UNH- How Far West Do We Go?

Potluck said:

As we know UNH has lost Jesse Allecia to Dartmouth. Well, just take a look at what is likely a major reason:

Dartmouth is adding 13000 feet addition to Thompson and is renovating the existing 11000 structure. It's going to be a players paradise.

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Nice try, tired lines, as usual. "Sales will surely improve if we just install the XC2000 lead generation program with Rubrik Multi-tasking. Eliminates the need to speak with actual customers. Only 18 months to implement and results within 48." Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

Mike, seems like the other programs get results first, and then they get the upgrades. Using your reasoning, UNH Hockey should have witnessed improving results over the last 10 years with all of their upgrades. So what happened? No flashy story about the hockey upgrades in Foster's, or the Valley News? * Heck, the football program should be on par with North Dakota State after the money spent across the street.

* The old adage rings true - "Valley News Story on Thursday, Canadian hockey superstars by Friday.

Potluck said:

As we know UNH has lost Jesse Allecia to Dartmouth. Well, just take a look at what is likely a major reason:

Dartmouth improving hockey facilities - Valley News

HANOVER — The home of Dartmouth College’s hockey teams is undergoing a makeover that will bring upgrades for players and also promote equity between the men’s and women’s squads.

vnews.com

Dartmouth is adding 13000 feet addition to Thompson and is renovating the existing 11000 structure. It's going to be a players paradise.

BTW, Dartmouth is currently the number 1 team in the country according to the NPI.

"At ice level, additional square footage is being added to the men’s and women’s locker rooms, and team lounges will also be expanded. A renovated space for equipment will be created, along with an expanded sports medicine facilities footprint with hydrotherapy capabilities.

On the level above that, there will be a new weight room, which Harrity said will serve the hockey program and other teams that train nearby."

Good luck to Jesse!

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Enthusiastic Coach and upward trajectory came first...

Potluck said:

Great post. The problem, according to Buford and Meathead, is high scoring forwards are inherently unlikable prima donnas . Accordingly, players like Ryan Conmy have no place at UNH. High goal scorers are bad for team morale.

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Dont forget lazy...

2013hockeyfan said:

on the topic of not being able to score...

Source: @rms_hockey

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Who is the team below UNH? I do not know all the team logos.

Snively65 said:

Who is the team below UNH? I do not know all the team logos.

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Stonehill

Potluck said:

Great post. The problem, according to Buford and Meathead, is high scoring forwards are inherently unlikable prima donnas . Accordingly, players like Ryan Conmy have no place at UNH. High goal scorers are bad for team morale.

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Klinefelter you just keep making more and more up or just don't have the ability to separate different conversations. No one said high goal scorers are bad for morale.

Dan said:

Dont forget lazy...

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Stiven left being a small fish on an elite UNH team with a history of Frozen Four appearances to be a big fish on a team out in the boonies that has never won anything. Oh. …… wait ……

At what point do we cease the same tired tales about "needing the brand new, shiny object" and we will get over the hump. Just Excuses! Stop the BS!!

Want Proof? Watch the ESPN 30 For 30 about John Calipari - One and Not Done. See what a REAL coach AND motivator can do and don’t give me the "he is a cheater" line. WATCH about how he built UMass basketball. Hard work, Drive, Sell your vision, Don’t back down, Rise Above.

Calipari's success wasn’t because of some shiny new locker room or weight room. UMass played in the Curry Hicks CAGE, built in the 1940's. UNH, as in the juggernaught Univ of No Hoops squad, beat them at the Cage in 1985. Lost to them by 2 the following year at Lundholm. Calipari shows up in Amherst in 1988 - The only road we are taking here is REFUSE TO LOSE!! Not "we'll try, but if the lockers had birch veneer, UNH basketball would NEVER beat us at home."

Man up. Stop whining about what you don’t have. Go out and get What You WANT.

Dan said:

Enthusiastic Coach and upward trajectory came first...

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Ah, we're back to the chicken and egg question. Wouldn't it be fair to say that the institution and coach must share a vision and work in concert to build a program? I think so. UNH has no vision for hockey anymore let alone a will to execute a vision for success. Blaming it on Souza is silly. He's very much a symptom of the larger problem.

