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Harvard 2022-23: What's Up?

tedlasso said:
Has anyone been following the Northwestern Football and Baseball situations? The response by the school was on point with the seriousness of the subject. Crazy that Harvard somehow gets a pass on the worst handling of a situation ever. The athletic director should be fired immediately, and hopefully, someone can right the ship at that institution. The student-athletes at Harvard across all sports have not been supported for many years, and every communication by the athletic departments since McDermott took over has been total lip service. It has been just disgusting watching the situation. I understand that "outrage doesn't provide solutions", but outrage is a common emotion among alum and students alike. How does one "provide solutions" when you have no power in the situation? Harvard will continue to do whatever it wants and hold itself above other institutions.
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Your last sentence pretty much sums up how Harvard operates regardless of whether it's athletics or staff and maintenance. It took Matt Damon and Ben Affleck coming back to campus to stand with service workers who were looking for a new contract and better pay. Harvard didn't care one whit. Their modus operandi is that the institution is bigger than any one individual and they will simply do what is in their best interest for the school, not for any department or individual.

Agree that McDermott needs to be held accountable. Unfortunately, I don't see her being affected by any of this. Shame.
 
With the approach of another week and of high summer itself, the protracted delay in finally settling the Stone affair — i.e., hiring a replacement — is something of a scandal itself. Eighteen months of dithering has meant losing all initiative in this matter. The A.D. apparently had no plan A, B, C or D. So all I can imagine was a frantic, fruitless and silly pursuit of a marquee name, followed by an equally silly appeal to some imagined respected interim caretaker, when what this situation has always called for is freshness and youth, with a certain degree of derring-do thrown in. (Alas, these are not traditional Harvard characteristics.) Caution was never going to be the answer. And what has happened to any presumption of dealing with these young athletes in good faith?
 
There are about thirty days until kids are on campus and still no coach. I have come to the conclusion that this is not the AD's decision, and the hire will come directly from a small group on the Board of Overseers.

Despite EM's visible role in the "Harvard Athletics Celebrates 50yrs of Title IX" documentary (released 6/22 - completely scrubbed in 2 weeks with no mention of KS), I don't think she is guiding this ship. I agree that this program needs a "Fresh" perspective - no association with the previous regime whatsoever. That being said, here are my odds - Who ya got?

Maura Crowell: 8-5
Courtney Kennedy: 9-5
Dave Flint: 2-1
Jackie Crum: 5-2
Laura Bellamy: 3-1
Matt Desrosiers: 7-2
Jeff Kampersal: 4-1
Julie Chu: 9-2
Nick Carpenito: 5-1
Tony Maci: 10-1
Shelly Picard: 20-1
 
ShootDePuckNo said:
There are about thirty days until kids are on campus and still no coach. I have come to the conclusion that this is not the AD's decision, and the hire will come directly from a small group on the Board of Overseers.

Despite EM's visible role in the "Harvard Athletics Celebrates 50yrs of Title IX" documentary (released 6/22 - completely scrubbed in 2 weeks with no mention of KS), I don't think she is guiding this ship. I agree that this program needs a "Fresh" perspective - no association with the previous regime whatsoever. That being said, here are my odds - Who ya got?

Maura Crowell: 8-5
Courtney Kennedy: 9-5
Dave Flint: 2-1
Jackie Crum: 5-2
Laura Bellamy: 3-1
Matt Desrosiers: 7-2
Jeff Kampersal: 4-1
Julie Chu: 9-2
Nick Carpenito: 5-1
Tony Maci: 10-1
Shelly Picard: 20-1
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Crowell. I don't like seeing Crum on your list I'd hate to see the UW coaching staff get changed . Her hubby is big wig architect in the Madison area and they have an 2 young daughters so I don't know that she'd relocate based on his job.

If I was Hawvard, I'd reach out to Muzzy AKA Calamity Jane. She'd get the roster overhauled with her patented Wheel O Transfer Program in 2 years max.
 
Very hard for the Ivys to take in transfers, and no grad transfer path, so a coach who builds their team by stealing the best players from others is not going to be well suited. Harvard should be an easy place to recruit to. Very appealing destination for a lot of the hockey youth players (and their families)
 
Timothy A said:
Crowell. I don't like seeing Crum on your list I'd hate to see the UW coaching staff get changed . Her hubby is big wig architect in the Madison area and they have an 2 young daughters so I don't know that she'd relocate based on his job.

If I was Hawvard, I'd reach out to Muzzy AKA Calamity Jane. She'd get the roster overhauled with her patented Wheel O Transfer Program in 2 years max.
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Crum in Cambridge is a pipe dream.....a long shot at best. Her character is impeccable - probably way overqualified. However, I envision a scenario similar to the James Earl Jones character Terence Mann in "Field of Dreams" - where Mann denies for decades that he once said in an interview that he dreamed of playing in Ebetts Field. The fans of HWH wish she felt that way about the Bright-Landry!
 
Cornholio said:
Very hard for the Ivys to take in transfers, and no grad transfer path, so a coach who builds their team by stealing the best players from others is not going to be well suited. Harvard should be an easy place to recruit to. Very appealing destination for a lot of the hockey youth players (and their families)
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Very appealing place perhaps for some if one aspires to shell out a ton of cash to attend an IVY that may or may not be aligned with a student athletes future plans. I can think of several reasons why a student athlete may not find Harvard to be a desirable institution.
 
