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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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Also, kind of interesting. During a division-wide meeting today, the chat was filled with anti-vax questions and how to accommodate religious exemptions. I hope my company has a list of recognized regions that have long held beliefs about medicine. JWs, Christian Scientists, etc.

I'm also wondering if the company is going to tell them fine, we're canceling your health coverage because you don't believe in medicine. (They won't, but that's the offer they should make.)
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Also, kind of interesting. During a division-wide meeting today, the chat was filled with anti-vax questions and how to accommodate religious exemptions. I hope my company has a list of recognized regions that have long held beliefs about medicine. JWs, Christian Scientists, etc.

I'm also wondering if the company is going to tell them fine, we're canceling your health coverage because you don't believe in medicine. (They won't, but that's the offer they should make.)
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This whole deal is gonna make for quite an economic roller coaster for a hot second...

Lots of people at my place of work talking about how they are "out the door" the second a vaccine is required (they seem to be willfully ignorant to the fact that the vaccine is not required to keep employment, only weekly testing is). Since my job regularly turns over 90% of the 4-5 new people they bring in each week within the first year, it's gonna make things interesting when it comes time to call the bet.

And this begs the larger question: How many people are "all in" on the Anti-Vax bandwagon and will give up their job? I mean, very few people can go an extended time with no income. How many R's live paycheck to paycheck. What's gonna happen when they are asked to buy into COBRA with COVID still raging?

And then there is the actual business side of things: Can companies deal with a 10-20% (larger in DERP-y areas?) workforce loss almost instantaneously? Will people be willing to fill the roles at current pay rates? Do supply chains hold up? They already are on shaky ground in many cases.

Having seen the stupidity of the last 5 years, I am gonna be "pearl clutching" with this. It's gonna be a bumpy 12-18 months upcoming.
 
The news here showed a website of smaller companies who will not require vaccines. So *some* of those fools may find jobs. I'm pretty certain that none of those small companies will also offer healthcare. And since vaccine is not a pre-existing condition, it's a choice, then the open market healthcare companies can charge more for coverage- noting the cost data of dealing with unvaxord sick people.

But seeing the pretty high population of people who are vaccinated, and there's going to be a decent chunk who will probably get it- the ones who are petulant children may end up being pretty small.
 
MichVandal said:
The news here showed a website of smaller companies who will not require vaccines. So *some* of those fools may find jobs. I'm pretty certain that none of those small companies will also offer healthcare. And since vaccine is not a pre-existing condition, it's a choice, then the open market healthcare companies can charge more for coverage- noting the cost data of dealing with unvaxord sick people.

But seeing the pretty high population of people who are vaccinated, and there's going to be a decent chunk who will probably get it- the ones who are petulant children may end up being pretty small.
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In the grand scheme of things, yea, 10% of the population when all is said and done. But I do think this will be an interesting watch in "blue collar" areas like my area of employment (logistics/cold storage) or what WEAreND has to deal with.
 
I think it's going to push the covidiots significantly deeper into the working class. Those families have a generation, give or take, left if they refuse to join the rest of society. They'll be bled dry and they'll have nothing left.

Turmoil in the short term, much stronger as a society longer term. The biggest companies will adapt just fine.
 
RaceBoarder said:
And this begs the larger question: How many people are "all in" on the Anti-Vax bandwagon and will give up their job? I mean, very few people can go an extended time with no income. How many R's live paycheck to paycheck. What's gonna happen when they are asked to buy into COBRA with COVID still raging?
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Boo hoo. They’ll be living (what they’ve been telling us is) the easy life, collecting those free government checks without a care in the world. That’s how welfare works, right?
 
MichVandal said:
The news here showed a website of smaller companies who will not require vaccines. So *some* of those fools may find jobs. I'm pretty certain that none of those small companies will also offer healthcare. And since vaccine is not a pre-existing condition, it's a choice, then the open market healthcare companies can charge more for coverage- noting the cost data of dealing with unvaxord sick people.

But seeing the pretty high population of people who are vaccinated, and there's going to be a decent chunk who will probably get it- the ones who are petulant children may end up being pretty small.
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I work for a medium sized company and they’re more than willing to hire unvaccinated people. They think it will help get more people through the door but I think it’s penny wise pound foolish.

One thing that I’m going to be interested to see play out is shortage of essential goods and services. It seems like almost overnight(it’s really a crisis 20+ years in the making) we have run out of housing and cars are really tough right now as well due to the chip shortage. I’ve noticed at the grocery store a lot of stuff is out of stock as well. Covid is likely going to make healthcare and education that much tough/expensive too.
 
Drew S. said:
I work for a medium sized company and they’re more than willing to hire unvaccinated people. They think it will help get more people through the door but I think it’s penny wise pound foolish.

One thing that I’m going to be interested to see play out is shortage of essential goods and services. It seems like almost overnight(it’s really a crisis 20+ years in the making) we have run out of housing and cars are really tough right now as well due to the chip shortage. I’ve noticed at the grocery store a lot of stuff is out of stock as well. Covid is likely going to make healthcare and education that much tough/expensive too.
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For the latter, I'm hoping that business actually learn the flaws of their system, and fix it. But that would mean companies look really long term, and assume that interruptions actually will happen. The very delicate supply chain needs to be fixed, including diversifying where stuff comes from. Maybe the US auto industry can get chips made in the USA, like we were when I started my career 30 years ago.

There are always flaws in the rush to the bottom of the cost.
 
MichVandal said:
For the latter, I'm hoping that business actually learn the flaws of their system, and fix it. But that would mean companies look really long term, and assume that interruptions actually will happen. The very delicate supply chain needs to be fixed, including diversifying where stuff comes from. Maybe the US auto industry can get chips made in the USA, like we were when I started my career 30 years ago.

There are always flaws in the rush to the bottom of the cost.
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The factory in Indiana where GM is currently parking their "Built Shy" pickup trucks awaiting chips was once a former chip factory for GM until they offshore'd their manufacturing.
 
aparch said:
The factory in Indiana where GM is currently parking their "Built Shy" pickup trucks awaiting chips was once a former chip factory for GM until they offshore'd their manufacturing.
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I'm sure the irony is missed by Mary.

We did the same thing, removing the electronics part of our company about 25 years ago, and since then, they have shrunk over time. And now we are stuck with too many single sources that are not on this continent. Hardly shocking that we also have thousands of vehicles waiting for computers.
 
I see some R's in Michigan congress are trying to prevent any covid related actions- including masking and vaccine mandates. Might as well remove all drunk driving laws, so that people can make their own personal choices without regard to the rest of the state.

Seems like that should just be the easy challenge- if they want to prevent all actions related to covid, should we also just eliminate all drunk driving laws, since they cost society so much less- fewer deaths, fewer hospitalizations, less burden on insurance companies, etc.
 
Handyman said:
Is that why Jim Breuer was trending?
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I always mix him up with John Byner. But John Byner was cool and one of the great bar bets of all time:

He was cast in Happy Days as Mork from Ork but found the premise ridiculous, so he declined the role days before filming began. Robin Williams was called in at the last minute
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Health minister of Trinidad and Tobago had to address the Nikki Minaj enlarged balls claim.

Jfc
 
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