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115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

FlagDUDE08 said:
Regardless of what you think about Alex Jones, this is really a battle about freedom of speech; about censorship.
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For clarification purposes...Isn't the tech industry violating the US Constitution's First Amendment free speech protections?

No. The First Amendment reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

That first part means the government can't pass laws limiting your right to speak, but it doesn't say anything about companies or social networks.

https://www.cnet.com/news/infowars-...speech-on-twitter-facebook-youtube-and-apple/

FlagDUDE08 said:
Clear racketeering and clear trust activity. Just like Bell, it's time to break these entities up.
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A new convert to huge government? First, government tells corporations how they must behave and if they don't do it, we break them up?
 
FlagDUDE08 said:
And why shouldn't I? Because you can't stand going to a differing view? Heed the words of Martin Niemöller. Regardless of what you think about Alex Jones, this is really a battle about freedom of speech; about censorship. You have Congresspersons using their position to get people to censor dissent. Clear racketeering and clear trust activity. Just like Bell, it's time to break these entities up.
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Like a lot of other things...you have ZERO clue about the 1st amendment.
 
Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

ScoobyDoo said:
I wouldn't be quoting him but I just heard about this on the radio. My reaction is:

Typical Lefties.
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What I mean by this is here is the green party costing the Democrats another election.
 
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St. Clown said:
Shadow-ban? Do you just go about making up ridiculous terms or do you take these terms from Dear Gay Frog Leader?
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When nothing has actually happened, you need to make up a fake new term to make it seem like something has.
 
Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

5mn_Major said:
For clarification purposes...Isn't the tech industry violating the US Constitution's First Amendment free speech protections?
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Then why is it happening in reaction to Rep. Deutch? And why is Sen. Murphy now calling for all right wing outlets, not just Infowars, to be banned? They are using their position to silence their opposition.

And the saddest part is, you see nothing wrong with this. Perhaps it's because you're not Infowars, so you don't care if they get banned. You're not FOX News nor a conservative pundit, so you don't care that they're one of the next targets, based on Senator Murphy's statements. You seem to be OK with the precedent that is being set here. Make no mistake, when they come for you, and you call for the same things that I am calling for today, there will be no one left to defend you, and you will then realize that you had a chance when it started to nip the elimination of free speech in the bud. They had a chance to squelch Hitler back in the mid-30's. They didn't, his power corrupted absolutely, and they had to go through a war and nearly half a decade of reparations to fix it. No one's saying you need to agree with Alex Jones. Heck, if you want to be completely against everything he stands for, there's nothing wrong with that. But for gosh sake, never deny the right of someone to say something, lest you set the precedent that free speech is not something desired.
 
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But yet, you're cool with Trump wanting to shut down NBC, CNN, and the WaPo.

Let's take a live look at your reaction:
<img width=400 src=https://i.imgur.com/YQFJAJ3.gif>
 
Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

Also, Alex still has all his websites (plural) that are still freely available. He's still on Twitter. He is still free to pedal his entertainment (as his lawyers admitted in his child custody case) on the internet.

All that happened was multiple private companies told him he wasnt welcome there anymore. Just as someone eloquently put it a day or two ago, "Just like those bakers who refused to make a cake for a gay couple."
 
Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

FlagDUDE08 said:
And the saddest part is, you see nothing wrong with this. Perhaps it's because you're not Infowars, so you don't care if they get banned. You're not FOX News nor a conservative pundit, so you don't care that they're one of the next targets, based on Senator Murphy's statements. You seem to be OK with the precedent that is being set here. Make no mistake, when they come for you, and you call for the same things that I am calling for today, there will be no one left to defend you, and you will then realize that you had a chance when it started to nip the elimination of free speech in the bud. They had a chance to squelch Hitler back in the mid-30's. They didn't, his power corrupted absolutely, and they had to go through a war and nearly half a decade of reparations to fix it. No one's saying you need to agree with Alex Jones. Heck, if you want to be completely against everything he stands for, there's nothing wrong with that. But for gosh sake, never deny the right of someone to say something, lest you set the precedent that free speech is not something desired.
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For starters, the reason I went to check this out was that I wasn't fully positive myself. Believe it or not, I was fully prepared to voice my concerns regarding this it was against the 1st. It was not...and so these outlets are well within their rights to have customers who they deem are appropriate.

The point is that FB, YouTube, etc have user guidelines. You break the guidelines and you get the boot. FB specifically took him down "for glorifying violence, which violates our graphic violence policy, and using dehumanizing language to describe people who are transgender, Muslims and immigrants, which violates our hate speech policies." As stated, there are plenty of conservative sources that don't break these guidelines on these networks...and I'd bet my car that sources like Fox will continue to exist on FB.
 
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And, you know what's funny, this is verbatim from InfoWars website Terms of Service:

Remember: you are a guest here. It is not censorship if you violate the rules and your post is deleted. All civilizations have rules and if you violate them you can expect to be ostracized from the tribe.
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Flaggy thinks we have the time
To listen to him whine
About nothing and everything all at once
He is one of those
Melodramatic fools
Neurotic to the bone
No doubt about it
 
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I'd respond to Flag, but I flunked my Binary class at MTU, which is why I'm not an engineer. ;)
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I'd respond to Flag, but I flunked my Binary class at MTU, which is why I'm not an engineer. ;)
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We could always try resetting him:

Longing, rusted, furnace, daybreak, seventeen, benign, nine, homecoming, one, freight car.

желание, ржавый, печь, рассвет, семнадцать, добросердечный, девять, возвращение на родину, один, грузовой вагон
 
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Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

aparch said:
But yet, you're cool with Trump wanting to shut down NBC, CNN, and the WaPo.

Let's take a live look at your reaction:
<img width=400 src=https://i.imgur.com/YQFJAJ3.gif>
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Uhhh... where did I ever say I wanted Trump to shut them down? And while we're at it, where has he wanted to shut them down? Just because they don't know what they're talking about doesn't mean they should be silenced. Freedom's a two-way street. Doesn't stop from me telling them they suck. Heck, I miss it from player introductions during the off-season. :p
 
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5mn_Major said:
For starters, the reason I went to check this out was that I wasn't fully positive myself. Believe it or not, I was fully prepared to voice my concerns regarding this it was against the 1st. It was not...and so these outlets are well within their rights to have customers who they deem are appropriate.

The point is that FB, YouTube, etc have user guidelines. You break the guidelines and you get the boot. FB specifically took him down "for glorifying violence, which violates our graphic violence policy, and using dehumanizing language to describe people who are transgender, Muslims and immigrants, which violates our hate speech policies." As stated, there are plenty of conservative sources that don't break these guidelines on these networks...and I'd bet my car that sources like Fox will continue to exist on FB.
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http://thehill.com/regulation/389021-judge-rules-trump-cant-block-users-on-twitter

Dou-ble stand-ard *clap clap clap-clap-clap*
Dou-ble stand-ard *clap clap clap-clap-clap*
 
Re: 115th Congress the final chapter: And Gerry Mander as the Speaker.

FlagDUDE08 said:
http://thehill.com/regulation/389021-judge-rules-trump-cant-block-users-on-twitter

Dou-ble stand-ard *clap clap clap-clap-clap*
Dou-ble stand-ard *clap clap clap-clap-clap*
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If the POTUS chooses to use a microblog as the form of presidential and governmental record, he cannot block the public from the record as Twitter becomes a de facto government contracting service.

Oddly enough, Twitter could ban the POTUS from its service.
 
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