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College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.

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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
The Rose Bowl has been played outside of California before.
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And I do honestly think that California is relieved that they don't have to worry about this game. Hundreds of people from outside of the state would be coming in, from a community who has not really done a great job preventing COVID spread. (and by that, I mean college football in general- not the specific 4 teams that may be showing up)
 
dxmnkd316 said:
A game advertised as the rose bowl has been played outside of California.
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Advertised as...

Played as...

Counted as...

Included in the history of...

What's more, is that the other Rose Bowl game played outside of California was moved for almost identical reasons (due to restrictions on crowd size allowed).

I know Minnesota fans don't really understand what the Rose Bowl is all about (considering most of their fans were probably not alive the last time the Gophers were in the Rose Bowl), but this game is the Rose Bowl.

Also, congrats to Alabama and Notre Dame for reaching the Rose Bowl. Alabama now has 3.5x the Rose Bowl appearances (7) of Minnesota (2), and if they win they will have 5x the Rose Bowl wins of Minnesota...who has 1. Notre Dame matches Minnesota's two Rose Bowl appearances, and will look for their second victory in the Rose Bowl...which would be double Minnesota's total.
 
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Big 10:

"We are not playing football this season"

"Actually, we've changed our minds"

"You have to play 6 games to qualify for Champ game"

Actually, we've changed our minds"

"We have a 21 day safety protocol for our athletes"

"Actually, we've changed our minds"
 
French Rage said:
That means that the final game played at the Rose Bowl this season was Stanford beating UCLA last night, which means Stanford is technically the Rose Bowl champion if you really think about it.

....anyone?
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Sounds as strong of a claim as anyone else.

The new game should be the Rose Bowl presented by Cotton, the Fabric of our Lives. That would be quite appropriate.
 
French Rage said:
Yeah isn't it essentially the Cotton Bowl now? Or is the other cotton bowl still happening?

Is there a red-colored fabric they could call it?
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Cotton Bowl = Oklahoma v. Florida

Orange Bowl = Texas A&M v. North Carolina

Fiesta Bowl = Oregon v. Iowa State

Peach Bowl = Cincinnati v. Georgia

Rose Bowl = Alabama v. Notre Dame

Sugar Bowl = Clemson v. Ohio State
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
Eh, they’ll still be in.

It’ll be Bama, Clemson, OSU, ND.

In a better world it would be those four teams with byes and we would be gearing up for the following next weekend:
12 Ball St vs 5 A&M
11 UAB vs 6 Cincy
10 Oregon vs 7 Oklahoma
9 San Jose St vs 8 Coastal
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In a better world there would be a 10-game max RS, and an 8-team playoff. But in a better world no sports would have been played in 2020.
 
French Rage said:
That means that the final game played at the Rose Bowl this season was Stanford beating UCLA last night, which means Stanford is technically the Rose Bowl champion if you really think about it.

....anyone?
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The last Rose Bowl was played in 2001. Nebraska nullified the Rose Bowl and since then it's just been the Relocated Astro Blue Bonnet Bowl Not As Yet Sponsored by Bad Boy Mowers.
 
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Kepler said:
The last Rose Bowl was played in 2001. Nebraska nullified the Rose Bowl and since then it's just been the Relocated Astro Blue Bonnet Bowl Not As Yet Sponsored by Bad Boy Mowers.
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The only true competition was ostrich races. Football has cheapened the entire tournament.
 
French Rage said:
The only true competition was ostrich races.
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Underrated running game but not much up top.

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I'm not sure why this surprised me, but if Ohio State wins the national championship, it will be only the sixth national championship for the B1G in the "big 4" college sports that the Power 5 conferences compete in (Football, MBB, WBB, Baseball) since 1990. (FB - Ohio State (2002, 2014) and Michigan (1997 - shared); MBB - Michigan State (2000); and WBB - Purdue (1999)).

How does that compare with the other Power 5 conferences?


