The Cities: I could have sworn we had this thread but I guess not

[Kepler]

The good news is St. Paul is not the #1 most poorly designed state capital on the CityNerd podcast.

The bad news is it's on the list.

 

[Kepler]

Memphis, Jackson, and Columbia have all jumped ahead of Baltimore in incidence of syphilis. God bless the Religious South.

 

[ticapnews]

400,000 new affordable housing units in NYC.

"If it can happen there, why not in my city?"

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

SLC, DTW, MSP, and ATL untouched.

Alright, what does Ed Bastian have on Dump?

 

[Kepler]

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

"Everyone's all drunk and angry."

"That's true, but those people aren't New Yorkers, they're from Long Island!"

 

[Kepler]

"Everyone's all drunk and angry."

"That's true, but those people aren't New Yorkers, they're from Long Island!"

I grew up under the R in BARS.

 

[RaceBoarder]

I grew up under the R in BARS.

Where exactly is the line (West to East) between actual NYC, Close Suburbs, Fringe Suburbs, and Rural? (Is the last option even a thing on Long Island?). How does that progression go?

 

[Russell Jaslow]

Where exactly is the line (West to East) between actual NYC, Close Suburbs, Fringe Suburbs, and Rural? (Is the last option even a thing on Long Island?). How does that progression go?

There actually are still some rural areas close to the North Folk. And there are wineries, but all the old potato and duck farms are pretty much gone.

 

[Kepler]

Where exactly is the line (West to East) between actual NYC, Close Suburbs, Fringe Suburbs, and Rural? (Is the last option even a thing on Long Island?). How does that progression go?

My knowledge is old (80s) but when I knew LI it was:

(1) Actual NYC: Brooklyn and Queens, unless you're from Manhattan in which case that's Outer Borough bridge & tunnel and not true NYC.
(2) Close suburbs: Nassau County. North half is hilly, woodsy, and wealthy, South half is flat, plowed, and tacky.
(3) Fringe Suburbs: Western Suffolk County out to a rough line from Port Jefferson through Hauppauge to Bay Shore. This is where effective public transport ends. Super poor and super black in the center of the line, gets richer and browner and then turns solid white as you move northeast or southwest towards the water.
(4) Rural: Mostly everything else in Eastern Suffolk County with some exceptions, most famously Southampton.

The Hamptons are really weird because outside the gold coast of the ultra rich fucks with their copters, the surrounding area are indistinguishable from coastal New England farmers and seamen from 1840s Herman Melville. They hate city folk but it doesn't stop them gradually selling off tiny parcels of their land at Dubai prices.

You can find pretty much everything on The Island. It contains multitudes. If Long Island was a state it would be the 13th most populous (8.1M), right after Virginia. I hated it as a teenager and 20-something and stay far away as an adult, but without those associations it contains most of the most tolerable places on the Acela coast.

 

[ticapnews]

Speaking of NYC...

US Law Enforcement Warns of ‘Anti-Tech Extremism’ as AI Hatred Grows​

As Americans stew over the looming risk of job-stealing AI and data centers in their backyards, the feds are raising the alarm about a new category of threat, documents obtained by WIRED show.

In the wake of attacks on CEOs, a nationwide protest movement targeting data centers, and increasing concerns about AI job replacement, federal intelligence agencies and domestic law enforcement are circulating reports with a new domestic target in mind: anti-technology extremists.

This new effort follows President Donald Trump's National Security Presidential Memo 7, which instructs the Department of Justice to target anyone holding “anti-American,” “anti-Christian,” and "anti-capitalism” beliefs. Earlier this month, Trump's counterterrorism czar, Sebastian Gorka, released a public counterterrorism strategy claiming that left-wing extremists are one of the three top counterterrorism priorities facing the United States.

Taken together, these Trump administration directives have commandeered the domestic surveillance apparatus to surveil and criminalize speech and assembly that challenges the ideology of the White House. A new focus on anti-technology extremism adds an unreported category to already public designations under a presidency that has heavily invested political and material capital in AI and data center proliferation.

 

[RaceBoarder]

There actually are still some rural areas close to the North Folk. And there are wineries, but all the old potato and duck farms are pretty much gone.

My knowledge is old (80s) but when I knew LI it was:

(1) Actual NYC: Brooklyn and Queens, unless you're from Manhattan in which case that's Outer Borough bridge & tunnel and not true NYC.
(2) Close suburbs: Nassau County. North half is hilly, woodsy, and wealthy, South half is flat, plowed, and tacky.
(3) Fringe Suburbs: Western Suffolk County out to a rough line from Port Jefferson through Hauppauge to Bay Shore. This is where effective public transport ends. Super poor and super black in the center of the line, gets richer and browner and then turns solid white as you move northeast or southwest towards the water.
(4) Rural: Mostly everything else in Eastern Suffolk County with some exceptions, most famously Southampton.

The Hamptons are really weird because outside the gold coast of the ultra rich fucks with their copters, the surrounding area are indistinguishable from coastal New England farmers and seamen from 1840s Herman Melville. They hate city folk but it doesn't stop them gradually selling off tiny parcels of their land at Dubai prices.

You can find pretty much everything on The Island. It contains multitudes. If Long Island was a state it would be the 13th most populous (8.1M), right after Virginia. I hated it as a teenager and 20-something and stay far away as an adult, but without those associations it contains most of the most tolerable places on the Acela coast.

Thanks for the explanation... I had no idea what the makeup of Long Island really was. I just knew that Montouk was a few hours to the East of Manhattan by car and that it's good Striped Bass fishing. And that at somepoint between there and the Brooklyn Bridge, you transitioned to NYC proper, lol.