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The Cities: I could have sworn we had this thread but I guess not

Kepler said:
US cities with the most contaminated tap water:

  1. Newark
  2. Las Vegas
  3. Pittsburgh
  4. Wilmington
  5. Tulsa
  6. Bridgeport
  7. Jersey City
  8. Des Moines
  9. Houston
  10. Salt Lake City
Flint is 11th.
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The SLC valley is already a blazing hot air pollution bath. Give it another 30 years of discharging engineered data center cooling liquids and their water will be #1.

Bridgeport is an interesting one. The rest are all pretty predictable and go back to either recent hypergrowth or a dirty past (coal/oil/ag/chemicals).
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
The SLC valley is already a blazing hot air pollution bath. Give it another 30 years of discharging engineered data center cooling liquids and their water will be #1.

Bridgeport is an interesting one. The rest are all pretty predictable and go back to either recent hypergrowth or a dirty past (coal/oil/ag/chemicals).
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Though Provo is in the 10 least contaminated.

If you look at the core study, in the 100 worst there are about 30 Texas cities. It's truly impressive what 30 years of statewide Republican rule can do. I guess they calculated that lead poisoning leads to GOP votes.
 
For about 20 years I've thought the overall food scene in the Twin Cities has been underrated and well (for what it's worth) there is this.
 
As someone who has spent most of his life on the ocean coasts, my category of Middle America cities with civilization.

New Orleans

< huge gap >

Minneapolis
Austin
Chicago
Madison

< huge gap >

St. Louis (for chess)
 
My rock bottom, based on work travel because I'd never go for fun, was OKC.

STL is down there too, but the only bland sprawling hellhole that can truly give OKC a run for its money is Orlando. Even DFW at least has good bbq 5-10 minutes from the airport.
 
Chicago as much as it pains to me to say it is a mother-effing fantastic city across several metrics.

Minneapolis doesn't have the scale of architecture or food per se, but the people, the infrastructure, the museums, the parks, the fact only NYC (I believe) has more theater seats per capita than anywhere else, the diversity and music make for brilliant place. Also Pedro Pascal said it's his favorite city in the country and well he's a gold standard for humanity in Hollywood.
 
Agree with Chicago being great for food and would throw in Cleveland as a dark horse, at least in the 2010s. I know multiple people who are seriously into food who have lived all across the country who would agree with this.

Lived near this place for 5 years which was excellent.

I've been happy with most meals I have had in the Twin Cities with local guides, but have yet to have one that stands out in memory for years.
 
I think Michael Symon's celebrity has a lot to do with Cleveland's "honorable mention" food reputation in the last 20 years. Raising its profile, inspiring others, etc.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I think Michael Symon's celebrity has a lot to do with Cleveland's "honorable mention" food reputation in the last 20 years. Raising its profile, inspiring others, etc.
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Lola was excellent, Mabel's BBQ was extremely disappointing and BSpot was decent.

Greenhouse Tavern had some of the best food I have had anywhere in the country, including numerous starred restaurants. Hands down the best chicken wings and brussel sprouts I have ever had. One of the top octopus dishes (sorry my octopus teacher) and you could order an entire pig face.

Unfortunately it was run by a world class asshole in a field of world class assholes and closed down.
 
Kepler said:
Though Provo is in the 10 least contaminated.

If you look at the core study, in the 100 worst there are about 30 Texas cities. It's truly impressive what 30 years of statewide Republican rule can do. I guess they calculated that lead poisoning leads to GOP votes.
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The best part with Iowa water is that about 15 years ago the voters approved a water quality fund. The legislature has never funded it.
 
Slap Shot said:
Chicago as much as it pains to me to say it is a mother-effing fantastic city across several metrics.
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If we're purely talking food, my two homeruns are Chicago and San Diego. San Diego because Mexican (duh), but it also has world-class Italian, Japanese, and other restaurants. Other than the tacos though, it's not cheap or "affordable" to the average person.

Chicago because it has the best variety of affordable street food, esp Italian beef. It's big enough to be good at everything, but is particularly world-class for Eastern Euro food, and lacks the NYC 'tude.

I love NYC, but for every great eatery, there's 5-10 overpriced, mediocre ones within two blocks. That's the curse of being so big.

There is also incredible food in New Orleans, but its reputation gives it its share of knock-off mediocrity to be avoided as well.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
There is also incredible food in New Orleans, but its reputation gives it its share of knock-off mediocrity to be avoided as well.
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This is very true especially in the French Quarter area. There are some great places there to be sure. Ones that have been around for decades. But there are a lot of imitators that take advantage of the tourists. I've only ever been to New Orleans for business which always placed us in that area and have managed to find good food I was happy with. I found some great little hole in the wall places that served tasty meals. And I found a very tasty duck dish when I went the other way across Canal down Magazine St and happened across a French place that was very good. And not that busy.

But I have wanted to go back with friends and look into getting out into other neighborhoods where the locals would actually eat. That is where the best of the best will be.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
If we're purely talking food, my two homeruns are Chicago and San Diego. San Diego because Mexican (duh), but it also has world-class Italian, Japanese, and other restaurants. Other than the tacos though, it's not cheap or "affordable" to the average person.

Chicago because it has the best variety of affordable street food, esp Italian beef. It's big enough to be good at everything, but is particularly world-class for Eastern Euro food, and lacks the NYC 'tude.

I love NYC, but for every great eatery, there's 5-10 overpriced, mediocre ones within two blocks. That's the curse of being so big.

There is also incredible food in New Orleans, but its reputation gives it its share of knock-off mediocrity to be avoided as well.
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Definitely second San Diego as an excellent food city.
 
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