Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Into the Valley of Death rode the six hundred.
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The Medical Thread: We're experts on everything else; why not?
- Thread starter The Sicatoka
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SonofSouthie
Misanthrope
Make sure your Tdap vax is up todate.
FadeToBlack&Gold
No Quarter for Fascists
It feels like every other commercial is now for a new prescription monoclonal antibody infusion.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
I thought they were all Ozempic.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Worth noting the recommended seven to ten years is generally for the tetanus portion.
Pertussis wanes after about a year, maybe two.
We’re going to require people be vaccinated to see our child. MMR post 1960s or whenever they had the weak vaccine, flu, covid, TDAP. Won’t be a problem with my parents and the in-laws, but my wife’s parents are resistant.
I’m drawing a hard line. They voted for Trump, they get to take their fuckin medicine or they don’t get to see their grandchild. I know my wife is mostly on board, but it’s going to be really hard for her. I just don’t want them to murder our child.
Anyways, it would be nice to have a pertussis only vaccine more widely available. Maybe there’s no benefit but it might make some of the more resistant idiots less resistant. But probably not.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
I really think we need to ban pharmaceutical commercials. I know that’s obvious, but like, I think it needs to be moved up the priority list.
FadeToBlack&Gold
No Quarter for Fascists
Yes, it needs to be like cig ads. Something we look back on 30-50 years post-advertising ban and laugh at how we ever allowed it to carry on for so long.
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
So companies can just incentives doctors to prescribe their stuff instead of what's really out there.
I don't know that I'm ok with keeping what's available behind an actual curtain. Especially when you have name brand and generics available.
I don't know that I'm ok with keeping what's available behind an actual curtain. Especially when you have name brand and generics available.
unofan
Well-known member
No other country on earth allows pharma commercials direct to consumers, and most of them have objectively better healthcare outcomes. I think we'd be fine.
Deutsche Gopher Fan
Registered User
Ding ding ding.
Things have worked just fine in the countries I’ve lived in. Doctors do the diagnosing and treating
WisconsinWildcard
The plural of anecdote is not data
Any physician who does not know what is available from reading the literature or doing CME is incompetent, lazy, or both.
Maybe this has been explained above, but isn't this the result of a change in rules limiting or preventing pharma reps from marketing directly to doctors, creating at least the impression that providers' prescription practices could be influenced more by pharma sales agents than the patients? Now they market to the patient and direct the patient to lobby the doc.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Maybe. My only experience with Pharma reps was in Germany. I went to the ACHEMA conference there years ago. Something like 200,000-400,000 people attend. They have something like ten equivalents to the Minneapolis Convention Center and the absolute most opulent setups?
Pharma. Even the small vendors there were obviously flush with an INSANE amount of cash. Maybe a couple of the largest German vendors (Siemens, Pepperl+Fuchs, etc) had displays that rivaled the companies that made equipment for pharma.
I’ll never forget that one company had young attractive women scrubbing out one of the glass vessels there. It was one of the most transparent and vile things I had ever seen at what was advertised as a professional event. Like watching a Carls Jr ad from the 2000s.
Anyways. Fuck pharma
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
As Burd asked above though:
Didn't the idea of Pharma being able to advertise to the general public come directly as a result of Big Pharma Company telling doctors that if they write X number of scripts for Drug Y, they would get Incentive Z as a result.
That's a pretty heavy (and shady) finger weighing upon the doctor in that instance. I know not all are purely money driven, but more than a few are.
amen
Make sure to get your 10th Covid booster!
WisconsinWildcard
The plural of anecdote is not data
You can look up what your doctor gets paid by pharmaceutical companies. The number should be close to 0 in my opinion. If you look me up, I think I have under $50 which I think came from a lunch I walked into as a fellow and my name got written down.
I delete every email any pharma rep sends me. I have brought a couple to tears when they approach me at conferences when I confront them on their company's bullshit.
If a colleague goes to a pharma dinner, I ask them why they cannot afford their own dinner on their salary.
Anyway, some physicians are like me. Most will do a little interaction that is likely not super harmful, but I still recommend avoiding it. The info you get from the pharma company can be accurate, but usually has a slant or is incomplete. I just tell them to point me to the peer reviewed article and that shuts them down fairly quick.