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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020
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OK but are there reports of people dying as a result of the vaccine? Or even severe side effects linked to it?
The Sicatoka
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I started that post with "Good/Bad". Yes, I led with caveat emptor. I led with "unreviewed work by Carnegie Mellon and U of Pittsburgh".
I'm sorry that misled you.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
However, anaphylactic reactions do not mean death follows. (Possible, but definitely not probable.)
Science article from January.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...id-19-vaccine-trigger-rare-allergic-reactions
Lawyers manage risk. Why some companies mandate and others do not more than likely involves the perceived risks through the eyes of corporate counsel.
Handyman
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That doesn't go far enough. It is one thing if Jimbob at Dominos doesn't want to get the vaccine but if health care workers dont want it you take them away from all patients. They can do remote work filling prescriptions for antibiotics whenever someone gets the sniffles.
You cannot allow the unvaxed to deal with patients the risk is just too damned high.
Handyman
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Maybe it would be best not to post non-reviewed data.
Do you know what separates a college from a business? Because at least in MA, many schools are requiring the vaccine. Or is there no separation and it just depends on how your lawyers are interpreting the law?
rufus
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But then how would he be able to play "gotcha"?
The Sicatoka
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Or post it with clear statement of its unreviewed status. Like I did.
The Sicatoka
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I thought this sophisticated group would understand "not reviewed" and as I also said take the Carnegie/UPitt data "with a grain of salt".
The Sicatoka
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There has to be a great one-liner there somewhere. :*)
In relation to this discussion we're having, again, probably risk tolerance separates a college from a business.
Rufus is the unsophisticated wannabe bouncer of the group
Did he or she say whether the employees were medical professionals, Hovey, or did they include housekeeping, dietary, CNAs, etc? If so, the number means much less, IMO. On the other hand, if it includes docs, nurses, NPs, PAs,etc., it would be interesting to know some of the "why."
He didn't break it down, but I assumed it was heavy on jobs like housekeeping, maintenance, etc..., as opposed to the docs. On the other hand, and knowing what I know about the Mayo Clinic (which is pretty much one of the most overbearing employers on the planet), I found it a bit surprising that Mayo hadn't simply lined up their employees and stuck the needle in them, whether they wanted it or not.
My friend did tell me a story about an unnamed "colleague" who was in his mid-fifties who refused. My friend said he kept pestering this guy about getting it, in a friendly sort of way, because he was worried about him. About three months ago the guy got Covid, ended up on a ventilator for something like seven weeks, and somehow survived the ordeal, but is pretty gorked at this point. My friend says he just saw the guy for the first time a couple of weeks ago and all they guy would say is, "Well, yeah...."
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Well she was right she had nothing to fear from the virus.
How many more of these until we notice the uptick in national IQ? 2 million? 4?
How many more of these until we notice the uptick in national IQ? 2 million? 4?
The number of motorcyclists killed in Sturgis every year, or on the way to or from Sturgis, is pretty crazy.
On the other hand, given that they are driving motorcycles, probably not.
Russell Jaslow
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I'm always surprised how many people die at that huge ballooning festival in New Mexico.
The Sicatoka
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If we follow the UK pattern, what comes after Covid Delta variant?
RSV. <-- Not good.
This source, while not NYT or WaPo or CNN, has an impressive list of sponsors/contributors (scroll to bottom).
RSV. <-- Not good.
This source, while not NYT or WaPo or CNN, has an impressive list of sponsors/contributors (scroll to bottom).
The Sicatoka
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Too much of the Sturgis crowd is infrequent FatBoy* riders going on their summer wannabe biker adventure. Highly skilled cyclists they are not (and I know a few). Me? I gave up donor-cycles in my late teens.
*Am I referring to the bike, ... or the rider. In this singular case, MichVandal may attempt to read my mind. :*)
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So RSV isn't new but the concern is kids haven't been able to build their immune system because they have been wearing masks and have not been subjected to more minor illnesses? Want to make sure I understand what is being said here. The % of hospitalization isn't going up, is it?
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