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UNH Hockey Off Season Thread 2026

One response then back to hockey young pot-stirrer-

Yes, NH benefits from proximity to Massachusetts, however the actual trend is with migration from Massachusetts to NH, and they have been moving here steadily over the past decade. That's not what you see when one state is "failing" relative to the other- it's what you see when people perceive a better value proposition across the border. You are in the loud minority my friend...
They are also moving to Maine. How will you spin that one?

Maine and New Hampshire are the fastest-growing states in New England based on cumulative population growth in the 2020s. [1, 2]
While all six New England states have registered overall population gains this decade, the drivers of growth split sharply between the northern and southern parts of the region. [1]

The Fastest-Growing New England States
According to U.S. Census Bureau data and regional demographic reports by the Carsey School of Public Policy, the growth breakdown reveals two distinct leaders: [1, 2]

Maine: Leads the region in overall percentage population growth this decade. It experienced a notable 2.4% surge in residents in the initial years following 2020, driven heavily by remote work and pandemic-era migration. [1, 2, 3]

New Hampshire: Closely follows Maine as the second-fastest growing state by percentage, and rivals it for the largest absolute net population gain in the region. [1, 2, 3]
 
They are also moving to Maine. How will you spin that one?

Maine and New Hampshire are the fastest-growing states in New England based on cumulative population growth in the 2020s. [1, 2]
While all six New England states have registered overall population gains this decade, the drivers of growth split sharply between the northern and southern parts of the region. [1]

The Fastest-Growing New England States
According to U.S. Census Bureau data and regional demographic reports by the Carsey School of Public Policy, the growth breakdown reveals two distinct leaders: [1, 2]

Maine: Leads the region in overall percentage population growth this decade. It experienced a notable 2.4% surge in residents in the initial years following 2020, driven heavily by remote work and pandemic-era migration. [1, 2, 3]

New Hampshire: Closely follows Maine as the second-fastest growing state by percentage, and rivals it for the largest absolute net population gain in the region. [1, 2, 3]
A good chunk of its growth is either:

  • One-time pandemic relocation
  • Or ongoing international inflow replacing an aging population
I will leave it at that so as not to get political
 
A good chunk of its growth is either:

  • One-time pandemic relocation
  • Or ongoing international inflow replacing an aging population
I will leave it at that so as not to get political
The top five states people are moving to Maine from are:
  1. Massachusetts
  2. New Hampshire
  3. California
  4. Florida
  5. New York
The top five states people are moving to New Hampshire from are:

1. Massachusetts
2. Florida
3. Maine
4. California
5. New York

Interesting nuances...political, economic and quality of life all factoring in here.

More people moving from NH to Maine than Maine to NH.

Maine more popular with Californians.......NH more popular with residents of Floriduh.
 
The top five states people are moving to Maine from are:
  1. Massachusetts
  2. New Hampshire
  3. California
  4. Florida
  5. New York
The top five states people are moving to New Hampshire from are:

1. Massachusetts
2. Florida
3. Maine
4. California
5. New York

Interesting nuances...political, economic and quality of life all factoring in here.

More people moving from NH to Maine than Maine to NH.

Maine more popular with Californians.......NH more popular with residents of Floriduh.
Not sure what point you are trying to make. I was rebuffing Pot-stirrers claim that NH is Mississippi without Mass. I wonder what that makes Maine. Why don't we agree to disagree and discuss Hockey? My thought is that Barr has pressure on him this year to win (and not get swept by UNH again). I am very much looking forward to seeing Maine vs UNH at the Whit in December! :)
 
My sense is you have very little understanding of American history. As for the swastika. You posted it. I am not saying you believe what it represents. Using it in humor is using it for your benefit. You should understand that. As for the babylon bee, funny site but sometimes it goes to far. If what you say is correct, a big mistake by the Bee.
Hey Fluffer, your Spidey sense is failing you, AGAIN. Very well versed in History, but I think this helped to find your picture online. Are you going to start quoting about economic modalities, in the southern colonies or regurgitating a Gordon Wood's book? :)

