0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

[The Rube]

Of course less guns means less shootings. Can't go by raw numbers, though. Have to look at percentages for crime stats and all that jazz. There was some guy on a local radio station (KFAN, he was with Barreiro) that had the numbers that violent crime involving guns was down, despite all time highs of people with guns in MN.

I wish I could remember the guy's name, he's a regular on the show, but it was interesting to hear.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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lol. I got neg-repped (neutral rep, technically) for this comment:

You’re right and fade is right. They aren’t going anywhere.

bizarre

 

[Jimjamesak]

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Let’s hold off on gun control and talk about video games

At a subsequent news conference, Sullivan, a Republican, said he was skeptical of a pair of ideas endorsed by President Donald Trump — arming teachers with guns and raising the minimum age to buy an assault rifle to 21 from 18. He focused his comments not on guns but on violence in video games and movies, saying researchers need to study whether we're "poisoning the minds of our children."

"If you're playing 'Call of Duty' or whatever every day for 15 years as a kid, which is all about how many people you can kill, you don't think that has an impact on the way our kids are thinking?" Sullivan said.

Of course this is cherry in this article:

And he said he wants more research on the causes of school violence, though he added that he was unaware of the existence of the Dickey Amendment.

A sitting US Senator folks.

 

[The Rube]

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I played violent video games for years and years...you don't see me shooting anyone. The video game argument is a steaming pile of sh* if you ask me. The same with violent movies; hell, American Psycho and Natural Born Killers are two of my favorites of all time, and that's about as violent as you can get for cinema.

 

[MissThundercat]

I played violent video games for years and years...you don't see me shooting anyone. The video game argument is a steaming pile of sh* if you ask me. The same with violent movies; hell, American Psycho and Natural Born Killers are two of my favorites of all time, and that's about as violent as you can get for cinema.

I played Mortal Kombat and Twisted Metal. No road rage, no running around yelling "FINISH HIM!" and executing fatalities.

The "violent video games" were used as an argument after Columbine, too.

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"I am a school shooting survivor. This is the first time I’ve had hope in 25 years" <a href="https://t.co/LiR8BlAq2u">https://t.co/LiR8BlAq2u</a></p>— TIME (@TIME) <a href="https://twitter.com/TIME/status/968580278120837120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Despite laws designed to keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, a KARE 11 investigation reveals Minnesota courts too often fail to enforce them. <a href="https://t.co/AZ93vAlrqq">https://t.co/AZ93vAlrqq</a> <a href="https://t.co/w3rl19Rw7K">pic.twitter.com/w3rl19Rw7K</a></p>— KARE 11 (@kare11) <a href="https://twitter.com/kare11/status/968579417927757824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[ScoobyDoo]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Despite laws designed to keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, a KARE 11 investigation reveals Minnesota courts too often fail to enforce them. <a href="https://t.co/AZ93vAlrqq">https://t.co/AZ93vAlrqq</a> <a href="https://t.co/w3rl19Rw7K">pic.twitter.com/w3rl19Rw7K</a></p>— KARE 11 (@kare11) <a href="https://twitter.com/kare11/status/968579417927757824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Why enforce the law? What's the point?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Follow up to my post on how the President has been lying to everyone about bump stocks.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The president is WRONG on bump stocks. Banning them can ONLY be done by passing my legislation, or else it’s going to be tied up in court for years. Anyone who says they support banning bump stocks needs to support our bill. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BanBumpStocks?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BanBumpStocks</a></p>— Sen Dianne Feinstein (@SenFeinstein) <a href="https://twitter.com/SenFeinstein/status/968204376883023872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This teacher lost three of his students in the Parkland shooting. Listen to him explain why armed teachers is not the answer <a href="https://t.co/84VS5tnyrK">pic.twitter.com/84VS5tnyrK</a></p>— NowThis (@nowthisnews) <a href="https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/968325577265397760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Does anyone else have a problem with this? <a href="https://t.co/gkWSBgKEFw">pic.twitter.com/gkWSBgKEFw</a></p>— McSpocky™ (@mcspocky) <a href="https://twitter.com/mcspocky/status/968614141429608448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[5mn_Major]

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Good to see those coming out for gun control and many posters who have moved on the issue. Few here on the side of gun control 5-10 years ago. No big shock that deaths have continued to spin out of control since then.

