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Penn State 2011-12 Schedule
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sbkbghockey
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Re: Penn State 2011-12 Schedule
Not a bad schedule but not the toughest in the ACHA and esp for a transition season from ACHA to NCAA DI. I would like to see them play the top ACHA teams-Davenport and Lindenwood, a few more NCAA DIII or CIS opponents, and it would have been nice to play exhibition or two with Atlantic Hockey (They've played Robert Morris (PA) a cpl times in the past). I assume since the schedule on PennStateHockey.com doesn't say, that the game in Dec against Niagara and two game series vs. Mercyhurst are against those schools' ACHA teams.
Also Lebanon Valley is dropping even lower, last season was their first in the ACHA from horrible winless streak in NCAA DIII, they played some lower ranked ACHA DI and some ACHA DII teams. Their coach is now gone and rumors are that LVC will probably join ACHA DII within the next few seasons.
Not a bad schedule but not the toughest in the ACHA and esp for a transition season from ACHA to NCAA DI. I would like to see them play the top ACHA teams-Davenport and Lindenwood, a few more NCAA DIII or CIS opponents, and it would have been nice to play exhibition or two with Atlantic Hockey (They've played Robert Morris (PA) a cpl times in the past). I assume since the schedule on PennStateHockey.com doesn't say, that the game in Dec against Niagara and two game series vs. Mercyhurst are against those schools' ACHA teams.
Also Lebanon Valley is dropping even lower, last season was their first in the ACHA from horrible winless streak in NCAA DIII, they played some lower ranked ACHA DI and some ACHA DII teams. Their coach is now gone and rumors are that LVC will probably join ACHA DII within the next few seasons.
Re: Penn State 2011-12 Schedule
Why would a NCAA varisty team play an ACHA team? NU doesnt have it on their schedule but I dont see why they would do that. Has to a captians practice type game. If a true NCAA varisty team lost to an ACHA it would kill future recruiting. too much to lose. Can you talk more about this?
Also there are no future NCAA DI players on this team correct? They are recruiting for the 2012-2013 season right? Wouldnt make sense to waste a year of eligibility. I know a player on this ACHA DI team, he honestly thinks he'll make the NCAA DI team. Who knows, maybe he will but it’s unlikely.
Why would a NCAA varisty team play an ACHA team? NU doesnt have it on their schedule but I dont see why they would do that. Has to a captians practice type game. If a true NCAA varisty team lost to an ACHA it would kill future recruiting. too much to lose. Can you talk more about this?
Also there are no future NCAA DI players on this team correct? They are recruiting for the 2012-2013 season right? Wouldnt make sense to waste a year of eligibility. I know a player on this ACHA DI team, he honestly thinks he'll make the NCAA DI team. Who knows, maybe he will but it’s unlikely.
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Re: Penn State 2011-12 Schedule
Penn State has played a number of D-1 and D-3 varsity teams over the years. The game against Neumann is scheduled to be played at the Wells Fargo Arena in Philly.
There will be several varsity recruits on this year's team, which will be coached by varsity coach Guy Gadowsky and his assistants. They do not lose a year of eligibility since they can play four years of varsity in five academic years.
Penn State has played a number of D-1 and D-3 varsity teams over the years. The game against Neumann is scheduled to be played at the Wells Fargo Arena in Philly.
There will be several varsity recruits on this year's team, which will be coached by varsity coach Guy Gadowsky and his assistants. They do not lose a year of eligibility since they can play four years of varsity in five academic years.
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Ok so they get 4 years to play, but 1 of those 4 will be this coming year.......which is 1 year before they go NCAA DI. So once they jump up those players will have 3 years left right? Not bad to get some guys in and start learning the system so there arent 25 brand new faces
Ok so they get 4 years to play, but 1 of those 4 will be this coming year.......which is 1 year before they go NCAA DI. So once they jump up those players will have 3 years left right? Not bad to get some guys in and start learning the system so there arent 25 brand new faces
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No - they can play this year in the ACHA and still have four years of varsity eligibility. Think of it as redshirting.
No - they can play this year in the ACHA and still have four years of varsity eligibility. Think of it as redshirting.
Re: Penn State 2011-12 Schedule
Steve
As I understand it, the ACHA-1 team is kaput after this season. What happens to the players on that team that don't have a chance of playing for the NCAA team? Do they drop to the ACHA2 team (IIRC, they have to pay to play on that team) which would make that a dynamite ACHA2 team? Or do all the club teams drop an ACHA classification (1->2 and 2->3)?????
Steve
As I understand it, the ACHA-1 team is kaput after this season. What happens to the players on that team that don't have a chance of playing for the NCAA team? Do they drop to the ACHA2 team (IIRC, they have to pay to play on that team) which would make that a dynamite ACHA2 team? Or do all the club teams drop an ACHA classification (1->2 and 2->3)?????
Re: Penn State 2011-12 Schedule
You're right, the D-1 ACHA team has one more season, then the D-2 team will be the top ACHA team in 2012-13.
The juniors and sophomores this school year will have a chance to make the varsity team -- how many can make it remains to be seen.
You're right, the D-1 ACHA team has one more season, then the D-2 team will be the top ACHA team in 2012-13.
