FadeToBlack&Gold
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Good rule to follow? Or job-hopping folly.
Discuss.
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Useless Offseason Poll #1: "2 Years - Up or Out"
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Re: Useless Offseason Poll #1: "2 Years - Up or Out"
I lean towards too soon. But, I've always been loyal as a dog. It has burned me. Definitely can be a fatal flaw. Part of it might be me truly hitting the job market late 2007. I'm a bit gunshy with the whole employment thing.
I lean towards too soon. But, I've always been loyal as a dog. It has burned me. Definitely can be a fatal flaw. Part of it might be me truly hitting the job market late 2007. I'm a bit gunshy with the whole employment thing.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Kettle Medallion
Re: Useless Offseason Poll #1: "2 Years - Up or Out"
I brought it up because now that I'm in consulting, I hear this a lot. Having been here about 15 months, I'm already in the 25th percentile for seniority across the entire firm of 400,000+.
Personally, I think "loyalty" matters less and less nowadays, but unless I was truly unhappy, I doubt I'd leave a position before the 2-year mark unless a legitimate promotion opportunity came up.
I was at my last employer for 5 years, but I intermittently sought better roles from the third year on, because I knew I was plateauing and needed a big company on my resume that wasn't automotive (though my 5 years were not at Ford - I was with an up-and-coming managed IT services company in Detroit prior to this).
I brought it up because now that I'm in consulting, I hear this a lot. Having been here about 15 months, I'm already in the 25th percentile for seniority across the entire firm of 400,000+.
Personally, I think "loyalty" matters less and less nowadays, but unless I was truly unhappy, I doubt I'd leave a position before the 2-year mark unless a legitimate promotion opportunity came up.
I was at my last employer for 5 years, but I intermittently sought better roles from the third year on, because I knew I was plateauing and needed a big company on my resume that wasn't automotive (though my 5 years were not at Ford - I was with an up-and-coming managed IT services company in Detroit prior to this).
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Useless Offseason Poll #1: "2 Years - Up or Out"
Bacon.
It depends entirely on the industry. In mine it's understood that the only way a contractor can get a substantial raise is hopping between companies, because once in you're in you're in a pipeline. It comes of having too many military and government types in charge who bring their pay scales with them.
I hopped three times in my first four years in the biz, and then burrowed in and am now in year 12 with the same title and same company, humming along at 2.5% crappy annual raises. It doesn't matter because on the third hop I scored an enormous raise and just live off that base now.
When I hire in this industry I don't take jumps into consideration unless they're crazy extreme -- like hopping every 6 months. That would be a red flag.
But in my prior life on the left coast in a different industry, the standard rule was leaving before 3 years was up was bad, and sticking for 5+ without a huge promotion was also bad.
So it depends.
Bacon.
It depends entirely on the industry. In mine it's understood that the only way a contractor can get a substantial raise is hopping between companies, because once in you're in you're in a pipeline. It comes of having too many military and government types in charge who bring their pay scales with them.
I hopped three times in my first four years in the biz, and then burrowed in and am now in year 12 with the same title and same company, humming along at 2.5% crappy annual raises. It doesn't matter because on the third hop I scored an enormous raise and just live off that base now.
When I hire in this industry I don't take jumps into consideration unless they're crazy extreme -- like hopping every 6 months. That would be a red flag.
But in my prior life on the left coast in a different industry, the standard rule was leaving before 3 years was up was bad, and sticking for 5+ without a huge promotion was also bad.
So it depends.