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Using a Totenkopf in humor or fact is only available because the Anti-Fascist, Anti-Nazi party now has a candidate - being touted by ALL the Dem leadership - who wore one for 19 years. Ironical, (but not disqualifying) wouldn't ya say?
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Now back to summer hockey talk. Will gladly chat UNH hockey history for $ 500 Alex. Did I hit the Daily Double? :cool:
 
Not sure what point you are trying to make. I was rebuffing Pot-stirrers claim that NH is Mississippi without Mass. I wonder what that makes Maine. Why don't we agree to disagree and discuss Hockey? My thought is that Barr has pressure on him this year to win (and not get swept by UNH again). I am very much looking forward to seeing Maine vs UNH at the Whit in December! :)
Seems like both states would have less growth without MA residents moving to both states.✌🏻
 
The only reason that symbol is being lampooned by Whalers in his post is because in a case of staggering, mind-bending irony, the political party that has made its practice to accuse everyone they disagree with as a "Nazi" has just nominated a candidate with an actual "Nazi" symbol tattooed onto his chest.

Not defending Plattner or the Nazis...

The word swastika comes from Sanskrit svantike which means "good fortune" (ironically). The symbol was first used in Eurasia 7000+ years ago and you can still find it on temples (Buddhism, Hinduism).​
The Totenkopf also pre dates the Nazis and comes from Prussia under Frederick the Great (1700s).​

I first went down this particular rabbit hole after a work trip where I saw multiple temples with swastikas on them.

Yes these are now hate symbols in the US and Europe and I am not saying "get over it". More it is unfortunate that the Nazis, a bunch of Malignant Narcissists Sociopaths, corrupted symbols that had been used for hundreds of years.
 
They are also moving to Maine. How will you spin that one?

Maine and New Hampshire are the fastest-growing states in New England based on cumulative population growth in the 2020s. [1, 2]
While all six New England states have registered overall population gains this decade, the drivers of growth split sharply between the northern and southern parts of the region. [1]

The Fastest-Growing New England States
According to U.S. Census Bureau data and regional demographic reports by the Carsey School of Public Policy, the growth breakdown reveals two distinct leaders: [1, 2]

Maine: Leads the region in overall percentage population growth this decade. It experienced a notable 2.4% surge in residents in the initial years following 2020, driven heavily by remote work and pandemic-era migration. [1, 2, 3]

New Hampshire: Closely follows Maine as the second-fastest growing state by percentage, and rivals it for the largest absolute net population gain in the region. [1, 2, 3]
I think if you drill down further, we would find that more conservative types leaving MA are trending towards NH, and more liberal folks leaving MA might be tempted by the Portland ME area, with a smaller segment of the latter possibly drifting as far as Vermont, which is otherwise the destination for a fair few New Yorkers. Heck, that's how both much younger Ben & Jerry ended up in Burlington two generations ago ... ditto America's favorite commie, Bernie Sanders.

A lot of it was obviously driven by post-pandemic trends in the workplace. We've had a front row seat to the phenomenon in Effingwoods/Seacoast NH.

Nothing wrong with any of it, just folks making personal lifestyle choices ... and as the MA "Millionaire's Tax" takes hold, I think both NH & Maine will benefit.
 
The greatest economic engine New Hampshire has and has ever had is its proximity to Massachusetts. Full stop.

The greatest economic engine Massachusetts has is a number of private universities around Boston that have done a fantastic job of getting federal (and other non state) funding and spinning out start-ups around 128.

That magic engine isn't from some state policy.
 
As far as the MA-to-NH dynamic goes, I think we know exactly what NH would look like without its proximity to the Merrimack Valley. It's called Vermont.

Vermont has less than half the population of NH (as well as Maine, which I believe is about <1% smaller than NH), yet is the same size, so less density by half. Vermont is actually the either the smallest or second smallest state by population in the US nowadays (closest to Wyoming, most of which sits atop the very vulnerable and unpredictable Yellowstone National Park). An argument can probably be made that while southern NH has benefitted from proximity to MA (pointing out that on average, the Merrimack Valley communities closest to our border trend more conservative than areas closest to Boston), Vermont has not enjoyed a similar benefit from its proximity to largely long-term depressed Western MA, and drooping bigger cities to their south like Springfield MA and Hartford CT. Especially with Springfield, you can see the price extracted on the former bustling Pioneer Valley communities, and the cost of its distance from Boston.

