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115th Congress: On Permanent Vacation

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Handyman said:
Interesting. They should avoid the placeholder and nominate someone who will run. If the coming Dem wave is real the GOP has almost no shot at that seat. The MNGOP bench is very thin.
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Kurt Daudt has a megaboner for Paul Ryan. He wants to go national at some point. He is basically Paul Ryan 20 years ago. Though, his eyes are probably set on Dayton's office for now.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Can't do that from what I heard yesterday on MSNBC's 11th Hour. They said the caretaker of the seat signs a pledge to not run. Not sure if that's law or what Dayton is asking.
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I am seeing no such restriction in any research I have done.

Pioneer Press

A special election would be held in November of 2018 — the same time Minnesotans will be voting for governor and the state’s other Senate seat, held by U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar. The Dayton appointee need not run for re-election at that time. He or she could be a short-time placeholder.

The winner of the special election would serve out the remainder of Franken’s term — until January 2021 — and face re-election in November 2020, thus restoring the six-year cycle of Senate seats.
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Maybe Dayton wants that but I am pretty sure he doesnt have the power to compel them to sign away their right to run for re-election. He can MAYBE have his Lt. Governor pledge not to run in 2018 but even that would be dubious.

Sorry but I dont trust MSNBC to get anything like that correct.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
They were citing the Strib as a source IIRC
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Yeah then they are reading the story wrong. According to the Strib the Lt. Gov wont run in 2018 which is why she is taking the position. Dayton wont appoint anyone who will refuse to run in 2018. (and he has zero power to stop them) She is the caretaker and whoever runs in 2018 (if they win) will run again in 2020 for re-election.
 
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I keep seeing McCollum’s name come up, and I guess I like her, but for the rest of the state she does nothing. Her district would be a guaranteed D even without her.

I’d still rather have someone who could carry Hennipen and Ramsey with strong numbers.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I keep seeing McCollum’s name come up, and I guess I like her, but for the rest of the state she does nothing. Her district would be a guaranteed D even without her.

I’d still rather have someone who could carry Hennipen and Ramsey with strong numbers.
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Ellison's name was tossed about this morning, too. He'd bring in Mpls and St. Paul, but have a tough campaign outside the Metro.
 
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Does anyone think this "Franken, Conyers" strategy is going to work? 53% of white women voted for a ***** grabber. This gambit changes nothing.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Kurt Daudt has a megaboner for Paul Ryan. He wants to go national at some point. He is basically Paul Ryan 20 years ago. Though, his eyes are probably set on Dayton's office for now.
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Daudt, I think, is waiting to see how the Dem primary shakes out before deciding on a run for governor. If it's Coleman, I think he runs because that's an easy us vs. them campaign that he could possibly win. If it's Walz, I think he waits for a better opportunity(possibly running for the Senate seat.)

I'd really like to see Rebecca Otto pull her gubernatorial campaign and instead focus on a run for Senator.
 
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MaizeRage said:
Daudt, I think, is waiting to see how the Dem primary shakes out before deciding on a run for governor. If it's Coleman, I think he runs because that's an easy us vs. them campaign that he could possibly win. If it's Walz, I think he waits for a better opportunity(possibly running for the Senate seat.)

I'd really like to see Rebecca Otto pull her gubernatorial campaign and instead focus on a run for Senator.
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No matter what happens we can be sure the Democrats will screw it up.
 
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St. Clown said:
Ellison's name was tossed about this morning, too. He'd bring in Mpls and St. Paul, but have a tough campaign outside the Metro.
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He'd get killed outside of Minneapolis and St. Paul. Even outside the 494/694 loop he'd be a tough sell. Duluth might be the only other district that would go for him. Maybe.

He's not a classic pragmatic Minnesota DFLer. He's a Sanders-level progressive liberal. That doesn't sell well at all outside of the Cities. Names I've seen that I like:

Chris Coleman
Lori Swanson
Tim Walz
Rebecca Otto (Maize's suggestion I hadn't seen elsewhere; I like this one a LOT. She's a lot like Klobuchar.)

