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0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

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rufus said:
and how you gonna do that? the fact is, with how easy it is for anyone to get a gun in this country, these things are gonna happen. until you change that, they will keep on happening.

edit: that's a sick line of thinking? what about the thinking that anyone should be able to own any, and as many, guns as he wants, and all the ammo he has room for? that's perfectly normal?
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To be fair, it's still the sicko that pulls the trigger. That's the BIG issue. The smaller issue is how much ammo s/he has.
 
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ticapnews said:
Yeah. Sick line of thinking. It would have been better if the guy had a bigger magazine, didn't have to reload and massacred them all instead.
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He could have a fistful of smaller magazines or he could mod a smaller mag to hold more, I'm sure there is a YouTube video for it

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Brenthoven said:
To be fair, it's still the sicko that pulls the trigger. That's the BIG issue. The smaller issue is how much ammo s/he has.
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Tell the people in Waffle House.

The big issue is that there are "sickos" in every country on the planet. Gun massacres are uniquely American.
 
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ticapnews said:
Tell the people in Waffle House.

The big issue is that there are "sickos" in every country on the planet. Gun massacres are uniquely American.
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Because we don't fistfight anymore. We escalate it to the highest degree. It's on us, and our culture. :(
 
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Brenthoven said:
Because we don't fistfight anymore. We escalate it to the highest degree. It's on us, and our culture. :(
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nobody fistfights anymore, if there are other weapons available. why do you Republicans yearn for the 50's so?
 
rufus said:
you can bet if he could have got his hands on a gun, he would have. and then it would be more than just the one person dead.
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You and Priceless should go talk to her friends and family, bet you would make them feel much better.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Because we don't fistfight anymore. We escalate it to the highest degree. It's on us, and our culture. :(
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That's why Stand your ground is soo bad. You do not commit murder if you feel threatened. Therefore, the goal when you just don't know whether the other guy is armed...escalate and shoot them as soon as possible. It takes the dangerous situation that guns create and incentives you to use them as soon as there's an altercation.
 
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5mn_Major said:
That's why Stand your ground is soo bad. You do not commit murder if you feel threatened. Therefore, the goal when you just don't know whether the other guy is armed...escalate and shoot them as soon as possible. It takes the dangerous situation that guns create and incentives you to use them as soon as there's an altercation.
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What do you mean Stand Your Ground laws are bad? Why it's positively un-manlike to retreat. The worst thing in the world a man can do is to show any type of anything that anyone at all may perceive as any kind of weakness. And retreat is the height of weakness. And if someone thinks you're weak they might think, heaven forbid, that you're...... GAY????? Never mind that your own family may prefer you come home alive, you don't get arrested, and you don't bankrupt the family having to defend yourself against charges, if you back down the neighbor 4 houses down might think you like dudes, and killing someone in an argument over how loud a car stereo is the only manly thing to do.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I don’t think we need to talk about gun control or proper background checks until we exhaust all options like weaponize Waffle House employees, put a bucket of rocks in each restaurant, and make sure everyone walks in with a clear backpack.</p>— Tony Posnanski (@tonyposnanski) <a href="https://twitter.com/tonyposnanski/status/988065766300880897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
What do you mean Stand Your Ground laws are bad? Why it's positively un-manlike to retreat. The worst thing in the world a man can do is to show any type of anything that anyone at all may perceive as any kind of weakness. And retreat is the height of weakness. And if someone thinks you're weak they might think, heaven forbid, that you're...... GAY????? Never mind that your own family may prefer you come home alive, you don't get arrested, and you don't bankrupt the family having to defend yourself against charges, if you back down the neighbor 4 houses down might think you like dudes, and killing someone in an argument over how loud a car stereo is the only manly thing to do.
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WTeff are you babbling about?! Seriously. And rufus, I ain't Republican. I want no part of any party. I lean conservative, but do have liberal views. Neither of the main 2 parties show enough to me to commit to them.

I *wish* we were all mature enough to verbally have it out, obviously that's not the case. So, wish we could just duke it out, and be done with it. Nope. It's "gonna get my gun and shoot you." Or (and I think this is kinda obvious in the Waffle House case) we're so mentally effed up, we just start a-shootin'. I can't imagine a mentally balanced person, no matter how hell-bent, shows up basically nude at a greasy spoon and shoots people.
 
Brenthoven said:
To be fair, it's still the sicko that pulls the trigger. That's the BIG issue. The smaller issue is how much ammo s/he has.
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The big issue is the mentally ill (who usually buy these guns legally) can easily obtain them after a pitiful background check. It’s unlikely these nuts would know how/where to obtain a black market AR-15, so regulations would probably help.
 
So we're all armed with the facts on the Waffle House shooting kid:
- Jumped the White House fence in 2017.
- Was investigated by the FBI and the State of Illinois.
- Had his FOID card revoked by the State of Illinois, his residence.
- His old man promised investigators that the weapons confiscated by the FBI/SoI would not be given back to the kid if the old man could keep them.
- Same weapons confiscated were used in the Waffle House shooting. The old man admits giving them to his kid, against the FBI/SoI ruling; that's unlawful carry by the kid within the State of Illinois.


But yes, let's ensure that people like this kid "continue to have his second amendment rights unimpeeded."
 
Brenthoven said:
Still gonna get the gun. That's what many people still refuse to admit.
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Blaming culture when guns are part of the culture is a complete cop out.

Wishing there were still fistfights is like yearning for the days of civilized warfare where the gentry had picnics while the soldiers killed one another in open fields.
 
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