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psych said:
An article on Vox and another on Politico. Won’t claim to know whether the journalists writing the pieces know the difference between their as-es and a hole in the ground. I hope they’re wrong and that this is a slam dunk case.
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WSJ came out in defense of Donald. New York Times came out in defense of the DA. Me? I don't side with either of them I side with the lawyers that I've seen commenting on TV that I respect. And there's been more than one.

That and the fact that someone has already done time for this very crime.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Not what I've read or heard at all. This is bread and butter in New York and you don't get off. His lawyer already went to jail for the same thing. He's not getting out of this net.
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It seems like the question is this.

Falsifying business records looks like it'll be pretty easy to prove, at least based upon what everyone is saying. But that's just a misdemeanor. The DA decided to prosecute as a felony which requires that they prove he falsified the records to cover up evidence of another crime. That, apparently, is going to be more difficult, or at least as of yet the DA hasn't shown his cards with respect to how he will make that connection.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
WSJ came out in defense of Donald. New York Times came out in defense of the DA. Me? I don't side with either of them I side with the lawyers that I've seen commenting on TV that I respect. And there's been more than one.

That and the fact that someone has already done time for this very crime.
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And the fact that Trump's own Justice Department said that lawyer was acting on orders from, or on behalf of, Donald Trump.
 
SJHovey said:
It seems like the question is this.

Falsifying business records looks like it'll be pretty easy to prove, at least based upon what everyone is saying. But that's just a misdemeanor. The DA decided to prosecute as a felony which requires that they prove he falsified the records to cover up evidence of another crime. That, apparently, is going to be more difficult, or at least as of yet the DA hasn't shown his cards with respect to how he will make that connection.
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The crime is election fraud, or election interference. he made the payments to Stormy and the rest to influence the outcome of an election.

You know, the crime his lawyer was convicted of and served prison time for.
 
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SJHovey said:
It seems like the question is this.

Falsifying business records looks like it'll be pretty easy to prove, at least based upon what everyone is saying. But that's just a misdemeanor. The DA decided to prosecute as a felony which requires that they prove he falsified the records to cover up evidence of another crime. That, apparently, is going to be more difficult, or at least as of yet the DA hasn't shown his cards with respect to how he will make that connection.
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And the statute of limitations has run out for longer on the misdemeanor.
 
Drew S. said:
I get people absolutely hate Trump but you should want him to get a fair trial. Our justice system is so much bigger than any one person or one trial. Not sure why that is controversial.
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From what I've read, every prosecutor and defense lawyer rave about how fair he is as a judge.

He ain't an Angel Hermandez. He's the automated strike zone.
 
Drew S. said:
And the statute of limitations has run out for longer on the misdemeanor.
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Eh, the little I’ve read- what people are saying- this isn’t an issue. Since Trump has been out of state for four of the past six years, New York law says it hasn’t ran out.
 
It's amusing that people have brought up rather trivial things that would negate this case. If any one of those were true, then it would barely take a qualified attorney to file that reason and have the charges dismissed.

Since that's not happened, there are just two possibilities- either the trivial things are not applicable or the moron's lawyers are just that bad. You can choose.

Let the system play out as it's supposed to do.
 
And remember that the DA used a Grand Jury to indict. That makes a huge difference. I seriously doubt an entire jury would issue a trivial indictment against a former President.
 
psych said:
Eh, the little I’ve read- what people are saying- this isn’t an issue. Since Trump has been out of state for four of the past six years, New York law says it hasn’t ran out.
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Ah see, there's the advantage you have, with Drew being illiterate.
 
Drew S. said:
Does the judge handle many political trials? I very much doubt that is the case so don’t think the daughter’s work would have ever been an issue before. The court must have someone impartial and they should be in charge.
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So then no Trump or GOP appointed judge should ever hear his appeals? Or Obama or Biden too I guess...all would be biased!

You are demonstrating you have no clue. Just stop...
 
For Parise's sake, put him on ignore. All he wants now is attention, and he's getting it. We all remember grade school.
 
burd said:
For Parise's sake, put him on ignore. All he wants now is attention, and he's getting it. We all remember grade school.
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I can't beat up real midgets so I do it to mental ones on the internet!!

(You are right of course)
 
rufus said:
The crime is election fraud, or election interference. he made the payments to Stormy and the rest to influence the outcome of an election.

You know, the crime his lawyer was convicted of and served prison time for.
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There's also at least one where the underlying crime is intent to commit state tax fraud later. So it's not just about election fraud.
 
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