It's a shame, about a generation or so ago, Springfield was actually a pretty vibrant smallish big city. Whatever financial focus has come out of Beacon Hill that hasn't stayed within the 495 belt, seems to have been earmarked for the extreme Metrowest 'burbs and Worcester, which is looking a lot better these days. Springfield suffers from relative distance from Boston, in a condensed Buffalo/Rochester NY way from NYC, allayed only slightly by being closer to Albany. These days, Springfield (and arguably Hartford) could be said to be the furthest eastern Rust Belt cities, as places like Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Buffalo slowly rebound.

So VT doesn't have the same allure to MA residents, except maybe the affluent ski-chalet set, as their proximity is to the wrong side of the state. Even as a potential lure to Capitol District residents (Albany), there is very little difference in governmental policy to draw normies, so they only get the Bens & Jerrys.

One has to wonder why Massachusetts hasn't pushed its state capital to Worcester or thereabouts, as a more central location, which is something most states have done in the US. Sure, Boston is huge and important to MA ... but so is NYC to New York State, and Philadelphia is to PA, and neither of them houses the state's politicians. Ditto Chicago, Miami, Seattle and LA, and I'm sure many others.

At this point, it cannot be understated that NH is enjoying a really good spell lately, and while a lot of the population booms of the late 20th century came by way of folks (like us) getting priced out of Eastern MA/Greater Boston for new homes, there is a different driver going now. There really isn't the same space between the Eastern MA and Southern NH real estate markets like there used to be. But there is a huge amount of money coming into the southern tier for commercial projects, and earlier this month a pretty decent sized tech firm (Analogic) decided to up stakes 100% and move from Peabody MA to Salem NH. Tuscan Village, followed by Woodbury Commons, are both well underway in the Route 93 corridor, Manchester is booming with downtown residential stuff and mixed use, while Portsmouth is virtually neck-and-neck with the Hanover/Lebanon axis near Dartmouth across the other side of the state for affluence.

Plans for Seacoast Landing, its distant twin at the former Steeplegate site in Concord, and the Hampton Beach Casino projects are all approved at various levels, and they'll literally add billions into an already booming economy in the coming years. UNH supporter/wannabe politician TDL just put the wheels in motion for his Key Group's McIntyre site in the heart of downtown Portsmouth. The Faro's, Lupoli's, Kamen's and DiLorenzo's of the world won't be slowing down, and with upper middle class folks being driven out of Eastern MA by their "Millionaire's Tax", there are undoubtedly lots more to follow.
 
The greatest economic engine Massachusetts has is a number of private universities around Boston that have done a fantastic job of getting federal (and other non state) funding and spinning out start-ups around 128.

That magic engine isn't from some state policy.
Bingo. And those magic beans don't usually last forever. Look at places like Buffalo and Detroit, who were once eons ahead of Boston a century or less ago.

Universities and colleges are not going to be able to sustain the same pace of growth, now that a ceiling seems to have been reached. So Boston will need to adjust and adapt. There's a lot of vacant commercial space in Downtown Boston these days, so "build it and they will come" and aggressive tax policies aren't going to accomplish anything to bail out their tax-and-spend economies, and/or halt the outflow of high earners. MA can't afford to elect pseudo-socialists like Healey and Wu for much longer without risking the future of their sagging budgets and economies.

I may not live long enough to see it, and I do hope I'm wrong, as I don't wish anyone ill will ... but at the current pace, it really is only a matter of time for MA ...
 
Passing of a legend, and a pioneer in the field of sports broadcasting ... Eddie Andelman, the "face" of the groundbreaking sports radio show, "Sports Huddle". Amazing he made it to age 89, given his diet and health, but a life well lived, no doubt ...


