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115th Congress: On Permanent Vacation

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GrinCDXX said:
Well, to be fair, it being an obvious attempt at humor and it not being funny are not mutually exclusive.
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Well it can be an attempt at humor and still sexual harrassment. The problem is some comedians or even people who watch a lot of comedy don't seem to get that there's a difference between the comedy world and the real world. Especially in this context but even with things like offensive jokes or what have you.
 
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unofan said:
Yeah, barring evidence that she's a habitual liar, it happened. ****it.

Well, don't need to worry about him running for president in 3 years.

At least we found out about it now.
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Which is another circumstance that suggests she isn't just planting a partisan lie to cause damage. The time to do that would be after the nomination.

I don't feel this often, because I don't expect much of celebs, but:

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GrinCDXX said:
Well, it's probably funny to most adolescent boys--which includes our president.
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Oh, if (who am I kidding... WHEN) Trump tweets his outrage I hope the whole shelf of sh-t falls on him.
 
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trixR4kids said:
Well it can be an attempt at humor and still sexual harrassment. The problem is some comedians or even people who watch a lot of comedy don't seem to get that there's a difference between the comedy world and the real world. Especially in this context but even with things like offensive jokes or what have you.
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No disagreement there--in fact, I've already said exactly that.
 
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trixR4kids said:
Well it can be an attempt at humor and still sexual harrassment. The problem is some comedians or even people who watch a lot of comedy don't seem to get that there's a difference between the comedy world and the real world. Especially in this context but even with things like offensive jokes or what have you.
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From everything I've heard the Comedy World is amazingly free of, well, restraint, provided you are funny. I mean... the Aristocrats! But this isn't funny, it's boorish and easy. Even the meta-meta-meta "I'm playing a guy playing a guy playing a guy..." of this is boorish and easy and something any sophomore fratboy can pull off. And the unpardonable sin in the Comedy World is to have bad game.

Franken has great game. Very few comedians have ever been more slow burn, quiet, clever and cerebral. (Louis C. K. is, oddly, one of the other ones). So this stuff is Just. So. Dumb. Even the dumbness of it is just so dumb.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
What is the threshold for individual/joint filers where there will be a tax increase.

I was watching something last night and it seemed that anyone over $70k would see an increase.

That can't be true...


Anyone know what it is?
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I think it will depend on your state and mortgage situation, among other things. If you have a big-*** mortgage and live in a state with high state taxes, you can be sure you're going to see an increase. I know I am.
 
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The Fox News site has Franken as the front-and-center story on its home page. Because they're not an arm of a political party at all.
 
Tiggsy said:
Franken has a long history of attempted humor.

Wish I understood how this was thought to be funny to anyone other than him.
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There's a segment of comedians that believe you take any laugh you can get, no matter how cheap or sophomoric. Whether it's for practice, or what, who knows. Didn't think Franken was in that crowd, but apparently he is (or was).

If this has happened 40 years ago in the age of Animal House, Airplane!, Revenge of the Nerds, etc., it'd be one thing. Sexual comedy was much more prevalent across society, for better or worse. But 2006? Really?
 
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Quelle surprise, Tiggsy only joins the fray now that it's a liberal pol accused/busted. No comments on Moore and his accusers at all, but since Franken was always a lousy comedian to him, he'll pile on.
 
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Kepler said:
Which is another circumstance that suggests she isn't just planting a partisan lie to cause damage. The time to do that would be after the nomination.

I don't feel this often, because I don't expect much of celebs, but:

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Well, I don't necessarily think Republicans would be focused on inflicting damage to a potential 2020 challenger right now so much as they would be focused on using something for damage control to change the subject from their own dumpster fire. My instinct is that there's a good amount of exaggeration, and that her politics may play a factor in that. But, I also don't think it really matters--she's not flat out lying. I'm very disappointed as well, thought he was above this.
 
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St. Clown said:
The Fox News site has Franken as the front-and-center story on its home page. Because they're not an arm of a political party at all.
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This should be news on every political site.


Of course FOX is going to go ape over this though.


Moore is covered on MSNBC pretty much around the clock right now.
 
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Kepler said:
From everything I've heard the Comedy World is amazingly free of, well, restraint, provided you are funny. I mean... the Aristocrats! But this isn't funny, it's boorish and easy. Even the meta-meta-meta "I'm playing a guy playing a guy playing a guy..." of this is boorish and easy and something any sophomore fratboy can pull off. And the unpardonable sin in the Comedy World is to have bad game.
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Well yeah exactly, no disagreement there.

The point I was trying to make is that there are people like my roommate who's watched a ton of comedy skits or what have you that are offensive and then tries to do the same thing in the real world expecting people to laugh along with it and not be offended. Like there were some women at his work I guess making those women's march hats (those pink vagina hats or whatever they're called) and then he tried to make an offensive joke calling them c*nt caps. Then he was somehow shocked when the women at work didn't find it funny and asked him to apologize. Now I can see the angle he was coming from obviously having known him for a while and it was a lame play on words and meant to be a joke but that's just an incredibly stupid thing to say in the work place, especially in the context of what was happening (clearly this is a serious cause the women are passionate about). I remember trying not to cringe/facepalm when he told me this.

Obviously what Franken did isn't funny in any context really, especially the quoted part if true.
 
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GrinCDXX said:
Well, I don't necessarily think Republicans would be focused on inflicting damage to a potential 2020 challenger right now so much as they would be focused on using something for damage control to change the subject from their own dumpster fire. My instinct is that there's a good amount of exaggeration, and that her politics may play a factor in that. But, I also don't think it really matters--she's not flat out lying. I'm very disappointed as well, thought he was above this.
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This is my feeling as well.
 
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trixR4kids said:
Well yeah exactly, no disagreement there.

The point I was trying to make is that there are people like my roommate who's watched a ton of comedy skits or what have you that are offensive and then tries to do the same thing in the real world expecting people to laugh along with it and not be offended. Like there were some women at his work I guess making those women's march hats (those pink vagina hats or whatever they're called) and then he tried to make an offensive joke calling them c*nt caps. Then he was somehow shocked when the women at work didn't find it funny and asked him to apologize. Now I can see the angle he was coming from obviously having known him for a while and it was a lame play on words and meant to be a joke but that's just an incredibly stupid thing to say in the work place, especially in the context of what was happening (clearly this is a serious cause the women are passionate about). I remember trying not to cringe/facepalm when he told me this.
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I laughed at the thought of this uncomfortable situation. :D
 
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Franken's statement:
“I certainly don’t remember the rehearsal for the skit in the same way, but I send my sincerest apologies to Leeann. As to the photo, it was clearly intended to be funny but wasn’t. I shouldn’t have done it,”
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