I think that you are correct, Dan, that Grasso scored a lot of his 20 goals his first year, maybe 12, on the PP. but, he played on the all frosh third line with Liam Blackburn (9 g) and BvR (5 g), which was more productive than the second line of Nazarian, Vela, and Eiserman with 5 goals each. The first line was TyK (24 g), Salvaggio (23 g), and McNickulas (13 g), which was also the #1 PP unit with Grasso. The fourth line, composed of a mix with Miller, Hill, Fregona, Cegaku, and Sacco, scored only 7 goals total.How about Patrick Grasso as a FR power play specialist?
I believe he picked up most of his goals as the fourth F on the PP that season, did he see his regular shifts on the fourth line…?
I think Pat Foley came close one year ... whether that was on 3rd or 4th line duty, I will leave to your judgment, kind sir!I think that you are correct, Dan, that Grasso scored a lot of his 20 goals his first year, maybe 12, on the PP. but, he played on the all frosh third line with Liam Blackburn (9 g) and BvR (5 g), which was more productive than the second line of Nazarian, Vela, and Eiserman with 5 goals each. The first line was TyK (24 g), Salvaggio (23 g), and McNickulas (13 g), which was also the #1 PP unit with Grasso. The fourth line, composed of a mix with Miller, Hill, Fregona, Cegaku, and Sacco, scored only 7 goals total.
And that leads me to admit that my trivia question was somewhat disingenuous as it would be seemingly impossible for a fourth liner on any UNH team to score double digit goals. And yet, we had a couple who came close. Who were they? Hint: need to go back to our hay days. How I long for those times.
Bingo! Patrick Foley scored 8 goals twice (2001/02 and 2002/03) from the fourth line, and I believe that he was also team caption his senior year in 2002/03. Foley’s fourth line-mates were usually Justin Atkins, Preston Callander, Nathan Martz, and/or the complicated Eddie Caron in 2001/02 and Andrew Leach and Tyler Scott in 2002/03. I also recall Umile rolling them out against the opposition’s top line on many occasions.I think Pat Foley came close one year ... whether that was on 3rd or 4th line duty, I will leave to your judgment, kind sir!![]()
Jim Abbott.Bingo! Patrick Foley scored 8 goals twice (2001/02 and 2002/03) from the fourth line, and I believe that he was also team caption his senior year in 2002/03. Foley’s fourth line-mates were usually Justin Atkins, Preston Callander, Nathan Martz, and/or the complicated Eddie Caron in 2001/02 and Andrew Leach and Tyler Scott in 2002/03. I also recall Umile rolling them out against the opposition’s top line on many occasions.
So, who was the other UNH fourth liner that came close to scoring double-digit goals in a season?
Jim Abbott scored 10 goals as a sophomore in 2000/01 and 12 goals as a senior in 2002/2003, but I do not think he played on the fourth line much if at all in either of those seasons. In the 2002/03 season, the aforementioned Pat Foley scored 8 goals from the fourth line that included Tyler Scott and Andrew Leach most games. During the 2000/01 season, I believe that Abbott played the right side of both the second and third lines with various combinations of Matt Swain (Sr), Josh Prudden (So), Nathan Martz (So), Corey Joe Ficek (Sr), and Steve Saviano (Fr). The first line, of course, was usually Darren Haydar, Colin Hemingway, and Lanny Gare. The fourth line was mostly Johnny Rogers (Sr), Jeff Haydar (transferred from Wilfred Laurier to play his senior year with his brother), and Dave Busch (Jr), who scored 9 goals and may have been captain that year and the next as a senior. So, Dave Busch was the other fourth liner that I had in mind along with Pat Foley as having come closest to scoring double-digit goals from the fourth line. But I would be interested to learn of other worthy past UNH fourth liners with high goal scoring productivity.Jim Abbott.