A few points:

1. The purpose of the 2nd is to allow people to protect themselves against a domineering government - not to be used against other citizens even in the case of self defense. Mason, the father of the Constitution, was for gun control before it was even needed.

2. The data points to more guns resulting in more casualties and deaths. Its more than suspicious that the government has banned research to be smarter on the issue.

3. Limiting solutions 'what can be approved' is a cop out. Gun pervasiveness need to be reduced. Any gun with high rates of fire (or modifications of such purposes) need to be banned. And guns need to be taken off the streets. Any lesser goals will result in no change.

As we let this slide faar too long, we need drastic action. Do you think society would have moved away from smoking if we just set societal goals at 'just don't smoke more than a pack a day'?

There was some guy on a local radio station (KFAN, he was with Barreiro) that had the numbers that violent crime involving guns was down, despite all time highs of people with guns in MN.

People mess this up all the time:

The percentage of U.S. households with guns has been trending downward for years. However, gun-owning households have more firearms than they used to — 8 on average vs 4 in 1994 — so the number of guns in the U.S. has actually gone up, per an analysis of multiple polls.

https://www.axios.com/the-percentag...943-490b2051-3056-4020-ac55-0d091641d80f.html

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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Dicks sporting goods will stop selling assault rifles and not sell guns to anyone under 18.

Gun people can drown in their tears. It won’t hurt dicks. No ones rights are being infringed

 

[BassAle]

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Dicks sporting goods will stop selling assault rifles and not sell guns to anyone under 18.

Gun people can drown in their tears. It won’t hurt dicks. No ones rights are being infringed

you mean under 21

Dicks also called for a complete ban on assault style weapons, a universal database of those banned from owning firearms, and more comprehensive background checks that include all interactions with police and mental health screening

all the trumptards on Facebook are saying they'll never shop there again

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

you mean under 21

Dicks also called for a complete ban on assault style weapons, a universal database of those banned from owning firearms, and more comprehensive background checks that include all interactions with police and mental health screening

all the trumptards on Facebook are saying they'll never shop there again

Ah yes I meant 21.

 

[The Rube]

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People mess this up all the time:

The percentage of U.S. households with guns has been trending downward for years. However, gun-owning households have more firearms than they used to — 8 on average vs 4 in 1994 — so the number of guns in the U.S. has actually gone up, per an analysis of multiple polls.

https://www.axios.com/the-percentag...943-490b2051-3056-4020-ac55-0d091641d80f.html

This guy was talking specifically about MN, and IIRC it was not households, it was permits/etc, so actual individuals.

 

[Handyman]

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you mean under 21

Dicks also called for a complete ban on assault style weapons, a universal database of those banned from owning firearms, and more comprehensive background checks that include all interactions with police and mental health screening

all the trumptards on Facebook are saying they'll never shop there again

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That is quite the stand to take and is a huge middle finger to the NRA and the Gun Fellators.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Dicks sporting goods will stop selling assault rifles and not sell guns to anyone under 18.

Gun people can drown in their tears. It won’t hurt dicks. No ones rights are being infringed

I hope it works for Dick's and they have my business and support.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

I hope it works for Dick's and they have my business and support.

Yup. I might go browse and buy stuff this weekend!

 

[Drew S.]

Dicks sporting goods will stop selling assault rifles and not sell guns to anyone under 18.

Gun people can drown in their tears. It won’t hurt dicks. No ones rights are being infringed

Didn’t they do this after Newtown? I think this might be old news and they’re trying to get a little publicity out of it.