ShootDePuckNo said:
That being said, here are my odds - Who ya got?

Maura Crowell: 8-5
Courtney Kennedy: 9-5
Dave Flint: 2-1
Jackie Crum: 5-2
Laura Bellamy: 3-1
Matt Desrosiers: 7-2
Jeff Kampersal: 4-1
Julie Chu: 9-2
Nick Carpenito: 5-1
Tony Maci: 10-1
Shelly Picard: 20-1
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Competitively, why would Crowell, Flint, or Desrosiers take the job? All three have had multiple teams reach the Frozen Four since Harvard has last been there, all have reached the Final, and Desrosiers won twice after Harvard's last run. Is compensation that much higher at Harvard? I would think Potsdam and Duluth have a lower cost of living than Boston. If a coach wants to live in Boston, then maybe that would drive a move. Otherwise, I don't see it.
 
ARM said:
Competitively, why would Crowell, Flint, or Desrosiers take the job? All three have had multiple teams reach the Frozen Four since Harvard has last been there, all have reached the Final, and Desrosiers won twice after Harvard's last run. Is compensation that much higher at Harvard? I would think Potsdam and Duluth have a lower cost of living than Boston. If a coach wants to live in Boston, then maybe that would drive a move. Otherwise, I don't see it.
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Isn't that quite an accomplishment to coach at an Ivy League school? Plus you have the challenge of a resurrection. If I had a choice of those 4 jobs I would take a Hawvawd.
 
ShootDePuckNo said:
There are about thirty days until kids are on campus and still no coach. I have come to the conclusion that this is not the AD's decision, and the hire will come directly from a small group on the Board of Overseers.

Despite EM's visible role in the "Harvard Athletics Celebrates 50yrs of Title IX" documentary (released 6/22 - completely scrubbed in 2 weeks with no mention of KS), I don't think she is guiding this ship. I agree that this program needs a "Fresh" perspective - no association with the previous regime whatsoever. That being said, here are my odds - Who ya got?

Maura Crowell: 8-5
Courtney Kennedy: 9-5
Dave Flint: 2-1
Jackie Crum: 5-2
Laura Bellamy: 3-1
Matt Desrosiers: 7-2
Jeff Kampersal: 4-1
Julie Chu: 9-2
Nick Carpenito: 5-1
Tony Maci: 10-1
Shelly Picard: 20-1
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I can't think of a single reason why Jeff Kampersal would even think about leaving Penn State to go back to the Ivy League to coach at Harvard. He left Princeton for a reason, whatever it was, and he's finally seeing more success here at Penn State after getting his own recruits on the roster now. Sure, Boston is about 500 times bigger than State College, but that might be a drawback, too.
 
ShootDePuckNo said:
There are about thirty days until kids are on campus and still no coach. I have come to the conclusion that this is not the AD's decision, and the hire will come directly from a small group on the Board of Overseers.

Despite EM's visible role in the "Harvard Athletics Celebrates 50yrs of Title IX" documentary (released 6/22 - completely scrubbed in 2 weeks with no mention of KS), I don't think she is guiding this ship. I agree that this program needs a "Fresh" perspective - no association with the previous regime whatsoever. That being said, here are my odds - Who ya got?

Maura Crowell: 8-5
Courtney Kennedy: 9-5
Dave Flint: 2-1
Jackie Crum: 5-2
Laura Bellamy: 3-1
Matt Desrosiers: 7-2
Jeff Kampersal: 4-1
Julie Chu: 9-2
Nick Carpenito: 5-1
Tony Maci: 10-1
Shelly Picard: 20-1
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None of those top seven are coming on this short a notice to a bottomed out program with no semblance of organization in the athletic department, a vast pall of scandal hanging over the team, the 2025 commitments about to strike midnight and therefore no time to get recruiting for this cycle, and the window to do anything useful for roster building for this season long since gone. If Harvard wants one of those names, they need to slap an interim tag on someone, wait out a bad year, and hire a coach with an actual offseason to work with in 2024.
 
On the Clarkson Roundtable and her Instagram account, Caroline Aufiero, former Harvard commit now headed to Potsdam in 2024.
 
ARM said:
Competitively, why would Crowell, Flint, or Desrosiers take the job? All three have had multiple teams reach the Frozen Four since Harvard has last been there, all have reached the Final, and Desrosiers won twice after Harvard's last run. Is compensation that much higher at Harvard? I would think Potsdam and Duluth have a lower cost of living than Boston. If a coach wants to live in Boston, then maybe that would drive a move. Otherwise, I don't see it.
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Crowell, maybe not under the circumstances, but her assistant (former Harvard player) probably would and would be a top candidate.
 
Timothy A said:
Isn't that quite an accomplishment to coach at an Ivy League school?
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Do you think more highly of Laura Schuler during her second stint as a UMD assistant after having coached Dartmouth (and Canada Olympians!) than you did during her previous years in Duluth? How many Brown coaches can the average fan name after Digit Murphy? I'll grant that Harvard is higher profile, but coaching these programs while they were winners was viewed more positively than is the case today.
 
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