SEC: 39 National Titles (FB - Alabama (1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017), Florida (1996, 2006, 2008), Tennessee (1998), LSU (2003, 2007, 2019), and Auburn (2010); MBB - Arkansas (1994), Kentucky (1996, 1998, 2012), and Florida (2006, 2007); WBB - Tennessee (1991, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2007, 2008) and USC (2017); Baseball - Georgia (1990), LSU (1991, 1993, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2009), USC (2010, 2011), Vanderbilt (2014, 2019), and Florida (2017))

ACC: 20 National Titles (FB - Florida State (1993, 1999, 2013) and Clemson (2016, 2018); MBB - Duke (1991, 1992, 2001, 2010, 2015), North Carolina (1993, 2005, 2009, 2017), Maryland (2002), and Virginia (2019); WBB - North Carolina (1994), Maryland (2006), and Notre Dame (2018); Baseball - Virginia (2015))

Big 12: 15 National Titles (FB - Colorado (1990 - shared), Nebraska (1994, 1995, 1997 - shared), Oklahoma (2000), and Texas (2005); MBB - Kansas (2008); WBB - Texas Tech (1993), Baylor (2005, 2012, 2019), and Texas A&M (2011); Baseball - Oklahoma (1994) and Texas (2002, 2005))

Pac-12: 13 National Titles (FB - Washington (1991 - shared) and USC (2003, 2004); MBB - UCLA (1995) and Arizona (1997); WBB - Stanford (1990, 1992); Baseball - USC (1998), Oregon State (2006, 2007, 2018), Arizona (2012), UCLA (2013))
 
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Baseball isn’t a great comparison. It’s one of the big 3 of men’s sports nationally, but inside of the conference it’s usually been at least the fourth sport at most schools. Outside of the last 5-10 years when teams started to finally invest some in baseball, the Big Ten was essentially a mid-major conference. Even now I don’t know if I would consider it a power conference of baseball, but at least there’s a team that can compete to get to Super Regionals/CWS each year.

Half the conference has been putting “third sport” resources into hockey and the other half wrestling. That money is for baseball in the SEC and Pac 12, and a lot of the Big 12.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
Baseball isn’t a great comparison. It’s one of the big 3 of men’s sports nationally, but inside of the conference it’s usually been at least the fourth sport at most schools. Outside of the last 5-10 years when teams started to finally invest some in baseball, the Big Ten was essentially a mid-major conference. Even now I don’t know if I would consider it a power conference of baseball, but at least there’s a team that can compete to get to Super Regionals/CWS each year.

Half the conference has been putting “third sport” resources into hockey and the other half wrestling. That money is for baseball in the SEC and Pac 12, and a lot of the Big 12.
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Id even put women's volleyball at 3rd tier for a decent chunk of the Big 10. Nebraska, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Penn State are perennial powers, and the others have their moments.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
Baseball isn’t a great comparison. It’s one of the big 3 of men’s sports nationally, but inside of the conference it’s usually been at least the fourth sport at most schools. Outside of the last 5-10 years when teams started to finally invest some in baseball, the Big Ten was essentially a mid-major conference. Even now I don’t know if I would consider it a power conference of baseball, but at least there’s a team that can compete to get to Super Regionals/CWS each year.

Half the conference has been putting “third sport” resources into hockey and the other half wrestling. That money is for baseball in the SEC and Pac 12, and a lot of the Big 12.
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Well, you could eliminate Baseball, and it would still be pretty sad that the B1G only has 5 national titles combined in Football, Men's Basketball, and Women's Basketball in the last 30 years. The other conferences also largely tower over the B1G, as follows:

SEC: 27 National Titles
ACC: 19 National Titles
Big 12: 12 National Titles
Pac 12: 7 National Titles

Another way to look at it is there have been 87 national champions in those 3 sports in the last 30 years. The B1G accounts for only 5.7% of those titles...the fewest of any of the Power 5 conferences.
 
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