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Trophy hunting scum

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solovsfett

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I just cannot abide this nonsense. Why do “hunters” in America target Wolves? If we didn’t **** up the ecosystem by killing Wolves, bears and mountain lions, bipedal hunters would be wholly unnecessary.

I want to be the Catcher In The Rye for Wolves, elephants, dolphins, all of them.
 
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Fu**ing disgusting. :mad: :mad: :mad:


I did a couple research papers in HS and college about wolves and how (some) humans misunderstood them and continued the misconceptions to this day. They're intelligent creatures. And like any wild animal, avoid them and they'll avoid you.
 
aparch said:
Fu**ing disgusting. :mad: :mad: :mad:


I did a couple research papers in HS and college about wolves and how (some) humans misunderstood them and continued the misconceptions to this day. They're intelligent creatures. And like any wild animal, avoid them and they'll avoid you.
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Yes. Wolves are an Invaluable part of the North American ecosystem and to be honest if I were hiking in a remote area I would not fear wolves whatsoever unless I had a dog with me. The fear of wolves has always been perplexing to me.

This particular wolf’s morther was also killed by a hunter a few years back.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Wolf and elephant hunting is dumb. The bolded, however, is your opinion and not reality.
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It’s my opinion yes, however if wolf, mountain lion and bear numbers in say Wisconsin were not managed (well dnr still denies mountain lions are back) I suspect they’d flourish and manage our deer (and elk) population in a way that would make deer season superfluous.
 
solovsfett said:
It’s my opinion yes, however if wolf, mountain lion and bear numbers in say Wisconsin were not managed (well dnr still denies mountain lions are back) I suspect they’d flourish and manage our deer (and elk) population in a way that would make deer season superfluous.
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Yeah, and the bevy of deer that live in the cities? Or the livestock that would now need additional protection?

I’ll leave this one up to those in the field.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Yeah, and the bevy of deer that live in the cities? Or the livestock that would now need additional protection?

I’ll leave this one up to those in the field.
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I don’t care about livestock.

Deer in cities would be far less frequent as their numbers would be managed by natural predators. In Wisconsin the dnr manages wolves by having a culling of wolves to keep them at a certain number. You know why? Hunters need to be able to kill deer and elk too. All about the $ not nature.

This is but one reason why humans imo should not attempt to control predator numbers: https://youtu.be/ysa5OBhXz-Q


In Yellowstone the past two years the elk population has collapsed. Wolves suffered and their corresponding numbers have declined as well. Nature balancing itself.
 
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Here's a couple articles showing that wolves killing livestock is rare and killing the wolves themselves is counterproductive:

U.S. Fish and Wildlife reports for those states show that in 2014, wolves killed 136 head of cattle, or 1 cow out of every 44,853. In the same three states, 820,000 sheep live. U.S. Fish and Wildlife reports show that in 2014, wolves killed 114 sheep, or 1 in every 7,193.

https://www.livingwithwolves.org/portfolio/are-wolves-killing-lots-of-cattle-and-sheep/

From Smithsonian: Killing Wolves Actually Leads to More Livestock Deaths

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...ctually-leads-more-livestock-death-180953605/
 
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I realize the law means nothing to you lefties, but if you are going to be mad at someone, be mad at the people who made the law and are in charge of “managing” wildlife”. The hunter was within the law.
I wonder what your reaction would be if a predator took your dog, your child, or you. Coyotes take dogs, mountain lions take people, as do bears, and even wolves. How would you like to be mauled and eaten alive by a bear? How would you like a mountain lion to jump on your back and put his mouth around your neck or a wolf pack rip you apart while allive?
As the range of wolves increases interactions between wolves and people and their pets will increase. Wolves are taking dogs, how long do you think it will be before they take kids and eventually adults? It is a changed world from 1800. If you sissies are willing to let a predator take your dog or your kid, then fine, let’s protect predators. If not, then we’ll have to allow people to hunt them.
 