Whalers said:

At what point do we cease the same tired tales about "needing the brand new, shiny object" and we will get over the hump. Just Excuses! Stop the BS!!

Want Proof? Watch the ESPN 30 For 30 about John Calipari - One and Not Done. See what a REAL coach AND motivator can do and don’t give me the "he is a cheater" line. WATCH about how he built UMass basketball. Hard work, Drive, Sell your vision, Don’t back down, Rise Above.

Calipari's success wasn’t because of some shiny new locker room or weight room. UMass played in the Curry Hicks CAGE, built in the 1940's. UNH, as in the juggernaught Univ of No Hoops squad, beat them at the Cage in 1985. Lost to them by 2 the following year at Lundholm. Calipari shows up in Amherst in 1988 - The only road we are taking here is REFUSE TO LOSE!! Not "we'll try, but if the lockers had birch veneer, UNH basketball would NEVER beat us at home."

Man up. Stop whining about what you don’t have. Go out and get What You WANT.

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Oh, yes, let's try to Tony Robbins approach. All sugar and sizzle. Sorry, you're laughably wrong. Success is about substance. Calipari got UMass put on probation. UMass forfeited its only Final Four appearance. In other words, he did it by cheating. I liked Shawn Walsh but he had a similar problem. A bit too ambitious.

You do not understand organizations. Success comes from the top and trickles down. Souza is not the leader. The AD, President of UNH and Board of Trustees are the leaders.

Potluck said:

Ah, we're back to the chicken and egg question. Wouldn't it be fair to say that the institution and coach must share a vision and work in concert to build a program? I think so. UNH has no vision for hockey anymore let alone a will to execute a vision for success.

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No chit, Sherlock. Ya get what ya pay for....an unenthusiastic coach grasping at straws, lacking coaching skillsets, ad nauseum, ad nauseum, ad nausem.

Son - do us all a favor, will ya?? Shut yer gal-durned yapper and move along. AND GET THE F--K OFF MY LAWN!!!

Whalers said:

At what point do we cease the same tired tales about "needing the brand new, shiny object" and we will get over the hump. Just Excuses! Stop the BS!!

Want Proof? Watch the ESPN 30 For 30 about John Calipari - One and Not Done. See what a REAL coach AND motivator can do and don’t give me the "he is a cheater" line. WATCH about how he built UMass basketball. Hard work, Drive, Sell your vision, Don’t back down, Rise Above.

Calipari's success wasn’t because of some shiny new locker room or weight room. UMass played in the Curry Hicks CAGE, built in the 1940's. UNH, as in the juggernaught Univ of No Hoops squad, beat them at the Cage in 1985. Lost to them by 2 the following year at Lundholm. Calipari shows up in Amherst in 1988 - The only road we are taking here is REFUSE TO LOSE!! Not "we'll try, but if the lockers had birch veneer, UNH basketball would NEVER beat us at home."

Man up. Stop whining about what you don’t have. Go out and get What You WANT.

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Great post...its about culture..! Not saying you need a Jimmy V but...It goes along way when the coaches lead from the front...show up at team events...I think at the barbeque preseason is really the only time we get to rub elbows with the coaching staff. After that just a few short interviews and snippets.

The new thing is there are 'alot if new guys' and yeah that is true but they should be assimilating by now? Just get a plan and be the loudest supporter in the room. Takes getting out of your comfort zone and thats not easy for some people but it helps to form a positive culture.

And yeah...I was always for the jumbotron...ha!

norbert said:

Klinefelter you just keep making more and more up or just don't have the ability to separate different conversations. No one said high goal scorers are bad for morale.

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He's still convinced I'm in on the Conmy thing, when I'm decidedly not. Talented kid who was offered the opportunity of a lifetime. Gotta go for it.

But I vouch for the folks who have the info, because I sorta know where they're getting it from, so "Buford" is added to the "Conmy list". Genius (not)!

Potluck said:

Ah, we're back to the chicken and egg question. Wouldn't it be fair to say that the institution and coach must share a vision and work in concert to build a program? I think so. UNH has no vision for hockey anymore let alone a will to execute a vision for success. Blaming it on Souza is silly. He's very much a symptom of the larger problem.

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GrouchyUNHer said:

No chit, Sherlock. Ya get what ya pay for....an unenthusiastic coach grasping at straws, lacking coaching skillsets, ad nauseum, ad nauseum, ad nausem.

