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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020
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Because, for some people, this (covid) is the highlight of their lives. It gives them purpose and meaning. Sin, salvation, and righteousness. Drab, obscure existence has come alive. Don't underestimate how exciting, how dramatic, how career-building Covid is for some people.
MichVandal
Well-known member
It's nice to have ignore on, seeing that jebbers keeps posting that he want to murder people who agree with him.
rufus
rock and roller
No, Jebbers is just a stupid, ignorant fuck.
rufus
rock and roller
We can't rip out the White House putting green to put in a vegetable garden, can we? I mean, that's un-American.
Let alone push schools to start serving healthier meals. Oh, the horror!!!
"Quit telling us what to do, you uppity ******. Condescending, elitist beech"
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
I was wondering who was going to be the first dumbass who wouldn't get the joke. No surprise who it turned out to be. Never would have known since I block him.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Jeb's mom doesn't allow him to watch such movies.
French Rage
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Flaggy doesn't understand most human social interactions like humor. He also starts screaming if you touch him on the head.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
I just did my annual Christmas jubilee so I got to experience it all live.
In defense of expanded testing (sorry, busy weekend).
I agree with MichVandal that the derps wouldn't change their behavior, but just judging by vaccination rates, I think a large majority would act accordingly if they knew they were positive (even if asymptomatic). Not enough to wipe Covid out, but enough to substantially reduce spread.
Look at South Korea (and contrast to the US):
https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20210521.255232/full/
As of today, South Korea has 4293 deaths from Covid... total. They have about 50,000,000 people. Do the math. The testing and tracing was a big, big part of their response and it's been wildly successful. We chose... "other means".
I agree with MichVandal that the derps wouldn't change their behavior, but just judging by vaccination rates, I think a large majority would act accordingly if they knew they were positive (even if asymptomatic). Not enough to wipe Covid out, but enough to substantially reduce spread.
Look at South Korea (and contrast to the US):
https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20210521.255232/full/
As of today, South Korea has 4293 deaths from Covid... total. They have about 50,000,000 people. Do the math. The testing and tracing was a big, big part of their response and it's been wildly successful. We chose... "other means".
ericredaxe
Veteran
To play devils advocate -
At my sons school the COVID vaccine is not on the list of required immunizations to attend school so only about 2/3 of his grade (7th grade so everyone has been eligible since June) is vaccinated.
The school does not have any sort of remote learning contingency plan set up so if you have to quarantine or isolate you are kind of screwed academically.
Why would anyone sign their kid up for routine testing and take the chance of getting told to stay home for two weeks even if they have no symptoms?
That seems like a plan where the responsible ones (those who are vaccinated) get punished to protect the unvaccinated.
rufus
rock and roller
Sure, but testing positive will have no effect on whether someone vaccinates or not. You can't get vaccinated until your over the infection, and anyone that was possibly considering getting vaccinated might just decide to finally get it.
But the derps, who are what, 80% of the unvaccinated, aren't going to change their minds just cause they tested positive. Youve seen the stories, sick for months, often barely survived it, and still doubling down on not getting the jab.
But the derps, who are what, 80% of the unvaccinated, aren't going to change their minds just cause they tested positive. Youve seen the stories, sick for months, often barely survived it, and still doubling down on not getting the jab.
I don't disagree with you at all. I think a mature test/trace program includes contingencies like the one your school lacks. But even if it didn't, I think the general reduction in spread from those that - of their own volition - do the right thing would be non-negligible.
ericredaxe
Veteran
Perhaps - although in speaking with friends, I don't know one school that has a remote learning option set up in this situation.
I think that for the most part, the majority will do the right thing if they suspect they may have COVID and test / isolate etc, but the majority is also not interested in widespread testing if they are not sick.
MichVandal
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Don't get me wrong on one account (and you are not saying this, BTW)- I am for more, free testing. Some of the travelling we plan to do requires testing. And I'm fully ok with that. Probably will get some cheap ones a few days before we have to do the official monitored one so that we know to make the effort to travel.
What I don't see is more testing being a way out. It will just be used as a tool for the responsible. It will be avoided and fought by the irresponsible- just like every single action that has been tried. They want to tank our economy, healthcare, and their lives. If we can preserve the top 2 will letting 3 just happen, that would be great. But they are also using this as the main excuse to make an authoritarian government. (ironically to "prevent" authoritarian actions to keep people alive through the pandemic).
At this point, let them attempt, we can rebuild on our own and leave them behind- just like their leaders want them to be.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
If there's anything that highlights how poorly the US has handled this pandemic especially as a country that should be able to take a temporary financial hit were it not for Republican leadership...
Flying into the Philippines and Thailand requires right now a host of items. Into Thailand requires a negative test within 72 hours of departure, proof of vax, a contact tracing app with an active profile, a booked 1-day hotel quarantine and a prepaid test upon arrival (quarantine is extended of testing negative), a 30-day insurance policy for non-citizens and signing up for what's called a Thai Pass. Into the Philippines is mostly similar except for now the required quarantine is 4 nights and we already have health insurance here. To fly into the US you need a pacifier.
20% of the Thai GDP relies upon tourism and they've shut it down nearly 100% since March, 2020 only opening it up a few weeks ago. The Philippines relies slightly less upon tourism but has been hurt by the lack of business expansion that was previously coming from Japan, South Korea and China.
Flying into the Philippines and Thailand requires right now a host of items. Into Thailand requires a negative test within 72 hours of departure, proof of vax, a contact tracing app with an active profile, a booked 1-day hotel quarantine and a prepaid test upon arrival (quarantine is extended of testing negative), a 30-day insurance policy for non-citizens and signing up for what's called a Thai Pass. Into the Philippines is mostly similar except for now the required quarantine is 4 nights and we already have health insurance here. To fly into the US you need a pacifier.
20% of the Thai GDP relies upon tourism and they've shut it down nearly 100% since March, 2020 only opening it up a few weeks ago. The Philippines relies slightly less upon tourism but has been hurt by the lack of business expansion that was previously coming from Japan, South Korea and China.
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MichVandal
Well-known member
To add to that, we had more than enough taxable income to pay for the people who could not work. Not for the leaders, but for the people who actually do the work. R's are afraid of that because it's artificial money going into the economy- but given the billions of profits that some made because of the pandemic- they could afford to pay it back to people who are still barely recovering.
dumpy turned the pandemic from a health-science issue to a political one that almost resulted in him forcing a coup. And it's still going on because of greed fostering fear. Just look at the number of attempts jebbers makes to murder people on this board, let alone the number of anti- any action leaders there are out there. We are getting deaths because that's what people want to happen. Pretty sad.
So what we *really* need to figure out is how to preserve ourselves and the system and just let them do what they want- die. Insurance companies need to get the balls to stop paying for treatment of the unvaccinated- or at least try to recover the lost money from the stupid. Charge more for any leader telling people to not get vaccines or do alternative treatments- it's costing us all money for their stances. Can we at least get them to pay up?
The only way this ends is if the greedy drivers get really hit financially. That will change behavior.
rufus
rock and roller
The really effective measure would be if those elected officials deliberately blocking safety meausres or spreading disinformation, getting their own constituents killed as a result, would pay some sort of penalty at the ballot box.
Unfortunately, vast amounts of the American public are too stupid to do that. It seems they don't mind their elected leaders trying to kill them. Well, I mean, as long as they have a 'R' after their name.
Unfortunately, vast amounts of the American public are too stupid to do that. It seems they don't mind their elected leaders trying to kill them. Well, I mean, as long as they have a 'R' after their name.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Maybe they want their relatives dead. Ever met any?
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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