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Grand Unified Election Thread 2: What is the difference between Biden and Dump?

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rufus said:
It's not to "save the company". it's to provide it with some operating liquidity.

With the amount of outstanding shares these companies have been spending the last 20 years buying up so the CEO can keep getting huge bonuses, I think they can manage.

If they need to do it to save the company, one, I doubt they have many shareholders left, and two, no one's gonna buy it anyway. Unless it's someone like Bain, who'll squeeze every dollar out of it that they can before discarding the worthless husk. .
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Right, when it comes to saving the company, that's for bonds. That's how Ford managed to survive in 2006/07 when they took out a multi billion dollar loan against the F150 and the Ford Oval.

Stock buy back by a company should be illegal, as all that does is prop up the price in a non-business manner- which helps the share holder. And a large amount of the high end shares are the BOD and the upper parts of corporations.

Bail outs because of external factors has it's place. But in this case, the economic problem isn't caused by some bad happening that some other economic sector forced (what happened in '08 to the auto makers) - this case is more a universal pause for some that can easily be taken up by the government via direct payments.

Directly pay people to stay home. Done. Keeps the bare minimum of the economy moving and people manage to eat and have a roof over their heads. That's how many of the EU did it.
 
Kepler said:
That's not how it works.

What will happen is it will bifurcate into two con factions -- the Psychos and the Really Really Psychos -- which will then scream at and demonize each other forever.

That's how it works.
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Except that it is how it works because it already did I believe with Gab. Conservative Pols and "celebrities" frequented there up until the Pittsburgh Synagogue shooter posted stuff there about killing Jews then did it. The Cons needed to keep it alive fled back to Twitter. The crazies stayed until Parler.

Parler dies if the Pols and Influencers leave. The crazies won't be enough.
 
Handyman said:
It also bans bots but it appears they are finding ways in. The Parler TOS is there to cya they hardly enforce anything. The best is the hashtag spamming.
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I assumed (naively?) that bots were banned from all sites and by all providers. That bots are, by definition, vandalism if not breaking and entering.

Is this false? Are bots actually explicitly not banned by some SM sites and some ISPs?

I just assumed it was against the rules, if not actually illegal, to spam the internet.
 
Well yeah...but for example on Twitter they need to be reported a certain number of times to be banned. The ability to sign up for an account is easy. Everything is fine until you get caught too many times. (much like here) It is passive resistance not active. Hell even after bots are caught en masse they often get to stick around because Twitter takes forever to look into reports and do purges. (cant speak for Facebook)

Parler IIRC was supposed to be much easier to get rid of them and I think was supposed to be actively moderating against them.
 
Kepler said:
I assumed (naively?) that bots were banned from all sites and by all providers. That bots are, by definition, vandalism if not breaking and entering.

Is this false? Are bots actually explicitly not banned by some SM sites and some ISPs?

I just assumed it was against the rules, if not actually illegal, to spam the internet.
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Thousands of legit useful bots on Twitter. Thread Unroller, for one.
 
MichVandal said:
Back in the good old days, when we had real law and order, these two would be going to jail.
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This country is more lawless now than it has been in my lifetime. And it isn't even close. If only the law and order politicians actually cared about making the most dangerous criminals follow the law. The people who have gotten rich violating labor, finance and environmental laws have done far more damage and hurt far more people than the people out there committing the typical rapes, murders, robberies and batteries.

The next time some law and order politician wants to put 100,000 more cops on the streets, I'll go along for the ride if the cops are the ones who work for the NLRB or EPA or FTC and they want to lock up some REAL criminals.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Oh good. They found a picture of Warnock at a Castro rally, front and center.
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Meh. If he was running in Flo(R)ida I would be more worried about that. Hell if he was running against Perdue I would be more worried about that. Loeffler is so hated by the Parler crowd I am not sure it will have the same effect.
 
Did I hear right they are going to investigate Hunter Bidens taxes?

You know if Republicans had spent as much time on COVID as they waste on Bidens family and Trumps coup we wouldn't be the laughingstock of the world.
 
https://twitter.com/marceelias/statu...87195056046081

BREAKING: Wisconsin federal court DISMISSES last Kraken case. "Federal judges do not appoint the president in this county."
It began with 4 Kraken:
It has ended with none:
Trump and his allies are 1-55 in post-election litigation.
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edit: The Court didn't really mince words:

The election that preceded this lawsuit was emotional and often divisive. The pleadings that have been filed over the past week are passionate and urgent. People have strong, deep feelings about the right to vote, the freedom and opportunity to vote and the value of their vote. They should. But the legal question at the heart of this case is simple. Federal courts have limited jurisdiction. Does a federal court have the jurisdiction and authority to grant the relief this lawsuit seeks? The answer is no.

Federal judges do not appoint the president in this country. One wonders why the plaintiffs came to federal court and asked a federal judge to do so. After a week of sometimes odd and often harried litigation, the court is no closer to answering the “why.” But this federal court has no authority or jurisdiction to grant the relief the remaining plaintiff seeks. The court will dismiss the case.
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It goes on but that is about as simple as it gets.
 
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Handyman said:
Did I hear right they are going to investigate Hunter Bidens taxes?

You know if Republicans had spent as much time on COVID as they waste on Bidens family and Trumps coup we wouldn't be the laughingstock of the world.
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They have been since 2018.
 
Handyman said:
Did I hear right they are going to investigate Hunter Bidens taxes?

You know if Republicans had spent as much time on COVID as they waste on Bidens family and Trumps coup we wouldn't be the laughingstock of the world.
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I am 100% confident that a seemingly shady character like Hunter Biden did some likely shady stuff, but a couple of key points:
  • I doubt very strongly that it would ever even be noticed if Joe Biden were not President-elect, or that the DOJ would ever have investigated if Trump weren't the most petty human being alive.
  • I just don't even care.
When Biden is sworn in, his new AG will likely bury or broom the investigation in a manner that wraps it up and puts it to bed, where it belongs. This is much ado about nothing.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Meh, as long as Air Force one is ready for Biden in DC by noon on Inauguration Day, trump can do whatever he wants. But he doesn’t get to fly out of DC on Inauguration Day using AF1.

And I hope Biden tells him to get bent
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There are two "Air Force One" planes. 28000 and 29000.

The moment Biden starts "I do solemnly swear..." Air Force One, if it has Trump on board, becomes "SAM 2[8/9]000."
 
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