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pokechecker said:
I realize the law means nothing to you lefties, but if you are going to be mad at someone, be mad at the people who made the law and are in charge of “managing” wildlife”. The hunter was within the law.
I wonder what your reaction would be if a predator took your dog, your child, or you. Coyotes take dogs, mountain lions take people, as do bears, and even wolves. How would you like to be mauled and eaten alive by a bear? How would you like a mountain lion to jump on your back and put his mouth around your neck or a wolf pack rip you apart while allive?
As the range of wolves increases interactions between wolves and people and their pets will increase. Wolves are taking dogs, how long do you think it will be before they take kids and eventually adults? It is a changed world from 1800. If you sissies are willing to let a predator take your dog or your kid, then fine, let’s protect predators. If not, then we’ll have to allow people to hunt them.
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it must suck to live your life so scared of everything
 
pokechecker said:
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Then don't live where the wildlife will eat you. Or, if you do live where the wildlife can eat you, be aware. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I grew up on a half section of rural Michigan farm and wilderness. I wasn't gripped with fear that a bear, wolf, coyote, cougar, or whatever else was going to eat me for playing in the back 40.
 
pokechecker said:
I realize the law means nothing to you lefties, but if you are going to be mad at someone, be mad at the people who made the law and are in charge of “managing” wildlife”. The hunter was within the law.
I wonder what your reaction would be if a predator took your dog, your child, or you. Coyotes take dogs, mountain lions take people, as do bears, and even wolves. How would you like to be mauled and eaten alive by a bear? How would you like a mountain lion to jump on your back and put his mouth around your neck or a wolf pack rip you apart while allive?
As the range of wolves increases interactions between wolves and people and their pets will increase. Wolves are taking dogs, how long do you think it will be before they take kids and eventually adults? It is a changed world from 1800. If you sissies are willing to let a predator take your dog or your kid, then fine, let’s protect predators. If not, then we’ll have to allow people to hunt them.
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Wow. Find me one article that reports a wild wolf or pack attacking a human where rabies was not involved. Wolves fear humans and with good reason.
Wolves just don’t attack people unless the circumstance may be rabies, or you surprise a pack with young ones to protect.

In Alaska, yes wolves have killed dogs like they kill coyotes because they consider them competition.

However that is exceedingly rare and there are stories like this: https://youtu.be/eie7WJF0aY0

And numerous others of wolves befriending dogs.

As for bear and mountain lions i’m sorry but when you hike, mountain bike, jog or otherwise enter areas where they reside you must know the rules. Wear something that makes noise so a bear can here it before they see you, bring bear spray etc. excersize caution and awareness. When attacks DO happen I would never call for killing the animal unless they’re rabid or have developed a pattern of attacking humans.

It’s like the PhD’s who go swimming in Florida and someone is attacked by an alligator or shark and the rednecks go and kill 10 gators or 5-6 sharks. Why? If you enter their world know you’re at risk.
 
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solovsfett said:
Wow. Find me one article that reports a wild wolf or pack attacking a human
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LOL, a dumb azz from Schitcago, I should have known
if you people weren't so stupid you'd be dangerous

https://www.adn.com/outdoors/article/wolves-killed-alaska-teacher-2010-state-says/2011/12/07/

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/he-was-testing-humans-as-potential-prey-why-canadas-richest-uranium-mining-region-is-haunted-by-wolves



I've only been attacked by a wolf once, when I was out for a snow shoe hike on New Years Day along the Border Route Trail ( parallels Canada US border) in northern MN (has more wolves than the rest of lower 48 combined). I use old ski poles when I go and they came in handy. A wolf with straggly mostly black fur jumped out on the trail about 10-15 feet in front of me and snarled viciously, I immediately put both poles behind me in case another was going to attack me from behind and also so I could swing the pole at it if it lunged at me. When it took a step forward it saw that I was ready for attach and it jumped back into the woods and disappeared.
Tell me again wolves are afraid of people and do not attack, this particular wolf was huge, I would have had a heluva time fighting him off if he had attacked.