Son - do us all a favor, will ya?? Shut yer gal-durned yapper and move along. AND GET THE F--K OFF MY LAWN!!!

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potty ... you imbecilic cretin ... you do realize GUNHer is laughing AT you, and not with you, right?!?!?

BTW great to see you back on the board, GUNHer!! Give my regards to your dearest Ramona, Uncle Jacques, and the rest of the clan!!

Bring back Jacques "Rabbit" Porriveau, he was a better character than this guy.

Chuck Murray said:

potty ... you imbecilic cretin ... you do realize GUNHer is laughing AT you, and not with you, right?!?!?

BTW great to see you back on the board, GUNHer!! Give my regards to your dearest Ramona, Uncle Jacques, and the rest of the clan!!

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Oh, for the love of God and Jesus......Charlie, you're still the same long-winded gasbag you've always been!!! No wonder potty-putz can't get you outta his head!!
Keeeerist.....anyways, Ramona says hello, but she requests that you stop creepin' her FB page, ya horny bastid! And i know that I've been gone for a while....but how in God's name are SOOOOOUUUZA, Jilly-Ano, and Stewwwwwiiee still on this damn coaching staff??? DOES AD SUGARBRITCHES HAVE INCRIMINATING PHOTOS OF THESE THREE STOOGES????

AND DO ME A FAVOR CHARLIE......KEEP YOUR DAMN DOG OFF OF MY LAWN!!!

GrouchyUNHer said:

Oh, for the love of God and Jesus......Charlie, you're still the same long-winded gasbag you've always been!!! No wonder potty-putz can't get you outta his head!!
Keeeerist.....anyways, Ramona says hello, but she requests that you stop creepin' her FB page, ya horny bastid! And i know that I've been gone for a while....but how in God's name are SOOOOOUUUZA, Jilly-Ano, and Stewwwwwiiee still on this damn coaching staff??? DOES AD SUGARBRITCHES HAVE INCRIMINATING PHOTOS OF THESE THREE STOOGES????

AND DO ME A FAVOR CHARLIE......KEEP YOUR DAMN DOG OFF OF MY LAWN!!!

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Yes, you have been away awhile. Charlie is now referred to as Buford.

Potluck said:

You do not understand organizations. Success comes from the top and trickles down. Souza is not the leader. The AD, President of UNH and Board of Trustees are the leaders.

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I am not sure you understand organizations. In this instance the Org - aka Hockey Team needs to have a leader lets call him a GM. (instead of coach) That GM needs to have a vision for his business unit and a "winning" strategy. If the GM doesn't get results from the "winning" strategy, the GM gets replaced. The AD in this case is a VP or Exec VP has multiple GMs (18) running multiple businesses of different importance. The university President is the CEO of the conglomerate with a bunch of VPs/EVPs/CFO/etc.

In a big organization the CEO set a high-level strategy with high-level motivations and it is still up to each GM to have their own winning strategy and the motivate and lead their unit through whatever market conditions exist. Generally when a new GM gets a few wins, shows some promise, they can then get organizational investment. I haven't seen it all, none of us have, and I don't recall a single GM that had been failing for 7 years get big investments in there businesses, instead they get fired. As those investments are based on belief that the winning strategy will work.

Now if your completely unstated point is the UNH President needs to give a sh!t enough to put pressure on the AD to either fix the failing business unit or loose her job... well yeah we actually find something to agree on. The collapse of UNH hockey, once the revenue generating sport that significantly offset the athletic budget has somehow not got the AD in hot water. She is fairly new and the President is as well. My only hope as a fan is given just a little more time, say 16 months, it will come time to find a new coach (errr GM)

Wait let me guess the reply...

You will say something like I have never been part of leading any organization, I couldn't possibly know what I am talking about. I am just some hick that knows nothing and I am naive to the realities of the world... or something similar

Completely dismissing you have no idea who I actually am, what I actually do or why I choose to live in New Hampshire.

Potluck said:

Yes, you have been away awhile. Charlie is now referred to as Buford.

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It must suck to be the person on the outside looking in, nose pressed up against the window, all alone, totally clueless amidst the banter and subtleties ...

... wwwwooooooooooossssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh ... you d!psh!t