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What will replace collegehockeystats.net?

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Ralph Slate

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I was saddened to see that the longtime website collegehockeystats.net will not be updating going forward. I never new the specifics of their arrangement with the various conferences, but they were clearly the as-official-as-can-be source for all college hockey conferences, divisions, and sexes.

Does anyone know if there will be an official unified system replacing them, or is this going to be the end of real-time publication of the lesser conferences and women's hockey?
 
As someone who visits that website seemingly every day during the season, I would also be interested in a replacement.

RIP. It was super bare-bones, but I really loved that place. It was invaluable when I was trying to get scores on my first flip phone.
 
It was so lightweight technically that it loaded super fast. No graphics, ads, or other things to slow it down. For a broadcaster, it was invaluable as I could quickly locate either current stats or look up history very quickly.

I heard last season that the NCAA was putting together a replacement, and working with CHS to do it. Hope that comes to fruition and the NCAA doesn't screw it up too much.
 
Terrible news!
I have counted on CHstats forever as a reliable sources of info across all levels of our game!
The best site out there. Would willingly have paid for it but was never asked. Now it is gone?
Devastating!
 
The challenge, which collegehockeystats solved, is that very often, the conferences don't care about anything other than the conference stats, and there is no "NCAA-wide" statistical computation. Each team may do it separately.

This is what happens with the Canadian University teams. It's really hard to find overall stats for their conferences.

I'm worried that without a unified system, the D3 conferences/teams won't publish much of anything. MASCAC, for example, just linked to collegehockeystats.
 
NCAA & College Hockey Stats worked together to use the webpage as a complete database of each season and the sports recent history. SID's were required to upload StatCrew files to the site after each game - but with the NCAA's transition away from StatCrew to LiveStats they must feel they can do a better job. So no fear, there will be a replacement - whether it is as clean and easy to use as CHS.net I cannot say, but would tend to doubt.

It will likely be on this site, that is in use for so many other NCAA Sports - https://stats.ncaa.org/

EDIT - in fact, Ice Hockey is already listed in the drop down menu with stats available back to 2009-10...
 
My concern is what’s going to happen to all the historical stats? They went back to the mid-90s at least, for every school, every conference, every level, every gender. Whenever I needed to research something, finding the stats was the least of my concerns.

And to echo Ralph, a majority of D3 schools and conferences simply pointed to CHS. Including all their historical stats.
 
The website www.hockeydb.com is "useable" for D-I men's individual player stats. However it is really focused on pro hockey so for the college stats in many cases the team name search doesn't work, player numbers are missing in the database, etc. For example if you search by team, you can't find some entire teams. But if you know a player who played for that team you can look up the player and then backdoor your way into the team's stats and other players on that team.
 
Dan said:
NCAA & College Hockey Stats worked together to use the webpage as a complete database of each season and the sports recent history. SID's were required to upload StatCrew files to the site after each game - but with the NCAA's transition away from StatCrew to LiveStats they must feel they can do a better job. So no fear, there will be a replacement - whether it is as clean and easy to use as CHS.net I cannot say, but would tend to doubt.

It will likely be on this site, that is in use for so many other NCAA Sports - https://stats.ncaa.org/

EDIT - in fact, Ice Hockey is already listed in the drop down menu with stats available back to 2009-10...
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But I can't find a way to pull down individual box scores from stats.ncaa.org. Did I miss a pull down area?
 
joecct said:
But I can't find a way to pull down individual box scores from stats.ncaa.org. Did I miss a pull down area?
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If I go to team statistics and choose a team - I see box scores back to the 2015-16 season (at least for the first and only team I clicked on). The box scores look awful though.

CHS was perfect - the NCAA site is far from it. I’m just guessing they’ll pull hockey stats entirely under their umbrella, maybe they have something else in mind. If they do, I think you’ll find all the same information, but I doubt it will be as user friendly...

https://stats.ncaa.org/contests/262183/box_score
 
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The way it was described to me, the site and all its data will remain up, it will just not be updated moving forward.

