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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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I would think every virus would be aiming for highest transmissibility, lowest lethality. All it wants is to reproduce, and that gives it its maximum spread. Like the common cold, it just can go on forever -- the perfect adaptation. It even becomes symbiotic because it gets us out of work.
 
I found it on Kos. Web search says it from the NY Dept. of Health and Mental Welfare.

Also shows that the number of vaccinated people hospitalized has remained relatively constant, while the unvaccinated is experiencing explosive growth. And I will wager that those vaccinated who have been hospitalized are ones with the highest risk factors for Covid, the elderly, cancer patients, or other pre-existing comorbidities that leave them especially vulnerable.
 
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I would think every virus would be aiming for highest transmissibility, lowest lethality. All it wants is to reproduce, and that gives it its maximum spread. Like the common cold, it just can go on forever -- the perfect adaptation. It even becomes symbiotic because it gets us out of work.

The best reading of this I've found is to think of viral mutations as a car, filled with people. In this car, the infectiousness is the driver. Period. Anything else is a passenger. Now, passengers can affect the driver. Crazy high severity/lethality will negatively impact spread (a dead person will infect fewer others than a live person). But pure Darwinism says that all other factors come for the ride, have a bit of a say in the destination, but the infectiousness is, in the end, the driver. As you mention, the sole purpose of a virus is to make more of itself (hey... that kind of sounds like...)
 
Pet peeve: there is NO purpose for a virus (nor a human, but that’s better left for the philosophy thread). Those that replicate well are prevalent; those that don’t, aren’t. Is or is not, not wants or wants not.

I get the seductiveness of the terminology, but I think it does more harm than good when it comes to informing the ignorant.
 
Better would be "that is its life's purpose"

That's not even true, though. It's like saying "the purpose of this river is to run downhill."

Nothing natural is "for" anything. Things merely are. Only artifacts designed by man have purpose, because purpose is only between our ears.
 
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"VAD, VAC or somewhere in between?":

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/01/covid-omicron-vaccination-rashomon/621199/

What the writer does not mention in this article is that sympathy for the unvaccinated is waning.

I would say I am halfway between. I will live my life, but with precautions. I travelled to Mexico and wore a mask and took tests before I left and before I came home. I literally had to wear a mask for 8 straight hours when I came home between checking out of the hotel, ride to the airport, waiting for the flight, the flight and the Uber ride home. Didn't have an issue with it once. I will make those type of sacrifices to keep others safe and live a normal life.

But I am 100% against what some seem to think is necessary. I don't want to shelter in place again. I don't want to not associate with others. (well not any less than normal ;^) ) I don't want the economy to shut down again and all manner of business that aren't deemed essential to be forced to close. The whole point of pushing for the vaccine was to not have to do that again. I totally get why someone might choose to do that or say in the case of someone whose family is it at risk advocates those closest to them do it but as long as the population at large has the ability to keep others safe and we can take precautions then we should not have to take two steps back. I know that sounds selfish, part of me hates saying that, but in truth because I know how easy it is to do things the right way and be safe now as opposed to 2 years ago I just dont feel the urge to go hermit on the bit again. I would choose to though if someone was at risk I just think that should be my choice to make.

Swansong,

If a variant hit that spread like Omicron and killed like Delta...I mean that would be something out of the game Pandemic. It would be a disaster on a level I don't think people even realize. It would be like a bad movie...
 
I can understand what Handy is saying but I'm the opposite. I would happily work 100% remote again if I could. I am sheltering in place except when at work. I can very happily live here online with friends and then in person with my wife.

I'm actually much happier than when I was expected to circulate.

But (1) I don't expect everyone to live like this, (2) I was never big on other humans, and (3) I am old enough to have everything I need. I don't have to go out of the house to find love or company. If I was alone I would risk going out.
 
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I found it on Kos. Web search says it from the NY Dept. of Health and Mental Welfare.

Also shows that the number of vaccinated people hospitalized has remained relatively constant, while the unvaccinated is experiencing explosive growth. And I will wager that those vaccinated who have been hospitalized are ones with the highest risk factors for Covid, the elderly, cancer patients, or other pre-existing comorbidities that leave them especially vulnerable.

Looks like it's part of this https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-main.page where NYC has a github site https://github.com/nychealth/coronavirus-data for all of the data. I'm not a good database person, and could not find the specific data showing the hospitalization rates split up. I'm sure it's in there somewhere- I just can't find it.

If anyone is good at finding data- if you can find it....
 