Never met Eddie, who was Sunday night appointment listening for my formative years, along with his "Huddle" pals Jim McCarthy (an insurance executive) and Mark Witkin (a Boston attorney), but it felt like I knew them forever. If my old-fashioned WIS stories had an inspiration, it was these guys, who would lampoon sports figures regularly with a straight face. Andelman was a BU guy, and his schtick against BC was endless, on point and hilarious. The Sullivan Family, who owned the Patriots at the time, and were his next-door business neighbors (Andelman led a group that owned the old harness racing track next to Schaefer).

Given that Andelman's group eventually sold the track and the surrounding land to Bob Kraft at around the time Kraft was buying the Patriots next door, in retrospect Eddie was probably pi$$ed that the Sullivans for not doing a better job at developing the gold mine that Kraft eventually exploited, and the track ultimately gave Kraft the necessary land to build the new (current) stadium 25 years ago. But the Sullivans were buffoons and were really easy targets.

I did once meet Witkin on a small forgettable civil case, and you would never in a million years have equated the quiet professional with the Sunday night cut-up.

It's crazy to look at where sports media was in 1969 when the Huddle started, and what it's since become. But no one cracked wise like prime Andelman. RIP
 
One has to wonder why Massachusetts hasn't pushed its state capital to Worcester or thereabouts, as a more central location
Speechless. Sorry, your statement is THAT crazy.

The greatest economic engine Massachusetts has is a number of private universities around Boston that have done a fantastic job of getting federal (and other non state) funding and spinning out start-ups around 128.

That magic engine isn't from some state policy.
Of course the state and private universities benefit from federal and state policy. You need to learn a bit about policy. Mass politicians firmly support higher education. They'd get bounced if they didn't. BTW, check the school endowments of the top 20 private colleges in Mass. They aren't going anywhere for the next 100 - 200 years. e
we would find that more conservative types leaving MA are trending towards NH, and more liberal folks leaving MA might be tempted by the Portland ME area,
Not at all. People move to NH for cheaper housing. Full stop. I have met one person in my life from Mass that commuted to NH for a job. I never met a person that moved to NH for a NH job.
aggressive tax policies aren't going to accomplish anything to bail out their tax-and-spend economies,
You don't understand taxes. Massachusetts is running at a revenue surplus. The state is pumping massive dough into transportation and education.


Look at people that live in housing with a value beyond $700K in southern NH and ask them where they work. Most work in Mass.
There's a lot of vacant commercial space in Downtown Boston these days, so "build it and they will come" and aggressive tax policies aren't going to accomplish anything to bail out their tax-and-spend economies, and/or halt the outflow of high earners.
You know nothing about Boston. Every hear of the Seaport, Huckleberry? It's a breathtaking success. It's filled with type A commercial and residential properties. The Back Bay is killing it. The Fenway is now incredibly hot. Used to be a dump. The financial district is in some distress because many type A tenants moved to Seaport. It's also been slow coming out of Covid. But we're talking about 30 blocks (at most) of the entire city. Financial district buildings are being repurposed to residential. Wait 10 years and check to see the cost of property in the financial district. Things will be very fine.

BTW, ever hear of the Boston waterfront. Read somewhere that it's popular.
 
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Passing of a legend, and a pioneer in the field of sports broadcasting ... Eddie Andelman, the "face" of the groundbreaking sports radio show, "Sports Huddle". Amazing he made it to age 89, given his diet and health, but a life well lived, no doubt ...


Never met Eddie, who was Sunday night appointment listening for my formative years, along with his "Huddle" pals Jim McCarthy (an insurance executive) and Mark Witkin (a Boston attorney), but it felt like I knew them forever. If my old-fashioned WIS stories had an inspiration, it was these guys, who would lampoon sports figures regularly with a straight face. Andelman was a BU guy, and his schtick against BC was endless, on point and hilarious. The Sullivan Family, who owned the Patriots at the time, and were his next-door business neighbors (Andelman led a group that owned the old harness racing track next to Schaefer).

Given that Andelman's group eventually sold the track and the surrounding land to Bob Kraft at around the time Kraft was buying the Patriots next door, in retrospect Eddie was probably pi$$ed that the Sullivans for not doing a better job at developing the gold mine that Kraft eventually exploited, and the track ultimately gave Kraft the necessary land to build the new (current) stadium 25 years ago. But the Sullivans were buffoons and were really easy targets.

