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The Barr Has Been Raised at UMaine

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AMC said:
There are some entire D-3 sports that would like to subscribe to your newsletter. But honestly, I think the math is:

At Miami:

Maine wins: MAINE 2 flights, 1 drive
Maine loses: MAINE 2 flights, MIAMI 2 drives (to MI and back)

At Maine:

Maine wins: MIAMI 2 flights, MAINE 2 flights
Miami wins: MIAMI 2 flights, 2 drives (to MI and back)

At Michigan:

Maine wins: MAINE 2 flights, MIAMI 2 drives
Miami wins: MAINE 2 flights, MIAMI 2 drives

There was a chance the NCAA could save on one way bus fare if Maine won at Miami. That's worth messing with bracket integrity if you are the NCAA and have to pay millions in administrative salaries.
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Yes, AMC, that's an utterly bullshit calculus on their part.

Why bother to seed the tournament in the first place, if the be-all-end-all is merely to save a few bucks, seeds be damned? That's beyond cynical, but the NC$$ has never worried about a hue and cry from minor sports such as field hockey... So on we go, down the same rat-hole.

I'm not saying that Maine would have won this game in Orono, but I AM saying that they deserved to play there, and IMO would have had conditions far more in their favor.
 
Fishman'81 said:
Yes, AMC, that's an utterly bull**** calculus on their part.

Why bother to seed the tournament in the first place, if the be-all-end-all is merely to save a few bucks, seeds be damned? That's beyond cynical, but the NC$$ has never worried about a hue and cry from minor sports such as field hockey... So on we go, down the same rat-hole.

I'm not saying that Maine would have won this game in Orono, but I AM saying that they deserved to play there, and IMO would have had conditions far more in their favor.
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I know it's a big ask, but I really do hope Coach Barr accelerates the turnaround of the Men's Hockey program, as I can't bear reading fair-weather Field Hockey fan(s) crying over the injustice of having to play on the road in a non-revenue sport, not to mention overlooking the fact the Lady Bears blew a 2-0 lead, amidst the horror of playing in 60+ degree temps in Oxford OH.

If you see me bellyaching about UNH Men's Soccer getting shipped on the road for the NCAA's later this month despite a Top 10 national ranking/undefeated record, I beg you to call me out on it.

You play the game, you win the game, and nothing else matters. No excuses.

That's what Walshy believed. When did some of you get so frickin' soft?!?
 
Here is what's being cited as "tournament seeding"...however...

https://nfhca.org/division-i/

The NFHCA Division I National Coaches Poll is voted on by NFHCA member coaches and has no bearing on selection to the 2021 NCAA Division I Field Hockey Championship.
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Additionally, the NCAA's official bracket specifically notes the game as unseeded. Same for Delaware/Fairfield.

You can point to Maine's advantage in wins/losses all you want, but look at Miami's schedule and where their losses came from - Six against top-25 opponents, four to tournament teams, four against Big Ten opponents and four against ACC opponents. It's very feasible that the committee just thought Miami was a deserving host based on strength of schedule.

Its also Miami's 7th-straight trip to the NCAA Tournament - and yes, I am a RedHawk graduate - perhaps they've earned some national clout along the way.

Maybe it was money - and Miami drew the long straw in the unseeded matchup simply based on geography.

I share this just to point out a different perspective and the reality of a so referenced #21 at #25 matchup, not to gloat or call anyone a 'dope' for rooting for their team privately and outside of the opponents' thread (which I especially wouldn't do if I'd spent months playing thread police and telling everyone else where they can and cannot post).

To anyone who didn't throw a fit on the UNH thread, congrats on a great season. Hope your team keeps it rolling in future years - if we cant enjoy a nationally competitive UNH/UM hockey rivalry, maybe FH is the next best thing...
 
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This is what happens when your ICE hockey team is 0 for……..field hockey discussion. lol.
That said, congrats to the ladies!!!
 
A few years ago I said that Maine hockey had fallen on hard times, but it was going to get worse. I recall I wrote something along the lines of the Black Bears were going to become the laughingstock of Hockey East. I lost a great many friends after that post. I wonder how those people feel tonight.

3-1 Merrimack after the first period, and it isn't even that close. Shots on goal are 15-1.

This is at home, incidentally. Against Merrimack.
 
ticapnews said:
A few years ago I said that Maine hockey had fallen on hard times, but it was going to get worse. I recall I wrote something along the lines of the Black Bears were going to become the laughingstock of Hockey East. I lost a great many friends after that post. I wonder how those people feel tonight.

3-1 Merrimack after the first period, and it isn't even that close. Shots on goal are 15-1.

This is at home, incidentally. Against Merrimack.
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Im still processing what it is i just watched.
 
ticapnews said:
A few years ago I said that Maine hockey had fallen on hard times, but it was going to get worse. I recall I wrote something along the lines of the Black Bears were going to become the laughingstock of Hockey East. I lost a great many friends after that post. I wonder how those people feel tonight.

3-1 Merrimack after the first period, and it isn't even that close. Shots on goal are 15-1.

This is at home, incidentally. Against Merrimack.
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I'm still fully convinced in our bright future. The present, however, could be as dark as they come. This is going to be a long year. Maybe one of the worst years for any D1 men's hockey program in the history of the nation. But it will improve from this. Watch for the 2023-24 Black Bears.
 
Turned the TV on about 10 minutes ago and I've seen Maine score 3 times to take a 4-3 lead....they look pretty good to me! Never saw a Gendron (RIP) team play like that.
 
ticapnews said:
A few years ago I said that Maine hockey had fallen on hard times, but it was going to get worse. I recall I wrote something along the lines of the Black Bears were going to become the laughingstock of Hockey East. I lost a great many friends after that post. I wonder how those people feel tonight.

3-1 Merrimack after the first period, and it isn't even that close. Shots on goal are 15-1.

This is at home, incidentally. Against Merrimack.
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Might want to update those stats, Skippy.
 
ticapnews said:
Are you going to argue that the first period wasn't an embarrassment?

The second has been a marked improvement, but this is still Merrimack.
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I'm not here to tell you that this is 2011 Merrimack out there tonight. I'm not trying to justify how Maine played in the first, which I didn't see but it sounds ugly. I'm not trying to tell you Maine will be good this year, because by all indicators they might be pretty putrid. But you're judging Merrimack just on their name, this team is 4-6 with wins against each of BC and BU, and they took UMass to overtime in Amherst and nearly won. They've been competitive with or even outright won games against the top teams in Hockey East. No need to downplay Maine playing well against them.
 
After listening to Barr during the last commercial break....this guy is young, vibrant, well-spoken and smart....Maine is very lucky to have him as their head coach.
 
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