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UNH 2024/2025 Goldberg Edition

TheGrouchyCat said:
This isn't a glancing shot, but a testament to how loaded those teams of the late 90s/early 00s really were.

Conmy can join the pantheon of great UNH players when he makes All American or even all Hockey East Team.

Did you ever see those teams play? Ever watch Krog or Haydar play? How about Saviano or Hemmingway? Mowers or Gare?

Year after year UNH brought the talent to Durham and they performed. There is nothing in Conmy's game to suggest he's a future All American or 50 point scorer.
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For those that didn't see those teams, imagine UNH skating, passing, scoring, defending, goal keeping on par with what BC put forth in SNHUrena this weekend. Yeah 'cats did all that.
 
JB said:
Still waiting for 1 example, in the last 25 years, of hockey facilities new or upgraded that were not fully or majority funded by donations at public universities.

NOTE: tons of things are funded by getting lots of small donations from poor, middle and upper middle class people.




And this is the reason Souza should be evangelizing his program every place he can and...

wait for it....

fund raising to upgrade his team facilities.
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Elwood, it's been done repeatedly on here. You just can't read well. Lets take a good UNH comp. Same league. ULowell. Take a look at UVM. There's more but, you know, you'll just forget.
 
Darius said:
For those that didn't see those teams, imagine UNH skating, passing, scoring, defending, goal keeping on par with what BC put forth in SNHUrena this weekend. Yeah 'cats did all that.
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On Chicklets, Whitney talks about how scared he'd be coming up to Durham to play because the talent (and fans) were intimidating.

Hard to believe, UNH is a cupcake team now.
 
Darius said:
Liam Blackburn syndrome. Put them with a few similar skill, effort players and see what happens!
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I think Conmy has this problem. I think he would be a different player, on and off the ice, with different talent around him.

How does Chad Onufrechuk or Corey-Joe Ficek look on these teams? Or to use better known names Jay Shipulski or John Sadowski? A combination of those guys made up the second line of an excellent team. They wouldn't look as good without the talent around them.

Or what does the series 26, 25, 65, 40 have to do with this talent around you question?
 
JB said:
I think Conmy has this problem. I think he would be a different player, on and off the ice, with different talent around him.

How does Chad Onufrechuk or Corey-Joe Ficek look on these teams? Or to use better known names Jay Shipulski or John Sadowski? A combination of those guys made up the second line of an excellent team. They wouldn't look as good without the talent around them.

Or what does the series 26, 25, 65, 40 have to do with this talent around you question?
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If that is the case, why did he choose UNH to be a big fish in a small pond with mid level talent?

So, he could stand out in a mediocre team?
 
JB said:
I think Conmy has this problem. I think he would be a different player, on and off the ice, with different talent around him.

How does Chad Onufrechuk or Corey-Joe Ficek look on these teams? Or to use better known names Jay Shipulski or John Sadowski? A combination of those guys made up the second line of an excellent team. They wouldn't look as good without the talent around them.

Or what does the series 26, 25, 65, 40 have to do with this talent around you question?
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Lots different skating with Haydar and Krog than on the "S" Line
 
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TheGrouchyCat

I think he has a MAJOR attitude problem based on his (very) limited public interaction with fans and snarky comments made to kids looking for nothing more than a fist bump or autograph.
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Skipping fist bumps and "limited interactions with fans" now equates to a "MAJOR" attitude problem? Sounds like he maybe denied your fist bump or autograph?
TheGrouchyCat said:
Putting that aside, his game stands out because he is a skilled player on an underperforming team. He has three basic moves which surpised opponents his frosh year, but were expected and countered this season.
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Figured him out such that he increased his production (both in conference and out) on a much less competitive team...
 
2013hockeyfan said:
Skipping fist bumps and "limited interactions with fans" now equates to a "MAJOR" attitude problem? Sounds like he maybe denied your fist bump or autograph?

Figured him out such that he increased his production (both in conference and out) on a much less competitive team...
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I could care less about autographs or fist bumps, and haven't since the early 80s. But, kids and their parents do. 99% of UNH players go above and beyond with their interactions with fans. He clearly doesn't.

Sharing any other insights into attitude issues wouldn't be appropriate in a public forum and would compromise the sources who trusted me enough to share.