The juniors and sophomores this school year will have a chance to make the varsity team -- how many can make it remains to be seen.
sbkbghockey
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Re: Penn State 2011-12 Schedule
Yes, Penn State operated the ACHA DI team with varsity club status. having a varsity-club team and full varsity NCAA team doesn't make much sense, at schools with club teams and NCAA teams attendance of the club team is minimal compared to the NCAA team.
Because of how well Penn State recruited in the past and their programs rich history there's a few players on the current roster that have a chance of a 3rd or 4th line role. With Gadowsky coaching this season, those current guys are essentially on tryout all year (at least if I was one of them that's how I'd play every practice and game). As it's been said, some of the incoming players are recruits for the NCAA team coming a year early. It'll provide a better transition not to have an NCAA team of mostly freshmen with a few transfers.
The players that don't make the NCAA team can continue playing on the ACHA DII team, some may transfer to other ACHA DI programs or NCAA DIII programs, and others may just hang up competitive hockey and focus on graduating.
Yes, Penn State operated the ACHA DI team with varsity club status. having a varsity-club team and full varsity NCAA team doesn't make much sense, at schools with club teams and NCAA teams attendance of the club team is minimal compared to the NCAA team.
Because of how well Penn State recruited in the past and their programs rich history there's a few players on the current roster that have a chance of a 3rd or 4th line role. With Gadowsky coaching this season, those current guys are essentially on tryout all year (at least if I was one of them that's how I'd play every practice and game). As it's been said, some of the incoming players are recruits for the NCAA team coming a year early. It'll provide a better transition not to have an NCAA team of mostly freshmen with a few transfers.
The players that don't make the NCAA team can continue playing on the ACHA DII team, some may transfer to other ACHA DI programs or NCAA DIII programs, and others may just hang up competitive hockey and focus on graduating.
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that ACHA D2 team will own everyone. They will tear up the MACHA because its really a ACHA D1 team, so why are they getting rid of the ACHA D1 team?
Ill take your word for the years of play, I really thought once you start playing either ACHA or NCAA your clock starts. Except you get 5 years at ACHA. Maybe the difference is ACHA D1 and D2 because I know rules are different. Then why wouldnt NCAA teams have a farm system of sorts and have an ACHA team to develop players?
Ok so on to the NCAA D1 team. Honestly, how many ACHA D1 players will make this team? Maybe 1 or 2 I would think, but would not get any games played
that ACHA D2 team will own everyone. They will tear up the MACHA because its really a ACHA D1 team, so why are they getting rid of the ACHA D1 team?
Ill take your word for the years of play, I really thought once you start playing either ACHA or NCAA your clock starts. Except you get 5 years at ACHA. Maybe the difference is ACHA D1 and D2 because I know rules are different. Then why wouldnt NCAA teams have a farm system of sorts and have an ACHA team to develop players?
Ok so on to the NCAA D1 team. Honestly, how many ACHA D1 players will make this team? Maybe 1 or 2 I would think, but would not get any games played
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Steve and ballgame
Some of the bloggers on other college hockey sites are wondering about the "fairness" of a D-I transfer coming to PSU, play on the club team, and then start up next year on the varsity with no problems. Other than the ACHA having a cow, I don't see where it's anyone's business. It's all within the rules.
Even Salem St. has a rising junior that played 1 year at an ACHA school, transferred in and still had 4 years of eligibility when he got there. So, who am I to complain.
Any thoughts / opinions?
Steve and ballgame
Some of the bloggers on other college hockey sites are wondering about the "fairness" of a D-I transfer coming to PSU, play on the club team, and then start up next year on the varsity with no problems. Other than the ACHA having a cow, I don't see where it's anyone's business. It's all within the rules.
Even Salem St. has a rising junior that played 1 year at an ACHA school, transferred in and still had 4 years of eligibility when he got there. So, who am I to complain.
Any thoughts / opinions?
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This still doesn’t make sense to me. I know at ACHA DII your clock starts once you play. You get 5 years in 5 years at ACHA DII, if you start NCAA and then transfer to ACHA DII you only get 4 years including whatever time you spent at NCAA. I’ve had plenty of NCAA DIII transfers at the school I coached.
The rules are different at ACHA DI.
This still doesn’t make sense to me. I know at ACHA DII your clock starts once you play. You get 5 years in 5 years at ACHA DII, if you start NCAA and then transfer to ACHA DII you only get 4 years including whatever time you spent at NCAA. I’ve had plenty of NCAA DIII transfers at the school I coached.
The rules are different at ACHA DI.
Re: Penn State 2011-12 Schedule
darn I had a post that isn’t showing up.
anyway...
sorry wasn’t implying PSU is doing anything wrong. Just asking about the rules. As I’ve mentioned before I have a past player on the ACHA DI team that I fully support and want the best for
darn I had a post that isn’t showing up.
anyway...
sorry wasn’t implying PSU is doing anything wrong. Just asking about the rules. As I’ve mentioned before I have a past player on the ACHA DI team that I fully support and want the best for
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Any truth to the rumor that the game with Neumann may be play outdoors at Citizens Bank Park? I believe the NHL Outdoor Classic is in Philly this year. There are no Div I schools near Philadelphia to play on the rink......Penn State's site shows the game has been moved to Jan 4th.....
Any truth to the rumor that the game with Neumann may be play outdoors at Citizens Bank Park? I believe the NHL Outdoor Classic is in Philly this year. There are no Div I schools near Philadelphia to play on the rink......Penn State's site shows the game has been moved to Jan 4th.....