Thanks for doing this, Sniv's. It is a very cool walk down memory lane!Jim Abbott scored 10 goals as a sophomore in 2000/01 and 12 goals as a senior in 2002/2003, but I do not think he played on the fourth line much if at all in either of those seasons. In the 2002/03 season, the aforementioned Pat Foley scored 8 goals from the fourth line that included Tyler Scott and Andrew Leach most games. During the 2000/01 season, I believe that Abbott played the right side of both the second and third lines with various combinations of Matt Swain (Sr), Josh Prudden (So), Nathan Martz (So), Corey Joe Ficek (Sr), and Steve Saviano (Fr). The first line, of course, was usually Darren Haydar, Colin Hemingway, and Lanny Gare. The fourth line was mostly Johnny Rogers (Sr), Jeff Haydar (transferred from Wilfred Laurier to play his senior year with his brother), and Dave Busch (Jr), who scored 9 goals and may have been captain that year and the next as a senior. So, Dave Busch was the other fourth liner that I had in mind along with Pat Foley as having come closest to scoring double-digit goals from the fourth line. But I would be interested to learn of other worthy past UNH fourth liners with high goal scoring productivity.
I was a huge fan of David Busch back in the day, Snives. I remember even when he was a freshman, scrapping for ice time on the fourth line, not dressing in some of the early season games, but becoming a regular by season's end in '99 ... he was always playing a solid all-around game. His attacking zone play came to the forefront gradually over his final 3 seasons, as a goal scorer first, and then later on as a playmaker. McCloskey seemed to have an endless stream of Canadian recruits back in those days, and for every Haydar, Hemingway or Gare, there was a depth guy like Busch, Callander and Aikins. Crazy fun teams.Jim Abbott scored 10 goals as a sophomore in 2000/01 and 12 goals as a senior in 2002/2003, but I do not think he played on the fourth line much if at all in either of those seasons. In the 2002/03 season, the aforementioned Pat Foley scored 8 goals from the fourth line that included Tyler Scott and Andrew Leach most games. During the 2000/01 season, I believe that Abbott played the right side of both the second and third lines with various combinations of Matt Swain (Sr), Josh Prudden (So), Nathan Martz (So), Corey Joe Ficek (Sr), and Steve Saviano (Fr). The first line, of course, was usually Darren Haydar, Colin Hemingway, and Lanny Gare. The fourth line was mostly Johnny Rogers (Sr), Jeff Haydar (transferred from Wilfred Laurier to play his senior year with his brother), and Dave Busch (Jr), who scored 9 goals and may have been captain that year and the next as a senior. So, Dave Busch was the other fourth liner that I had in mind along with Pat Foley as having come closest to scoring double-digit goals from the fourth line. But I would be interested to learn of other worthy past UNH fourth liners with high goal scoring productivity.
Good follow up on Busch and Foley, Chuck. Both came as close as one can to being double-digit-goal-scoring fourth liners at UNH. What a contrast between those times and today, eh?I was a huge fan of David Busch back in the day, Snives. I remember even when he was a freshman, scrapping for ice time on the fourth line, not dressing in some of the early season games, but becoming a regular by season's end in '99 ... he was always playing a solid all-around game. His attacking zone play came to the forefront gradually over his final 3 seasons, as a goal scorer first, and then later on as a playmaker. McCloskey seemed to have an endless stream of Canadian recruits back in those days, and for every Haydar, Hemingway or Gare, there was a depth guy like Busch, Callander and Aikins. Crazy fun teams.
As far as Busch and the captaincy, I don't think he was ever wearing the "C" as captain, though. In his final season, I think it was Haydar (also a senior, and a Hobey Hat Trick finalist in St. Paul) wearing the "C", and I'm pretty sure Foley (as a redshirt soph) was already on an "A" after missing the previous season with what I recall was a knee injury? I can't rule out Busch having worn another "A" during his senior season, but that seems unlikely. Foley would follow that up with two years carrying the "C" in 2002/2003 and 2003/2004, as the most "captained" player in UNH Hockey history.