I did once meet Witkin on a small forgettable civil case, and you would never in a million years have equated the quiet professional with the Sunday night cut-up.

It's crazy to look at where sports media was in 1969 when the Huddle started, and what it's since become. But no one cracked wise like prime Andelman. RIP
Andelman was a legend. He was my lifeline to Boston sports listening to AM radio as a kid in Central Maine. My condolences to "the fabulous Judy" and his sons. Everyone should go have a meal at the Kowloon in his memory.🙏🏻
 
Former C Alex Gagne suffered a broken leg in their game 7 loss in the AHL playoffs. Hopefully he will return before the start of the year.

With Brent Burns being 42 and needing to resign Makar might need some entry level salaries this year or next. Hopefully he gets back on the ice and has a chance to be a 5 or 6 next year
 
Andelman was a legend. He was my lifeline to Boston sports listening to AM radio as a kid in Central Maine. My condolences to "the fabulous Judy" and his sons. Everyone should go have a meal at the Kowloon in his memory.🙏🏻
I'd forgotten about "the Fabulous Judy" until I read his obit yesterday. Their kids apparently are behind the "Phantom Gourmet" program. Big step up in class and quality of food from Dad's "Hot Dog Safari". Eddie was also up front when WEEI first went to an all-sports talk format in the '90's.

Andelman also had a huge burr under his saddle about my "Fabulous Football Giants", who were New England's NFL team into the '70's because (1) they were there first, and (2) the Patriots couldn't sell out their home games to get more games on the tube and penetrate the greater New England market. I think that was another reason Eddie detested the Sullivans. But even when he was taking shots at NYG "legends" like Tucker Frederickson, even as a NYG fan, it was hard not to laugh.

Former C Alex Gagne suffered a broken leg in their game 7 loss in the AHL playoffs. Hopefully he will return before the start of the year.

With Brent Burns being 42 and needing to resign Makar might need some entry level salaries this year or next. Hopefully he gets back on the ice and has a chance to be a 5 or 6 next year
Best wishes for Alex post-injury. As to his prospects in Colorado, I think there's a better chance he's released by this time next year, or he ends up with their Coast league affiliate next season, as playing on the 3rd pairing in the AHL isn't exactly the blueprint for making the jump to The Show. Gotta think with all their firepower up front, the Avs will be looking to draft a younger D or two in the first 3 rounds later this month. Those guys will in all likelihood join the four guys with the AHL Eagles in front of Gagne on the depth chart. And now, recovering from a broken leg doesn't bode well for a "make the team out of camp" scenario.

Gagne is overperforming to be in the AHL in the first place, so kudos to him for that. Making the final step, he'll need breaks, and then to take advantage.

He's really not that different from TvR when you look at them. TvR's break was his last name, it opened some doors, and he took full advantage. Kudos!!

If Andrew Poturalski was "Andrew Kane", I'm sure he would have gotten longer looks by more NHL organizations. Sad but true ...
 
Speechless. Sorry, your statement is THAT crazy.
I figured I'd take this one separately, and it is the question as to why the capital of MA was allowed to remain in Boston. The only thing that is admittedly unrealistic is to make that change now. I agree, there's a 99.99% chance that is not gonna happen. But considering the highly ironic name of the State as the "Commonwealth of Massachusetts", it is laughable with how penurious Boston-centric politicians have left formerly thriving larger cities like New Bedford, Fall River, Springfield, Fitchburg, Holyoke and (until the last generation or so) Worcester hung out to dry to literally fend for themselves, far from the purported "Hub O' The Universe" (modesty has never been the Bostonian's strong suit lol). But while that's not my issue as a NH resident, it does make for an interesting observation as a distant neutral.

With many friends and acquaintances from the Pioneer Valley, if you think they're good with the status quo, then you're way too far from the fray, with all due respect.

