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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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alfablue said:
Given the educational disparities in this country- that's got to be the dumbest idea of all time.

Smart, but uneducated, people will never be able to vote to improve the education system they are being allotted.
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Good to know those of us with grad degrees in public health who had to take the gmat are too dumb to get a vote
 
Also, I think talk of voting requirements reeks of the same elite snobbery that the Qidiots constantly complain about, and only ends up scaring off more people.

Plus, many people still have memories of poll taxes and this isn't that much different than those.
 
So I saw this in a tweet and can't be bothered to locate it, but this hit the nail squarely on the head.

If the recent (or expected) shutdowns have substantially changed how you've been living for the past few months, then you are part of the problem.


I couldn't agree more. I'm not talking about going out to dinner once in a while. I'm talking about gyms, indoor dining regularly, parties, etc.
 
Swansong said:
Most likely, as the out-of-power party nearly always loses seats in that first midterm election.
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You reversed that. The President's party almost always loses House seats in the midterms.

The way the math looks the chambers may both swap at the midterm which would be weird AF. It hasn't happened very often.
 
Kepler said:
You reversed that. The President's party almost always loses House seats in the midterms.

The way the math looks the chambers may both swap at the midterm which would be weird AF. It hasn't happened very often.
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Or things could actually get better and voters will reward good leadership. Crazy thought, I know, but it could happen.
 
Bronco said:
Or things could actually get better and voters will reward good leadership. Crazy thought, I know, but it could happen.
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I'm hoping the Biden administration brings much needed competency to the pandemic response, we get it under control, and have a successful vaccination effort and a return to some semblance of normalcy just in time for the mid-term campaigns. The GOP won't be able to run on "but mah freedumbs!!!"
 
alfablue said:
I'm not sure I would go that far.

We used to go out to dinner a lot, we used to go to movies a LOT (members of a local theater), and used to cruise somewhere around 30 days a year. All of that are useful consumer industries, which is the core of our economy. While we can deal with not going and doing all of that, the people who built their lives around supplying that are suffering.

The only part of our economy that I have been questioning for a long time is the "Healthcare" industry. Not the providers, but the money launderers that instruct me where I can spend my money. An industry who's main goal is to make keep as much money as possible WRT people's health is questionable in terms of morality.

All other entertainment is fine.

Our lives have been substantially changed in the last few months, but we can wait. I don't see us as part of the problem.
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I interpreted Swan's comment (or the tweet he was referencing) to mean if you have recently changed the way you've been behaving the last few months, then you are part of the problem, not if you've changed the way you live since the pandemic started.
 
SJHovey said:
I interpreted Swan's comment (or the tweet he was referencing) to mean if you have recently changed the way you've been behaving the last few months, then you are part of the problem, not if you've changed the way you live since the pandemic started.
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Yeah that’s how I read it too
 
alfablue said:
Our lives have been substantially changed in the last few months, but we can wait. I don't see us as part of the problem.
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That was the point.

The people who have been living their lives the past few months just as they had this time last year, whose lifestyle has not changed at all despite the presence of this pandemic, are part of the problem. The people who are going to have 25 people over for Thanksgiving just as they do every year, are part of the problem.

They are why this virus has become as widespread in this country as it has.
 
alfablue said:
Fair enough.

But what about the people who have worked their way back into operation, safely, and now have to re-close? It's possible that there are responsible restaurant owners out there who have gotten back to operating safely and surviving only to have much of that taken away.
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Yeah, I wasn't intending to comment one way or the other on the tweet, or whether I agree with it's rather broad indictment. I just read his post differently than you did with respect to when people made the change in the way they live.
 
rufus said:
That was the point.

The people who have been living their lives the past few months just as they had this time last year, whose lifestyle has not changed at all despite the presence of this pandemic, are part of the problem. The people who are going to have 25 people over for Thanksgiving just as they do every year, are part of the problem.

They are why this virus has become as widespread in this country as it has.
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They’re not part of the problem, they are the problem. The sacrifices we have been asked to make are incredibly minor and yet people can’t handle them. It disgusts me to no end.
 
Kepler said:
You reversed that. The President's party almost always loses House seats in the midterms.

The way the math looks the chambers may both swap at the midterm which would be weird AF. It hasn't happened very often.
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Fair enough, I stand corrected. That was what I meant, but you're more specific and more accurate.
 
Drew S. said:
They’re not part of the problem, they are the problem. The sacrifices we have been asked to make are incredibly minor and yet people can’t handle them. It disgusts me to no end.
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Well, you don't want to register your guns either, or take them away from people who are mentally incapable of caring for themselves, so I'd think you'd understand where they're coming from.
 
For clarification - I did mean recent lifestyle.

And I feel for those caught up and looking at loss of income/business. I feel awful but the blame for that lands squarely on our federal government's absolute abdication of duty. Trump got bored of COVID in April and there was no further interest in doing anything at that level. And now as several states force some businesses to close again, there's no additional financial help for them - states are out of money and the Federal government is pretending 2020 is not 2020.
 
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