Those guys are both in their mid-40's now ... Foley tried his hand for seven years as an NCAA D-1 assistant coach (he was MS7 before MS7 was MS7), and left coaching after the 2014 season to take a job with the Boston Police Department. His last year of coaching (Northeastern) was MS7's first year at UConn with Luce, after coaching two seasons before that at Brown. Coach Umile's "long goodbye" plan was hatched one summer after Foley left coaching, and I've often wondered if things might have turned out differently if Foley had hung around with Jim Madigan and Jerry Keefe for another year. I don't recall him being pushed out - NU had a decent year in Foley's final year behind the bench - and Umile was always effusive in his praise of Foley as his player and his captain(s).
Had Foley played it out another season, he'd have had twice as much coaching experience (8 years vs. 4 years) than Souza had when Blue Skies forced Umile to crawl slowly down the plank. He'd also spent that time at Harvard and Northeastern, as opposed to Brown and UConn, and worked for better coaches at his programs than MS7 did at his first two stops. If Foley was still in that mix in summer 2015, it would have been a safer (and more justifiable?) choice to go with Foley instead of Souza. Would Foley have agreed to wait the three years? Would Blue Skies have pushed Coach Umile out more quickly if he had a more experienced alum option available like Foley?? Of course, who knows whether UNH Hockey would have fared any differently, for better or for worse???
Returning to the subject of David Busch ... after graduating UNH as magna cum laude, he caught on with Liberty Mutual on the Seacoast for a few years, then moved further up into the private sector before first venturing into finance and a C-suite position in Stamford CT, before advancing to the big leagues out in the Silicon Valley of CA, where he still is nowadays 10 years later. Three UNH contemporaries, all having gone down very different paths in their lives ...
Yes Busch was certainly fun to watch and in many ways imbodies the true spirit of the student athletes. His career had a few side steps. Can’t remember which year, perhaps, freshmen, he slammed into boards and messed up his leg and missed a few games. Then down at PC he was hit in the wrist by the puck and missed several games. I remember seeing him hold the wrist as he left the ice.I was a huge fan of David Busch back in the day, Snives. I remember even when he was a freshman, scrapping for ice time on the fourth line, not dressing in some of the early season games, but becoming a regular by season's end in '99 ... he was always playing a solid all-around game. His attacking zone play came to the forefront gradually over his final 3 seasons, as a goal scorer first, and then later on as a playmaker. McCloskey seemed to have an endless stream of Canadian recruits back in those days, and for every Haydar, Hemingway or Gare, there was a depth guy like Busch, Callander and Aikins. Crazy fun teams.
As far as Busch and the captaincy, I don't think he was ever wearing the "C" as captain, though. In his final season, I think it was Haydar (also a senior, and a Hobey Hat Trick finalist in St. Paul) wearing the "C", and I'm pretty sure Foley (as a redshirt soph) was already on an "A" after missing the previous season with what I recall was a knee injury? I can't rule out Busch having worn another "A" during his senior season, but that seems unlikely. Foley would follow that up with two years carrying the "C" in 2002/2003 and 2003/2004, as the most "captained" player in UNH Hockey history.
Those guys are both in their mid-40's now ... Foley tried his hand for seven years as an NCAA D-1 assistant coach (he was MS7 before MS7 was MS7), and left coaching after the 2014 season to take a job with the Boston Police Department. His last year of coaching (Northeastern) was MS7's first year at UConn with Luce, after coaching two seasons before that at Brown. Coach Umile's "long goodbye" plan was hatched one summer after Foley left coaching, and I've often wondered if things might have turned out differently if Foley had hung around with Jim Madigan and Jerry Keefe for another year. I don't recall him being pushed out - NU had a decent year in Foley's final year behind the bench - and Umile was always effusive in his praise of Foley as his player and his captain(s).