Let's look at Pennsylvania ... which is also the "Commonwealth of Pennsylvania". Say what you want about Boston's history, but Philadelphia was literally the US Capital from the end of the Revolutionary War until the move to the (then literal) swamps of DC ... a story to be told there in the same vein on why DC was selected as opposed to leaving it in Philly or moving it up to NYC. Like Boston, it played a prominent role in the Revolutionary War, and it is also located at the extreme eastern edge of the state. But 200+ years ago, the visionaries of that Commonwealth settled the state Capital at centrally located Harrisburg, a city not much bigger than Concord NH. Pennsylvanians had a vision for "common wealth", while Massachusetts' parochial outlook didn't see a reason to change.

The other two "Commonwealths" are Virginia (which I'm sure you are familiar with) and Kentucky. Richmond is a pretty obvious choice in that state, both on historical and geographic reasons. In KY, Frankfort is also more centrally located than the much-bigger Louisville, which borders on Indiana.

So you have four (4) Commonwealths, and three have huge historical histories dating back to the birth of the nation ... but only one (1) of them has stuck with a non-centralized location as the seat of the state government. And again for fans of irony, the "winner" is the state which is by far the most liberal of all four.

Now let's look at New Hampshire ... with state capitals originally in Portsmouth ("Boston very lite" with a deeper harbor) and Exeter (not terribly far from the glory that is Effingwoods) ... a few years before PA moved its capital to Harrisburg, NH moved its capital to centrally located Concord.

Chicago is not the capital city of Illinois, Detroit is not the capital city of Michigan, Cleveland is not the capital city of Ohio. Neither LA nor SF are the capital of California. New Orleans is not the capital of Louisiana. Seattle and Portland are not state capitals either, despite being large coastal cities bigger than their respective state capitals. Many (actually almost all) states' lawmakers wanted to prevent all political and economic power from residing in a single metropolis, choosing instead to keep the seat of government in a more geographically central and less overwhelming location. There is one blinding exception, isn't there?

Say what you will about NH (and I'll chat with you next on the other points you raised), but the Boston politicians have been very parochial and selfish for a long time, and there is no "common wealth" in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. So if NH is starting to eat MA's lunch, I shall not shed a tear for Boston.
 
Not at all. People move to NH for cheaper housing. Full stop. I have met one person in my life from Mass that commuted to NH for a job. I never met a person that moved to NH for a NH job.
That may have been the case a generation ago, but that is no longer the case. And if your scenario was hanging on by a thread already by 2019, it's changed completely since then. There are not only a growing number of "reverse commuters" who like doing their commutes with relatively clear traffic, but now a huge number of NH folks who used to be forced to travel daily to MA don't have to do that anymore. And both sets of those examples are beneficiaries of not having to pay NH income taxes. I used to have to make a token appearance at an office in the Merrimack Valley a couple of times a month. Not any longer. And there are literally thousands like me ... plus thousands of other folks who have indeed moved to NH from MA for "quality of life" issues. That includes relatively far north locales like Littleton and the Conways. I'm not even counting the Lake Winnipesaukee crowd, which comes from literally everywhere.

You don't understand taxes. Massachusetts is running at a revenue surplus. The state is pumping massive dough into transportation and education.
MA has a current state debt of $122B, which amounts to about $17,000 per person (and yes, I know debt is not always bad) while NH has a debt of $6B which works out to about $4,000 per person on the debt load. NH operates year to year with a basically balanced budget. There is actually no "revenue surplus" for the so-called Commonwealth, as revenue shortfalls in FY 2026 are $800M and approaching $1B, and the forcast for FY 2027 is for a $3.3B structural budget gap.

Boston is running at a $70M operating budget deficit for FY 2026, with approx. one-third of that amount directly attributable to the Boston Public Schools. If they are indeed "pumping massive dough" into transit and education, that's classic tax and spend that is not sustainable when revenues are coming up short.

Look at people that live in housing with a value beyond $700K in southern NH and ask them where they work. Most work in Mass.
It's funny ... the average price of a single-family home in our area - average, not top end - is already pretty much there. Most of the folks who live with me in Effingwoods have homes worth more than that (probably us too, but I'm not selling, so value is irrelevant). There are very few (if any?) commuters left who are wasting their time to drive an hour south to sit in traffic. I know more people (3) in town who partially commute to Portland, and one (1) person who is a Route 128 commuter down south. Many are self-employed, and most others are working in state. Portsmouth/Pease, as well as UNH and a couple of the hospitals within 15 miles of here are big employers. Several work for the State in and around Concord, which is a 40 minute drive (Manch is 30 minutes to downtown, or the office parks in nearby Bedford. Analogic just dragged its 500+ employees from Route 128 to Salem NH. No one is moving from NH to MA, unless it's some college kids who want to hang out in the city for bit, enjoy the nightlife while they're young ... but by age 30, guess what? Most come back.