My last trip to Montana I slept with my 12 ga loaded with slugs, call me afraid if you want, I slept like a baby. No way would I camp in brown bear country without something more than bear spray, I'll gladly pay the fine rather than be mauled. And if some lefty SOB complains, wouldn't hesitate shootin' him too
 
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pokechecker said:
LOL, a dumb azz from Schitcago, I should have known
if you people weren't so stupid you'd be dangerous

https://www.adn.com/outdoors/article/wolves-killed-alaska-teacher-2010-state-says/2011/12/07/

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/he-was-testing-humans-as-potential-prey-why-canadas-richest-uranium-mining-region-is-haunted-by-wolves



I've only been attacked by a wolf once, when I was out for a snow shoe hike on New Years Day along the Border Route Trail ( parallels Canada US border) in northern MN (has more wolves than the rest of lower 48 combined). I use old ski poles when I go and they came in handy. A wolf with straggly mostly black fur jumped out on the trail about 10-15 feet in front of me and snarled viciously, I immediately put both poles behind me in case another was going to attack me from behind and also so I could swing the pole at it if it lunged at me. When it took a step forward it saw that I was ready for attach and it jumped back into the woods and disappeared.
Tell me again wolves are afraid of people and do not attack, this particular wolf was huge, I would have had a heluva time fighting him off if he had attacked.

My last trip to Montana I slept with my 12 ga loaded with slugs, call me afraid if you want, I slept like a baby. No way would I camp in brown bear country without something more than bear spray, I'll gladly pay the fine rather than be mauled. And if some lefty SOB complains, wouldn't hesitate shootin' him too
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Why would you ever walk out your front door?
 
pokechecker said:
LOL, a dumb azz from Schitcago, I should have known
if you people weren't so stupid you'd be dangerous

https://www.adn.com/outdoors/article/wolves-killed-alaska-teacher-2010-state-says/2011/12/07/

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/he-was-testing-humans-as-potential-prey-why-canadas-richest-uranium-mining-region-is-haunted-by-wolves



I've only been attacked by a wolf once, when I was out for a snow shoe hike on New Years Day along the Border Route Trail ( parallels Canada US border) in northern MN (has more wolves than the rest of lower 48 combined). I use old ski poles when I go and they came in handy. A wolf with straggly mostly black fur jumped out on the trail about 10-15 feet in front of me and snarled viciously, I immediately put both poles behind me in case another was going to attack me from behind and also so I could swing the pole at it if it lunged at me. When it took a step forward it saw that I was ready for attach and it jumped back into the woods and disappeared.
Tell me again wolves are afraid of people and do not attack, this particular wolf was huge, I would have had a heluva time fighting him off if he had attacked.

My last trip to Montana I slept with my 12 ga loaded with slugs, call me afraid if you want, I slept like a baby. No way would I camp in brown bear country without something more than bear spray, I'll gladly pay the fine rather than be mauled. And if some lefty SOB complains, wouldn't hesitate shootin' him too
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Even when I voted gop (an unfortunately misguided time in my life) I still cared for nature/animals and had major problems with both trophy hunting and hunting in general where the goal isn’t to obtain food.

I’ve read up a bit and yes, in North America there have been wolf attacks on occasion. Not nearly as many as mountain lion or bear attacks but there have been some cases. When you read up on them two factors are largely responsible: scarce resources (wolves are starving) and rabies.

Also, I don’t want to be too much of a dick but since you brought it up: i was a republican for my first 40-42 years. I’m 46 now and vote democrat or independent. You know what changed? I stopped watching tv and listening to talk radio and began reading. As much as I hate to say this (as someone of Cuban descent), The Motorcycle Diaries planted the seeds to my conversion to liberalism. Call me what you want, I give no ****s about that but understand that in the end caring for nature or the planet as a whole or people, should not be a political statement. It should be a human statement imo.
 
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