College Football 19-20: Where We Kinda Want Clemson As Champion.

[Handyman]

Rumor is they are worried about liability if anyone gets sick during the season. If that is what they discussed at their meeting they might as well cancel now waiting will only make things worse.

 

[dxmnkd316]

As they should be. Even if healthy 18-yos have a 0.1% CFR, that’s 1-2 deaths among the 1,700 football players in the big ten alone. We know BMI is a fairly good predictor of bad outcomes. Now you have something like a third of roster spots filled by down linemen. That 1-2 starts to balloon quickly.

Now multiply those numbers by 20 to get a picture of just D-1A football. This is a bomb waiting to go off.

 

[RaceBoarder]

I'm looking forward to the resulting temper tantrums on Twitter this week....

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Pat Forde probably talked to someone in the Big Ten.

Reports are coming out that the Big Ten is ready to cancel football entirely this year.

All fall sports I believe

 

[Handyman]

Yeah ESPN is saying the Big Ten is ready to push to Spring but were testing the waters with the other conferences. Players in the South (like Trevor Lawrence) want to play and have taken to Twitter to say so. Their points are solid but they ignore reality in that they assume the players will act correctly on campus and be safer as such than they would be at home. In theory I can buy that but every piece of evidence shows people do what they want they dont give a crap about safety which is why we havent even ended the first wave yet.

I think the South is gonna force the issue and the Big Ten wont risk the backlash of postponing. I say it is 60/40 right now everything goes on as planned.

I wont watch mind you...I havent watched a game yet since they came back in the other sports. I didnt miss it when it was gone and these faux seasons do nothing for me.

edit: There are reports of players that have had issues after contracting the disease including myocarditis in players who get it. And Twitter is full of people who are saying the announcement from the Big Ten will come tomorrow and the reaction is about what you would expect.

The NCAA as we know it is about to change...

 

[Handyman]

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/st...90724131758080

College football sources tell @SInow that the Big Ten is moving toward a decision to cancel the 2020 fall season, while engaging other Power 5 conferences on a uniform decision to be announced later this week.

#WeWantToPlay is going to throw a monkey wrench in this. The Southern Players for sure are all in on the season. I dont think the Big Ten has the balls to postpone alone and the Pac-12 doesnt bring enough clout. They need one of the southern conferences to join or all hell is gonna break loose...

The countdown has begun...the NCAA and the conferences are about to take a shot in the nuts no matter how this plays out. Honestly...if they want to play let them play. If they get sick though fuck em.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Isn’t southern teams playing each other the wankfest that the southern idiots want anyway?

 

[Handyman]

Yeah...but there are Northern players who want to play too. (I believe Justin Fields and other tOSU players want to play)

I dont think the Big Ten has the balls...and I doubt ESPN or BTN wants to deal with the loss of programming. If the players arent pushing for this and the fans arent the schools will look way worse if they shut down. The players want the right to make the decision themselves fine but they lose all sympathy from me.

edit: #WeWanttoPlay is trending huge and the players and coaches from all over are behind it. The Big Ten will back down.

 

[Handyman]

 

[French Rage]

So the check cleared?

 

[Kepler]

So the check cleared?

Translation:

"F-ck you. F-ck your kid. This is a business."

 

[Bronco]

These will be the same people in the class action lawsuit in 20 years when the same players develop lung and heart problems due to complications of Covid-19.

 

[Kepler]

These will be the same people in the class action lawsuit in 20 years when the same players develop lung and heart problems due to complications of Covid-19.

After trying to treat it with prayer.

 

[dxmnkd316]

These will be the same people in the class action lawsuit in 20 years when the same players develop lung and heart problems due to complications of Covid-19.

+keplers post which won’t quote.

That’s exactly how this will play out.

 

[Handyman]

Translation:

"F-ck you. F-ck your kid. This is a business."

Actually they are saying "F-ck MY kid". That is the parents saying that...

