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University of Hartford men's and women's hockey?

If they're going to do hockey the CCC might be their best primary target. Offerings-wise, the CCC offers every sport U of Hartford currently offers except women's golf (and maybe there's enough CCC women's golf schools who are associate members elsewhere to bring it in-house?). Geographically they'd be the southernmost member of the conference but they're not too far from Nichols, WNEU, Salve and RWU (not a hockey school).

The big question is which conference has enough members to accept them? CCC looks like they have an even number of ten members so they might not have the appetite for them as full members. Perhaps they can be associate members for hockey if they find a home for the other sports?
 
Can some of the sports at Hartford remain DI and the rest move to DIII? I'm not sure of the current rules around this.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
Absolutely not.

The entire program must be in one division. They closed the rule which allowed only one sport to play up.
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To be fair - with the NCAA essentially re-writing what it is or will be this could very well change in the near future. We may not even recognize the NCAA. But Hartford seems pretty clear, they don't want to spend on DI anymore.
 
SNHUPenman said:
To be fair - with the NCAA essentially re-writing what it is or will be this could very well change in the near future. We may not even recognize the NCAA. But Hartford seems pretty clear, they don't want to spend on DI anymore.
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Are you suggesting that the NCAA is basically dismantling the airplane as they are crashing it?
 
UCBadger said:
Are you suggesting that the NCAA is basically dismantling the airplane as they are crashing it?
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Merely suggesting the NCAA (or college sports) may not look anything like what we have come accustomed to in the near future. Never before has so much been up in the air.
 
So they don't want to focus on athletics, are losing tons of money, so they want to start men's and women's hockey programs? What am I missing here?
 
UncleRay said:
So they don't want to focus on athletics, are losing tons of money, so they want to start men's and women's hockey programs? What am I missing here?
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Division III athletes pay to be there, while each Division I athlete costs money, especially if you don't have any donor or fan support.

45 or so hockey players (both genders) paying $15,000 each is $675,000 in tuition money. Just looking at future conference mate UNE, they reported $789,000 in expenses TOTAL for all sports.
 
AMC said:
Division III athletes pay to be there, while each Division I athlete costs money, especially if you don't have any donor or fan support.

45 or so hockey players (both genders) paying $15,000 each is $675,000 in tuition money. Just looking at future conference mate UNE, they reported $789,000 in expenses TOTAL for all sports.
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Correct. Which is also why D3 schools are actually adding football instead of cutting it.
 
AMC said:
Division III athletes pay to be there, while each Division I athlete costs money, especially if you don't have any donor or fan support.

45 or so hockey players (both genders) paying $15,000 each is $675,000 in tuition money. Just looking at future conference mate UNE, they reported $789,000 in expenses TOTAL for all sports.
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15 sounds low. At some private D3s you're paying $30K.
 
geneseo said:
At some it's $60K to 75K or more, though they are increasingly need-blind and dipping into their endowments big time. My daughter's school is that way.
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I think somewhere in the debate over Hartford's drop it was suggested that the average Hartford student only pays $15k-$20k of the $50k sticker price.
 
AMC said:
I think somewhere in the debate over Hartford's drop it was suggested that the average Hartford student only pays $15k-$20k of the $50k sticker price.
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Yep. This is what is allowing the privates to survive, and in some cases thrive, while the publics are often struggling to fill beds. What this means "long term" for the privates' endowments is still to be seen.
 
geneseo said:
Yep. This is what is allowing the privates to survive, and in some cases thrive, while the publics are often struggling to fill beds. What this means "long term" for the privates' endowments is still to be seen.
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I wonder how badly the stock market collapse this year is also hurting those endowments...
 
geneseo said:
Yep. This is what is allowing the privates to survive, and in some cases thrive, while the publics are often struggling to fill beds. What this means "long term" for the privates' endowments is still to be seen.
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I remember reading a while ago that some of the Ivy League schools could spend 1/4 of one percent of their endowments and let every student attend for free. Think about that, for lots of different reasons. Crazy.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
I remember reading a while ago that some of the Ivy League schools could spend 1/4 of one percent of their endowments and let every student attend for free. Think about that, for lots of different reasons. Crazy.
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Their endowments are in the billions. Even a small school like Vassar has an endowment over a billion.
 
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