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Elon Musk the 21st century Edison??
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Re: Elon Musk the 21st century Edison??
He's done some good stuff. This hand-waving business? Pretty much just hand waving, as far as I'm concerned. 3-D design will never be the domain of a "layman" or "idea guy," regardless of the interface. I don't see that this will allow for a major increase in the speed that competent designers can achieve in designing parts - there are already numerous interface tools (joysticks, spaceballs, etc) that already allow the designer to interact with 3D models rapidly and intuitively.
And don't get me started on hyperloop...
He's done some good stuff. This hand-waving business? Pretty much just hand waving, as far as I'm concerned. 3-D design will never be the domain of a "layman" or "idea guy," regardless of the interface. I don't see that this will allow for a major increase in the speed that competent designers can achieve in designing parts - there are already numerous interface tools (joysticks, spaceballs, etc) that already allow the designer to interact with 3D models rapidly and intuitively.
And don't get me started on hyperloop...
Re: Elon Musk the 21st century Edison??
Good call. We could be watching a genius for the times...in the making.
Good call. We could be watching a genius for the times...in the making.
Spaceballs?!?! I loved that movie!,
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Deutsche Gopher Fan
Registered User
Bahahahaha Joe, when hasn’t he been a loser
St. Clown
Ideas Posted are Likely Not My Own
Give me 14 pipe cleaners and 3 rolls of duct tape, and I’ll have it running as bad as new.
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
Making a crapload of money on others’ ideas? Hmm…
No wait, Edison was a supporter of women’s suffrage. There’s differences.
No wait, Edison was a supporter of women’s suffrage. There’s differences.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
White supremacists of a feather flock together.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Hey, I also wanted to believe because of his focus on making humanity multi-planet. I still think that is right. All our eggs are in perilous shape right now.
Musk is a fuckwit, fine. But we still need to FTL and split, if for no other reason than to leave the DOGE bros and MAGAts and Cross Cultists to die here in the sewer they made.
Musk is a fuckwit, fine. But we still need to FTL and split, if for no other reason than to leave the DOGE bros and MAGAts and Cross Cultists to die here in the sewer they made.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
That will never work. Read A City On Mars. The entire concept is literal BS.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Musk's concepts are trash, but the idea of colonizing space is not at all.
The distance between habitable worlds is a blessing. To get to the technology level to make the jump we will need to weed out the beast from our nature. We aren't even close yet. But consider: we have been doing serious and methodical science only since about 1600. We have come a very long way in a very short time.
Humanity contains multitudes, and among each lot of 100 randomly selected ass clowns there is at least 1 person with a brain and a soul, and another 9 worth talking to and working with. A 10% hit rate for humans out of animals gives us upwards of a billion worldwide. That's a lot of FTE.
We can learn to protect ourselves from the Morlocks. They are addicted to their iPacifiers, their drugs, their perpetual adolesence, their yay/boo politics, and their consumerism. Let them chase their tails and destroy each other while we reach the stars.
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
We are saying the same thing. On the other hand, our feats are impossible until shortly before they are fact.
From the Wright Brothers' first flight to the Moon Landing was 65 years and 8 months (December 17, 1903 to July 20, 1969). Less than one lifetime. Sophia Loren was still (kind of) hot at that age. When we set our minds to something, and actually get off our fat asses, we accomplish things.
I did a very cursory analysis (it's what I do for a living - can't help it) of what it would cost to put a single, small bulldozer on the moon (I think it was 20,000 lbs). I couldn't find it just now, but I recall that it was well north of $100M - for just the transportation costs for just one bulldozer.
A viable colony on mars (i.e. with enough people to breed future generations of martians without genetic issues) would consume the GDP of the earth for the next 3 decades - maybe more.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
I mean Edison stole some of his most famous work and was considered a fraud so it works!
Humanity will die on this rock, Musk knew it then and he certainly knows it now. That is why the Tech Bro/Edge Lords are all buying bunkers and pushing for Armageddon. They think they can create a new world when this one dies like they live in some B grade sci fi flick.
Colonizing space is not happening...certainly not in time to save humanity from Mother Nature. Maybe if we had spent the past 50 years really putting effort into it we might be at step 1...but we aren't even close. We aren't even close to being able to put a man on Mars let alone colonizing space. I am not sure I trust NASA to put people back on the moon at this point.
Humanity will die on this rock, Musk knew it then and he certainly knows it now. That is why the Tech Bro/Edge Lords are all buying bunkers and pushing for Armageddon. They think they can create a new world when this one dies like they live in some B grade sci fi flick.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
If there is even one failure of an effort to colonize...not even a death but just an engine failure or an Apollo 13 successful failure...it would like bankrupt the whole operation.
Interstellar got some things right (people turning on science and The Earth going down the tubes) but beyond that space travel aint saving us.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Yeah, the current $/$ is insane, but I suspect like solar their will be breakthroughs in technology that cause it drop to a uhhh more “economical” (lacking a better term, because it will never be cheap without Heisenberg Uncertainty Compensators).
It’s the one nice thing about commercial competition in space flight.
I have doubts we can put anything more than a permanent science outpost on mars within the next hundred years. The distances are just too great even with advances in tech. Plus, putting atmospheric and solar radiation concerns aside, the surface has a relatively high perchlorate concentration which is good and bad. It’s quite toxic to most life and is a pretty strong oxidizer. This would limit the choice of metals should any moisture come into contact with it. Think airlocks.
Anyways, we should continue to pursue this because along the way we will find new technologies that are hugely beneficial to to terrestrial life. Miniaturization being one of the prime examples from the Apollo program.