The players want the right to make the decision themselves. They say if they are allowed to opt out they should be allowed to opt in. I cant argue that logic...

Let them sign their life away if that is what they want. They are on record saying they think the schools are doing enough to keep them safe...so there will be no lawsuit.

Sounds like the Big Ten is already chickening out...

Well the good thing that will come out of this is the conferences, the NCAA and the coaches are about to lose all the leverage they had. P5 football will unionize. The players DGAF anymore and if they force the season they will prove they have all the power. Collective bargaining will be next. (which I support)

Ironic the thing that will probably get the players what they want (and deserve) is them throwing a hissy fit because the schools actually are trying to keep them safe :-o

 

[dxmnkd316]

You can’t argue that logic?

You absolutely can. There are other people involved and they have just as much right to say no. And if the organization sponsoring the event says no, who the fuck are these brats to say everyone else should sacrifice for them? If you want to play so bad, fine. Go play in a league that doesn’t care about your safety and would throw you into a volcano if it would make them money.

There are lots of people hurting during this pandemic. Your stupid football game is worth almost nothing even in normal times.

Go to school. For free. Sans concussions for a year. This is an opportunity to receive without giving anything in return. Paid furloughs don’t come along often.

 

[Bronco]

It is reasonable to expect the parents of players to want their child to play. If you go to (insert big time college football team) and have NFL aspirations then having a season cancelled has a terrible domino effect to their career path. Too many questions for the player and their family. Does the NFL draft happen? How does it effect my child if it does/n't? Will there be a glut of players in my child's draft class? For many families these players are the golden goose. With the short lifespan (playing time) of an NFL player, any delay is unacceptable. So I do understand why these families would be willing to throw their child into the volcano. The player is willingly leaping into it too. These men don't think anything bad will happen to them. And for the majority of them, that's likely true. For now. Until more data is collected about long term complications with the disease.

The question is what about those players that aren't going to the NFL? It is pretty clear that the rest of the NCAA has decided it isn't worth it. The MAC, Div II, Div III have all decided that it isn't worth the cost. I fully support them. It isn't worth the cost. These athletic departments do not have the money to handle the testing needed, or the lawsuits should the worst happen.

For the P5 universities it is simple math. Does the income from the athletic department/donating alums/student recruitment outweigh the cost of lawsuits and bad PR should the worst happen? I don't know the answer to that one.

 

[Kepler]

The players want the right to make the decision themselves. They say if they are allowed to opt out they should be allowed to opt in. I cant argue that logic...

I can. They're kids. They're jocks so they're dumb kids. The universities have a responsibility to act in loco parentis whether they want to acknowledge it or not. For public schools, we the citizens have that responsibility.

If the parents say play then the state needs to step in and actively say "no," by the same power and motivation behind all public health regulation. That trumps the parents, who at least have some standing to make decisions.

The kids have no standing. They're imbeciles. We have to suck it up and deny ourselves our bullsh-t entertainment and save their lives.

 

[SJHovey]

I can. They're kids. They're jocks so they're dumb kids. The universities have a responsibility to act in loco parentis whether they want to acknowledge it or not. For public schools, we the citizens have that responsibility.

If the parents say play then the state needs to step in and actively say "no," by the same power and motivation behind all public health regulation. That trumps the parents, who at least have some standing to make decisions.

The kids have no standing. They're imbeciles. We have to suck it up and deny ourselves our bullsh-t entertainment and save their lives.

Aren't college "kids" adults, with the legal right to vote, to get married, join the army, etc...? So long as they vote D for you, they should be seen, not heard?

 

[bronconick]

@Brett_McMurphy
Dan Patrick reports Big Ten had internal vote & by 12-2 margin, league members opted on not having a fall football season. Nebraska & Iowa were only schools that voted to play this fall,
@dpshow
said. Patrick said Big Ten & Pac-12 would cancel fall seasons Tuesday