So, you're comparing him to the smartest kid on the short bus. Got it.

The best players want to play on the best teams, unless they just want to pad their stats and increase their production. Speaks volumes.
 
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TheGrouchyCat said:
So, you're comparing him to the smartest kid on the short bus. Got it.
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Hardly. You said he was "figured out" trying to discern what that meant supported by something other than the "pro scouts and sources" that you speak of frequently.

Sharing any other insights into attitude issues wouldn't be appropriate in a public forum
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But perfectly appropriate for you to refer to vaguely and imply they are coming from well informed sources? Got it. That makes sense.
 
Playing ability is one thing to discuss, as it is publicly discussed on countless boards and scouting forums.

Character issues, personality traits and attitude aren't things that should be discussed publicly. Many of us old timers have broad networks in the hockey community. Stories and first hand accounts from coaches, scouts, former players, current players and staff aren't uncommon. Most of the time, it's best to take things with a grain of salt, but when a variation of the same story presents itself time and time again, you begin to pay attention.

I bring up the fan interaction because I've seen it first hand at public team events and have had other long term fans/STH share similar observations and anecdotes.
 
Chuck Murray said:
It's been somewhat oddly silent around UNH Hockey these last couple of weeks, other than all the rampant complaining and speculation going on around here. Only Babbage in the portal to date, as I understand it? Again, seems odd. Almost feels like the calm before the storm ... at the very least, one would hope/expect MS7 and his guys would be burning up the lines of communication to maximize this year's portal experience ...
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This is what happens when you don’t have the bottom of the barrel (AIC or Alaska Fairbanks) or talent that need to move.

I’ve asked and no changes word on the street if portal entries. The NoDAk entries are interesting but I’m guessing a BC/Minn or a location of that caliber. I’d sell half this roster for the line from ND
 
Potluck said:
Elwood, it's been done repeatedly on here. You just can't read well. Lets take a good UNH comp. Same league. ULowell. Take a look at UVM. There's more but, you know, you'll just forget.
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Great lets use Umass Lowell to start

BUILT
- 1998 (not the last 25 years - Potluck can't read or reason but that is OK), was built with funding from City, University and Commonwealth (OK public funding - good), with the goal of revitalizing Lowell (oops, not built as a primary hockey facility for a college team) and owned and operated by the City (oops again) until 2010. Yes UML skated there but the Lock Monsters started playing there in 1998 when it opened too. Which is why the University didn't buy it for $1 until the minor league team(s) left town. So if you understand the economics is entirely different with the minor league team playing 40 games in the same building, owned by the City of Lowell. Yes, clearly this is an apples to apples comparison, to an on campus collegiate arena.

RENOVATION
- "UMass Lowell has spent more than $5 million to renovate the arena since its acquisition. LED "ribbon" boards were installed in the winter of 2010. A new high-definition video scoreboard and sound system were installed during the summer 2010. A new club seating area was built in conjunction with a new upscale bar. In the summer of 2011, new ice-making equipment was installed, followed by new luxury boxes and press box in 2012." Wikipedia

Great public funding again and in the last 25 years, congrats something arguably relevant, at first for you. But wait this looks like the same "commitment" UNH has made with the rink shrink (nonsense), new boards & glass, new ice-making equipment, new audio, new lighting, new connection for press and tv, hvac system, etc.

These two lists are pretty similar and are both generously called renovations. Seems more like maintenance.

If you want to call all this renovations than I think you have pointed out UNH has the same "commitment" as UML in this respect. Does this now mean we can say the coach has to go? Or are we still stuck it is all the lack of commitment, the facility and state funding as the only way?

JB:
- Umass-Lowell opens $5M upgrade for all athletics including Hockey in 2021 after Lowell has a run of great years including 3 LT, 5 NCAA trips and one to the Frozen 4 (philanthropic gift)
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The only real student athletic amenities change (renovation) I can find at UML was privately funded. Always fun to quote yourself.

I know you poopooed this as for the basketball team. Honestly, I just pulled it from an article that UML put out that included Hockey. If the hockey players are banned, special access cards for basketball only, then I think UML has some "splaining" to do. Either way the only real renovation for student athletic amenities was privately funded.

Apples to apple Potluck. Details matter.
 
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