You know nothing about Boston. Every hear of the Seaport, Huckleberry? It's a breathtaking success. It's filled with type A commercial and residential properties. The Back Bay is killing it. The Fenway is now incredibly hot. Used to be a dump. The financial district is in some distress because many type A tenants moved to Seaport. It's also been slow coming out of Covid. But we're talking about 30 blocks (at most) of the entire city. Financial district buildings are being repurposed to residential. Wait 10 years and check to see the cost of property in the financial district. Things will be very fine.

BTW, ever hear of the Boston waterfront. Read somewhere that it's popular.
You make some points, and you miss others (and BTW I'm willing to bet you I've spent more time in and around Boston than you ever have). The Financial District is in huge distress; I know that because I used to have a satellite office on High St. and that whole area is struggling. The Seaport has cannibalized the Financial District, and it remains to be seen if landlords will get approvals to turn former commercial space into residential space. Rents in the Seaport for employees are off the charts, and until a release valve for any demand further intown develops, you're talking large scale gentrification of South Boston, the South End/Back Bay, and even frickin' East Boston. Boston is great though, it's silly to argue otherwise, but other great cities have faltered in the past when there has been a paradigm shift. Boston is absolutely not immune to that possibility - COVID was a warning shot - if they don't get out ahead of things.

On a statewide basis though ... to go back to my prior point about the state politicians, Boston's gain has come at the expense of a lot of other smaller cities, again including NB/FR etc. but also including closer cities like Brockton, Lynn, Lawrence and Lowell (the latter of which is arguably the best off of that lot). Go spend some of those transportation bucks on commuter boating from Lynn Harbor to Rowe's Wharf or nearby, maybe revive interest in a city that's almost a hundred years behind in industrial neglect, but has some awesome waterfront possibilities. Sal Lupoli has done more for Lawrence in a generation out of his own pocket than Beacon Hill pols have done since the mill jobs packed up and left town early last century.

As Boston has thrived, and communities forming its suburbs have mostly enjoyed the knock-on effect from all that ... everything outside of Route 495 and west has struggled. The trickle-down effect hasn't happened, and public policy has been largely absent. The last time the folks on the Hill and/or Boston spent any time thinking about the world beyond Newton/Waltham or thereabouts was when the forward-thinking folks of the so-called Commonwealth decided to submerge four existing small towns in Central MA to create the Quabbin Reservoir, meant to provide drinking water ... for Worcester?? Nope, for faraway Boston.

Nothing says "howdy neighbor" like a bit of eminent domain erasure of small-town MA for the benefit of the city dwellers in the capital ... something that I'm going to say would have been far less likely if the state pols were sitting in Worcester and may have known some of those unfortunate, poorly placed folks.

Anyway ... folks in MA and Boston get to make their own decisions, and folks in NH get to make ours. Borderline "millionaires" north of Boston are moving up to NH and Maine at a slow and steady due to the hostility of their politicians to fund all of their favorite marginal budget line items. And as long as they leave their politics behind them when moving to NH, I'm absolutely fine with that. And if they're still somehow attached to their MA politics, then ME and VT are lovely alternatives. And while the Berkshires are also lovely, those with money and earning power aren't following Horace Greeley's advice to "move west, young (person)" ... and maybe that's the real reason that the Boston-focused pols won't extend a lifeline to folks living in the Pioneer Valley "frontier" lol???
 
I thought this was a hockey forum; I must have taken a wrong turn.......108 days before the season starts!
Don't worry, the hockey will be coming back soon enough. Not much to discuss on topic now, is there? You are free and encouraged to bring the discussion back to college hockey, or hockey in general. We have some folks who do that. Flag and Snives to name two, but they're also entitled to vacations from this.
 
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