Names I hate:
Betsy Hodges
Keith Ellison

One thing to remember:
REMEMBER THE ‘MINNESOTA MASSACRE’
They remember the “Minnesota Massacre” of 1978. Like today, three Democrats held the offices of governor and the two U.S. Senate seats. In 1976, Sen. Walter Mondale was elected vice president with President Jimmy Carter. Gov. Wendell Anderson essentially appointed himself to fill Mondale’s vacancy. Anderson resigned as governor, knowing that Lt. Gov. Rudy Perpich would become governor and appoint Anderson, which is what happened. Then Anderson ran in the 1978 election to retain Mondale’s Senate seat.

Voters didn’t dig that maneuver. Republicans swept all three formerly Democratic seats, with Al Quie becoming governor, Rudy Boschwitz taking one Senate seat, and David Durenberger taking the other. It should be noted that while Boschwitz beat Anderson and his ill-advised play, there was a placeholder in the mix that year: Muriel Humphrey. Sen. Hubert Humphrey died in 1978. Perpich appointed his widow, Muriel, who did not run in the election. Durenberger defeated DFL nominee Bob Short in a special election for Humphrey’s seat. So in 1978, both options were employed, and neither worked.
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From the Pioneer Press.
 
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MaizeRage said:
Daudt, I think, is waiting to see how the Dem primary shakes out before deciding on a run for governor. If it's Coleman, I think he runs because that's an easy us vs. them campaign that he could possibly win. If it's Walz, I think he waits for a better opportunity(possibly running for the Senate seat.)

I'd really like to see Rebecca Otto pull her gubernatorial campaign and instead focus on a run for Senator.
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Yeah, Daudt isn't stupid. He will almost certainly take an well-planned attack on one or both of those seats. He plays well to both the morons faction and the rich faction of the GOP. He's also been on TV a lot and been a foil to Dayton which could play extremely well statewide.
 
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The Blue will stay Blue and he would win, but I would prefer he stays where he is at. I say let Walz go for it because Coleman is taking Governor.
 
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Isn't Ellison also a Muslim? That's a nonstarter with 99% of folks living outside of a major city.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Isn't Ellison also a Muslim? That's a nonstarter with 99% of folks living outside of a major city.
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Yes. And a strong one at that. He's a great candidate for MSP, but wouldn't even sniff a primary win 20 minutes outside of Uptown or Lowertown.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Yes. And a strong one at that. He's a great candidate for MSP, but wouldn't even sniff a primary win 20 minutes outside of Uptown or Lowertown.
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Yeah, I remember FReepers were sh*tting their collective Depends when he swore his Congressional oath on a copy of the Quran.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
He'd get killed outside of Minneapolis and St. Paul. Even outside the 494/694 loop he'd be a tough sell. Duluth might be the only other district that would go for him. Maybe.

He's not a classic pragmatic Minnesota DFLer. He's a Sanders-level progressive liberal. That doesn't sell well at all outside of the Cities. Names I've seen that I like:

Chris Coleman
Lori Swanson
Tim Walz
Rebecca Otto (Maize's suggestion I hadn't seen elsewhere; I like this one a LOT. She's a lot like Klobuchar.)

Names I hate:
Betsy Hodges
Keith Ellison

One thing to remember:


From the Pioneer Press.
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So Gov. Dayton cannot appoint himself? He'd have to resign and have his successor appoint him?
 
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joecct said:
So Gov. Dayton cannot appoint himself? He'd have to resign and have his successor appoint him?
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No, he can't appoint himself. 1. He's already been a Senator. 2. That's exactly what Anderson did and the net result for Minnesota was two Republican Senators and a Republican Governor.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
No, he can't appoint himself. 1. He's already been a Senator. 2. That's exactly what Anderson did and the net result for Minnesota was two Republican Senators and a Republican Governor.
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Is there somebody in DFL in the State legislature that is as PITA to the governor and he can safely remove to Washington?
 
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