Also shows that the number of vaccinated people hospitalized has remained relatively constant

Bear in mind that is as the number of vaccinated increases, so our percentage sick is actually dropping. In contrast, as the unvaxxed die they are more than replaced by new hospitalized unvaxxed. The virus has to work extra hard to keep getting more members of a dwindling population ill, but it has been able to because the unvaxxed are sitting ducks.
 
I can understand what Handy is saying but I'm the opposite. I would happily work 100% remote again if I could. I am sheltering in place except when at work. I can very happily live here online with friends and then in person with my wife.

I'm actually much happier than when I was expected to circulate.

But (1) I don't expect everyone to live like this, (2) I was never big on other humans, and (3) I am old enough to have everything I need. I don't have to go out of the house to find love or company. If I was alone I would risk going out.

We are more in this situation, too. Waiting to go to our first hockey game... If things improve by May, we may go on a cruise, too- but will drive to the port to avoid all of the fliers.
 
Just received our OSHA requirement from HR for Covid. Must show proof of vaccination or negative test, blah blah blah. I think the Supreme's are working on that so it may go away. Was on the phone just when I got that email with the smartest co-worker I've ever worked with. He of course is not vaccinated.

Go figure. Tried, nicely to talk about it with him and convince him why he should get vaccinated. No pushing. I doubt I convinced him of anything.
 
I can understand what Handy is saying but I'm the opposite. I would happily work 100% remote again if I could. I am sheltering in place except when at work. I can very happily live here online with friends and then in person with my wife.

I'm actually much happier than when I was expected to circulate.

But (1) I don't expect everyone to live like this, (2) I was never big on other humans, and (3) I am old enough to have everything I need. I don't have to go out of the house to find love or company. If I was alone I would risk going out.

I'm sort of similar to Handy. I work from home so other than the store, I don't go out much. However, I am playing a show on friday (pending cancelation) and we have 185 pre-sales already (holy shit, I can't believe that many people are paying ahead of time to see my tribute band play...). I am just going to assume I'm catching covid at the show, but I will trust that the vaccines work and that I will have minor symptoms at worst. I'm lucky in that I can just continue to stay home for the week after and I have plenty of tests in case I need them (I'll test Tuesdayish anyway). I've been very careful going out. While I've eaten in plenty of restaurants, I'm careful to do so only when I won't be seeing anyone for days after. I've been to see other live bands play (and, naturally, caught a non-Covid cold from one back in October), but again I make sure to avoid plans for the week after.

I wouldn't call myself "Vaxxed and done" by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm fortunate to be in a position where I can very easily shelter in place if necessary without negatively impacting my income, and hopefully if/when I do catch Covid the transmission ends with me.
 
I am pretty much in the VAD camp, with a few reservations. I have worked 100% remotely since the start of all this, and I changed firms in part because I felt my new, much smaller firm would be back to on-site visits sooner than my former megafirm. I want to actually work with my clients in-person again, whenever they are ready to do so. I realize that some will probably never be ready and consider this change to their working relationship with consultants to be permanent, especially now that they haven't had to pay our travel expenses in almost 2 years. That's their choice, and for some projects it does work, but I feel a lot more gets accomplished in-person, even if it's just the first 1-2 weeks of kickoff and initial workshops to do planning and gather the requirements. I think eventually a majority of clients will see that and want us visiting again. I am burned out on Zoom, Teams, WebEx etc. and I haven't turned my camera on in months except for the rare occasion that I am obligated to. I am triple jabbed, so I no longer wear a mask unless a particular business requires it and/or still posts "Please Wear a Mask" on the front door (only because I'm not an a55hole). As I see it, I have done my part and unless the next mutation substantially increases the odds of death, I'm not going to be a COVID worrywart. If you are eligible then get your shots or risk suffering the consequences of your actions, because I am no longer going to inconvenience myself or go out of my way to protect you.
 
So, in more ridiculous news today, I present to you these:

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/...^1479639022603538440|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=
Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski
First, hydroxychloroquine was their alternative drug to treating covid. Then it was ivermectin. Now, time to buy stock in Viagra, because MAGAs are about to buy it all up.


and...


https://www.thedailybeast.com/anti-...-own-urine-to-fight-covid-19?via=twitter_page
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1480600764401823754
The Recount

@therecount
Prominent anti-vax conspiracy theorist Christopher Key says “urine therapy” is the antidote to COVID: “God’s given us everything we need.”




One comment I saw somewhere was "I love that these morons are literally - literally - one step away from saying 'eat shit to own the libs.'"


If I didn't know that this jackass was for real, I'd swear this was all some crazy Russian astro-turn disinformation campaign.
 
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