lmao
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rand Paul blocked the Senate vote on the 9/11 victim compensation fund. Ilhan Omar is a co-sponsor of that bill and voted for it in the House.<br><br>But please, tell me again how un-American Ilhan Omar is.</p>— Denizcan James (@MrFilmkritik) <a href="https://twitter.com/MrFilmkritik/status/1151557341332066310?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I mean we can’t cut Donnie’s golf trips. Gotta cut elsewhere
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
So, tell me how one Senator can block the bill? Cause if all the other Republicans are a yes then he can't. Mitch could just steamroll it through.
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I think it has something to do with accelerating a bill's passage. As in if it gets unanimous consent it moves forward immediately but if one Senator objects it goes through a more standard and longer process.
 
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Rover said:
I think it has something to do with accelerating a bill's passage. As in if it gets unanimous consent it moves forward immediately but if one Senator objects it goes through a more standard and longer process.
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Yeah, I read the article then deleted my post. Sounds like it will pass it's just Rand being a dick.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Yeah, I read the article then deleted my post. Sounds like it will pass it's just Rand being a dick.
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I had to look it up too. Basically just more attn. whoring from Rand to make himself look good to his tea party base (at least I think that's the calculation he's making). More or less the type of thing his dad would do too.

Hopefully he only has one neighbor...
 
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Maybe if we tell them they are cousins they will be naturally drawn together :D
 
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