Who knows for how long…
 
I have been asking around, and the situation does not appear to be very good. As referenced above by Dan, the teams are all required to use the NCAA site. However that site doesn't appear to have many key things:
  • No conference/school schedules or results other than a page that shows the results for a particular day.
  • No roster information with vitals/last team. Just names.
  • No boxscores.
  • No assistant/associate/goalie coach info. Just head coach.
  • No conference standings.
  • It is also very difficult to find the scoring by team - an example of one team is here, and is very messy because it co-mingles skater and goalie stats.
It also looks like there will be no information on exhibition games with non-NCAA teams (such as Canadian University or USHL).

It seems like at least some conferences may keep their own stats, but I would expect only the stronger D1 conferences to do that. Seems like for D3, information will be very hard to come by.
 
While hockeydb and elitehockeyprospects offer value in looking up players, collegehockeystats has been invaluable over the years as the most thorough place to get stats across all teams and rosters. I sense in reading this site that the site and old details will remain just no new information posted. Quite the loss for everyone, while the NCAA may have their own site too bad they cannot share the information and have collegehockeystats continue as it really has been a tremendous resource over the years.
 
So far, the NCAA site is absolute garbage. The schedule isn't even correct, and it keeps changing by the hour, with games showing up and dropping off. They had the BC/AIC game listed on both BC and AIC's schedule pages, and then it all disappeared. I'm not sure if it's because the games are exhibition games, and were initially entered as not exhibition - it's really impossible to tell.

I don't see how this is considered progress.
 
Missed collegehockeystats last night in the first night of games, no site had the accurate info you used to get there during games.
Looking back at what a great job they did all these years. Feel bad for the D3 fans, there are a few sites that cater to D1 that give you
some semblance of a collegehockeystats replacement, not certain where D3 fans will go.
 
Ralph Slate said:
So far, the NCAA site is absolute garbage. The schedule isn't even correct, and it keeps changing by the hour, with games showing up and dropping off. They had the BC/AIC game listed on both BC and AIC's schedule pages, and then it all disappeared. I'm not sure if it's because the games are exhibition games, and were initially entered as not exhibition - it's really impossible to tell.

I don't see how this is considered progress.
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Agree with the larger point - for all of the money poured into College Hockey Inc., you'd think promotion by having basic stats in a central place would be important. Maybe they were just caught flat footed and are in the process of doing so.

On the AIC/BC game, for example, its an exhibition game, so the stats do not count. I see for example you include the Bemidji and North Dakota stats, and those are not official and will not be counted in any statistical record. Same with the AIC/BC game. This year is just a bit more confusing because the exhibitions in the past were against Canadian teams, so more clearly not counted, while this seems like it could be a regular game.

Are you using APIs to pull in data?
 
College Hockey Inc is only focused on Division 1 men, so that is incredibly limiting. But beyond that, I source from what is deemed "official" - collegehockeystats.net was not precisely official, but since the teams were all submitting to them, they were de-facto official. Now it seems like the NCAA site is the most official thing out there. From what I have heard, there may be another system in place, but I don't have API access to anything.

Things seemed to settle down overnight a bit, but their site is not at all consistent, likely due to exhibition games - which don't seem to be marked in any way, nor are games marked as having divisional impact or not. I assume RPI/Union was exhibition, but the game shows on both team's schedules, no score has been reported for it though. That differs from the BC/AIC game which is showing on the overall scoreboard, but not on either BC or Union's schedules. Canisius and Niagara show up with player stats on the NCAA site, but the Atlantic Hockey site says that it was an exhibition game. Same goes for Mercyhurst/VT.

Even the CCHA seems confused, they are showing MSU as playing 2 games in the standings even though they only played one. NCHA seems to not even be publishing their own standings, relying on a feed from college hockey news. It seems very likely that it will not be possible to see the D3 standings for most conferences.
 
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