Had Foley played it out another season, he'd have had twice as much coaching experience (8 years vs. 4 years) than Souza had when Blue Skies forced Umile to crawl slowly down the plank. He'd also spent that time at Harvard and Northeastern, as opposed to Brown and UConn, and worked for better coaches at his programs than MS7 did at his first two stops. If Foley was still in that mix in summer 2015, it would have been a safer (and more justifiable?) choice to go with Foley instead of Souza. Would Foley have agreed to wait the three years? Would Blue Skies have pushed Coach Umile out more quickly if he had a more experienced alum option available like Foley?? Of course, who knows whether UNH Hockey would have fared any differently, for better or for worse???
Returning to the subject of David Busch ... after graduating UNH as magna cum laude, he caught on with Liberty Mutual on the Seacoast for a few years, then moved further up into the private sector before first venturing into finance and a C-suite position in Stamford CT, before advancing to the big leagues out in the Silicon Valley of CA, where he still is nowadays 10 years later. Three UNH contemporaries, all having gone down very different paths in their lives ...
Thought someone might care, as UNH fans maybe we were college hockey fans as well, and may have been interested. Apparently you are not. It's gone... carry on figuring out the life and times of MS7. Reading many of your posts, I can clearly understand why you are the one to question it! I'll continue to read your ignorant comments and laugh. Enjoy the rest of your miserable life.Since you referenced insanity first, can you tell me why this is on the UNH thread?
Wow even before the STH bbq! Def will do both UVM games glad they are in the late Fall..oops they are home games. Will not travel to Lansing...
Wow, traveling to East Lansing (plane flight?, ka-Ching, ka-Ching!) for two against the No. 2 PWR team last season. I see no upside for the Spartans but a huge opportunity for our Cats if they can pull off a split. We have not had many opportunities the past decade to play BiG10 teams. Worth giving up the second game hosting the Q Bobcats for the LIU Sharks. However, some lost PWR opportunities with four extra HEA games against Mac, PC, Flagship, and Yukon. Overall, looks like a good SOS, which could optimize our PWR if we can win a few upsets along the way.
Back to Bentley I see..might have to check that one out..Wow, traveling to East Lansing (plane flight?, ka-Ching, ka-Ching!) for two against the No. 2 PWR team last season. I see no upside for the Spartans but a huge opportunity for our Cats if they can pull off a split. We have not had many opportunities the past decade to play BiG10 teams. Worth giving up the second game hosting the Q Bobcats for the LIU Sharks. However, some lost PWR opportunities with four extra HEA games against Mac, PC, Flagship, and Yukon. Overall, looks like a good SOS, which could optimize our PWR if we can win a few upsets along the way.
Bentley lost a LOT of their goal scoring to graduation at the end of last season, and even more important the Falcons lost their primary goalie Connor Hasley who transferred to Penn State for his senior year after almost upending the BC Eagles in the Manchvegas NCAA regional semifinals. The Bentley Arena is a fine hockey venue and the parking is free if you do not mind walking about 100 meters.Back to Bentley I see..might have to check that one out..
You erased your post because it literally made no sense. Thats why I commented on it. Settle down, FrancisThought someone might care, as UNH fans maybe we were college hockey fans as well, and may have been interested. Apparently you are not. It's gone... carry on figuring out the life and times of MS7. Reading many of your posts, I can clearly understand why you are the one to question it! I'll continue to read your ignorant comments and laugh. Enjoy the rest of your miserable life.
Buford, as usual, has exquisite timing. BU just announced that Jay Pandolfo signed a long term extension. In all fairness, stupidity is a full time affliction; therefore, everything Buford writes can be disproved instantly irrespective of timing.... but ... but ... but this can't be true?!?!? Why, just last week, potty told me in this very thread that "BU is a wealthy school and hockey is its flagship sport" ... so how in the world of Jack Parker can this be happening to them??? This only happens to UNH, he said?!?!? Say it ain't so, potty?!?!?!?!?
Or maybe ... just maybe, of course ... potty doesn't know Jack Squat, and this is just the latest chapter in his perpetual losing streak as a would-be D-1 visionary??
Yeah, let's just stick with that then. Dum(b)-dum(b)-dum(b)![]()
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