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Business, Economics, and Taxes: Capitalism. Yay? >=(

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The Sicatoka said:
WaPo went with " ... difficult for even the most sophisticated hackers to fake ... "

And NYT (buried in here; their investigators also authenticated the emails) believes the emails are real also.
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Asked and answered, counselor.

The vast majority of the data - and most of the nearly 129,000 emails it contained - could not be verified by either of the two security experts who reviewed the data for The Post. Neither found clear evidence of tampering in their examinations, but some of the records that might have helped verify contents were not available for analysis, they said.
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Neither expert reported finding evidence that individual emails or other files had been manipulated by hackers, but neither was able to rule out that possibility.
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You gotta up your troll game. Right now you're just a sad and pathetic loser.
 
Wasn't there a Star Trek episode where they planted a fake data chip on someone and then blew up his ship, damaging the chip thereby making it seem legitimate because any errors would be attributable to the explosion rather than forgery?

This seems remarkably similar...
 
Question on the fiduciary responsibility of Twitter's board. Could they have rejected this offer if they believed the value of Twitter was really $30/share?
Actually, back up, how does this even work now? Do shareholders vote?
 
THought about buying Twitter since it's trading at discount still. I don't think it's worth it. The price has a hard ceiling of $54.20 and if you're only getting $2 premium, that's a 4-5% risk of the deal not going through. That seems very low. All downside risk.

Edit: This makes sense. You should be gauging this against treasuries. Assuming this takes 6 months to close, you're measuring the risk and potential reward against 6-month or 1-year treasuries. If they are going to get you a guaranteed 5% in the time it takes to close, then it obviously doesn't make sense. I thought I read that I Bonds are going to hit guaranteed rates nearing that (annualized) number. So unless you're getting shares at a discount to inflation of some risk valuation, it's not worth it.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
THought about buying Twitter since it's trading at discount still. I don't think it's worth it. The price has a hard ceiling of $54.20 and if you're only getting $2 premium, that's a 4-5% risk of the deal not going through. That seems very low. All downside risk.

Edit: This makes sense. You should be gauging this against treasuries. Assuming this takes 6 months to close, you're measuring the risk and potential reward against 6-month or 1-year treasuries. If they are going to get you a guaranteed 5% in the time it takes to close, then it obviously doesn't make sense. I thought I read that I Bonds are going to hit guaranteed rates nearing that (annualized) number. So unless you're getting shares at a discount to inflation of some risk valuation, it's not worth it.
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The only ones who are in a good place on this are folks who bought "long" before April 1. If you bought after that dx has the position summed up well. And if you bought on margin in that April window you're razor thin.
 
The independent variable is when you think this deal will close. If it you think it will close at the end of the week, then $51.7 is an amazing price. If you think it's going to close in 12 months, you're only earning 4.7% annualized on your investment. Minus any risk (that the deal won't go through) that you want to price in.

So really, there's still value no matter what here, it's just what you think will happen between now and the date he takes control.

i think...
 
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If it you think it will close at the end of the week, then $51.7 is an amazing price. If you think it's going to close in 12 months, you're only earning 4.7% annualized on your investment.
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Buy: 51.7
Sell: 54.8
That's 6% and then subtract trade fees. Under 6%.

In a world of 8+% inflation.
 
A block of Tesla shares worth nearly $422 million was sold at 4 PM today. Another block worth $100M was sold at 12:39 PM.

Edit: Total block trades today were worth $1B
 
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I thought I read that I Bonds are going to hit guaranteed rates nearing that (annualized) number. So unless you're getting shares at a discount to inflation of some risk valuation, it's not worth it.
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Should be north of 9% for the next 6 months. Although the 10k annual limit certainly limits the advantage you can take/does not scale to the millions/billions being thrown around in the twitter deal.
 
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Should be north of 9% for the next 6 months. Although the 10k annual limit certainly limits the advantage you can take/does not scale to the millions/billions being thrown around in the twitter deal.
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Yeah, I thought I had read 9% somewhere after April's sales close but couldn't remember where I read that. Glad I wasn't insane.
I think we'll be doing that for sure.
 
https://twitter.com/caraesten/status/1518625274899812353?s=21&t=xjMFnXvdJLmgSBbUiQYy2w

holy crap, I totally forgot about the employees (insert jokes here)

while this person isn't right about the timing, it's going to be traded until the deal goes through and he takes ownership. So those RSUs can be exercised and sold until then. But after, I suspect there are going to be a lot of changes.

Anyways, for anyone who hasn't sold their share and held onto them, they're all going to be forced to sell this year if they're unlucky. Anyone who has held onto large sums is going to get ass fucked on taxes next year.
 
rufus said:
In any event, explain to me what nasty things the "confirmed, not faked" emails say.
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Do you really need to quote the troll? We blocked his lies for a reason.

It is always interesting though that we never hear about what is actually on the laptop just that it exists. I'm glad WaPo confirmed that at one time Hunter had a laptop...what's next CNN tells us he has a cellphone? He at one time drove a car?

in any event though please stop quoting the fuckwit. Maybe we will get lucky and he will go back to NaziSports.com where they find him smart and witty. (a low bar considering who is in that fanbase)
 
dxmnkd316 said:
https://twitter.com/caraesten/status...JLmgSBbUiQYy2w

holy crap, I totally forgot about the employees (insert jokes here)

while this person isn't right about the timing, it's going to be traded until the deal goes through and he takes ownership. So those RSUs can be exercised and sold until then. But after, I suspect there are going to be a lot of changes.

Anyways, for anyone who hasn't sold their share and held onto them, they're all going to be forced to sell this year if they're unlucky. Anyone who has held onto large sums is going to get *** fucked on taxes next year.
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Easy way to get rid of employees without laying them off.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
https://twitter.com/caraesten/status/1518625274899812353?s=21&t=xjMFnXvdJLmgSBbUiQYy2w

holy crap, I totally forgot about the employees (insert jokes here)

while this person isn't right about the timing, it's going to be traded until the deal goes through and he takes ownership. So those RSUs can be exercised and sold until then. But after, I suspect there are going to be a lot of changes.

Anyways, for anyone who hasn't sold their share and held onto them, they're all going to be forced to sell this year if they're unlucky. Anyone who has held onto large sums is going to get *** fucked on taxes next year.
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Half compensation is stocks? I guess The Simpsons wasn’t too far off.

https://comb.io/pg2Ohj
 
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