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Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter

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Well, some people are ready to start a new chapter now that Obama has a new Chief of Staff and the GOP has control of the House.

Then there are people like this...

'Birther' arrested during Constitution reading

A woman was arrested in the House gallery Thursday after interrupting a reading of the Constitution by yelling out her belief that President Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States.

When Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) read the part of Article II, Section 1 mandating that only a "natural-born citizen" may be president, the woman, seated in the front row of the public gallery, screamed "Except Obama, except Obama. Help us Jesus."

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Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter

Ignore the Daley but promote the "birther"... I see, because as we all know birtherism is a much worse national phenomenon than Obama's tie to corruption and to his administration's continual embrace of corruption. Those awful birthers... why don't they know how to abuse power like we do.
 
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Ignore the Daley but promote the "birther"... I see, because as we all know birtherism is a much worse national phenomenon than Obama's tie to corruption and to his administration's continual embrace of corruption. Those awful birthers... why don't they know how to abuse power like we do.

No blind partisanship there. The amount of corruption and scandals in the Republican years of the 2000s dwarfs what it has been under Obama.

Let me know if you want to compare notes...
 
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In all seriousness, what do people think is actually going to get done for the next two years? My guesses:

- Some deficit reduction, perhaps even something substantial
- Some screwing around with the margins of ObamaCare
- Some screwing around with the margins of financial reform
- Some likely empty tinkering with immigration reform

What isn't going to get touched?

- Nothing on campaign finance reform
- Nothing on energy or environment
- Nothing on education

Unforeseen international events or something like a major disaster or high profile terrorist attack may drive this term more than anything else. I for one am hoping for an uneventful, increasingly prosperous 2 years.

Am I missing something obvious on either side's agenda that has any hope in heck?
 
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you think some deficit reduction is going to take place in the next two years? I wish I had your optimism. The Republicans are already getting plastered by the Dems and media for even talking about very modest reigning in of spending. And it's not like the Republicans had put a whole lot on the table to begin with. I think we just keep spending ourselves into oblivion, as the momentum is too strong in the Beltway, the politicians has little gumption to address the issue meaningfully, and the public really deep down cares more about short-term benefits to themselves than they do about long-term fiscal responsibility. When the nation collapses from it's debt, all the other issues we are arguing about will fade into inconsequence.
 
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I smell a rat. :D

But then this happened...

You know that zany birther who had the nerve to interrupt the Congressional reading of the Constitution yesterday?

Well word has come to me that she is 48-year-old Theresa Cao of New York. She was arrested on charges of unlawful conduct, disruption of Congress.

Cao was processed at Capitol Police headquarters and released. No doubt, we will probably being hearing more about her.

But for the purpose of this site, I ran across something regarding Ms. Cao that I find very interesting. The first part of the video clip below is her talking and as you can see . . . well I will let her appearance and words speak for themselves.

But after she is done talking (or probably before then because she does drone on), I recommend that you fast forward to 3:50 of the video. Apparently Ms. Cao made an appearance at a religious right rally. And not just any rally but the failed May Day 2010 rally held for the purpose of Lifting The Curse That Obama's Election Has Brought Upon America.

The rally was put on by Janet Porter, who became infamous after her prayer that God give Christians like herself control of the media.

Needless to say, the rally failed miserably, costing over $70,000 to hold and organizers expected attendance to reach over 8,000. However, only 300 people showing up.

But that's not to say it wasn't fun to watch. Our favorite homophobe, Peter LaBarbera was there to deliver an anti-gay prayer and as the video shows, Cao was there delivering her best "black woman catching the Holy Ghost" dance behind some of the speakers. Then she decides to take the microphone and do what can only be termed as a bad imitation of Joan Jett. And then things get very interesting with her passing out from a "trance dance:"

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I keep thinking Obama as 2nd coming of Bush2, but he's surrounding himself with Clinton cronies. So should we label him as Clinton2timer.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20027758-503544.html
Gene Sperling NEW National Economic Advisor to Obama.

Sperling became National Economic Adviser to Clinton and director of the National Economic Council from 1996 to 2000.

As director of the NEC. Sperling was a principal negotiator with then-Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers of the Financial Modernization Act of 1999, also known as the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. Gramm-Leach-Bliley repealed large portions of the depression-era Glass-Stegall Act allowing banks, securities firms and insurance companies to merge.[2]President Barack Obama believes that the repeal of Glass-Steagall helped cause the 2007 subprime mortgage financial crisis

Bill Daley NEW Chief of Staff

In 1993, he served as special counsel to the President on issues relating to the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). [4]In 1997, Daley became Secretary of Commerce in the second administration of President Bill Clinton, and he remained at that post until July 2000, when he resigned to campaign for the Vice President.

Now, in a turn of events that has the left wing aghast, one of those fat cats will soon be setting policy at the White House. Daley, after all, spent 7 years at JP Morgan where he's believed to have earned at least $5 million a year, possibly much more. He's one of them, liberals cry, not one of us.

Bill Daley thinks the Democrats went too far on health care reform. And opposed Wall Street reform.
 
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you think some deficit reduction is going to take place in the next two years? I wish I had your optimism. The Republicans are already getting plastered by the Dems and media for even talking about very modest reigning in of spending. And it's not like the Republicans had put a whole lot on the table to begin with. I think we just keep spending ourselves into oblivion, as the momentum is too strong in the Beltway, the politicians has little gumption to address the issue meaningfully, and the public really deep down cares more about short-term benefits to themselves than they do about long-term fiscal responsibility. When the nation collapses from it's debt, all the other issues we are arguing about will fade into inconsequence.

90% of the electorate has the fiscal comprehension of a sack of hammers, but the debt problem is getting bad enough that now rich people might get hurt. Double digit unemployment doesn't matter but the slightest whiff of inflation is A Devastating Problem We Must Act On!!!! And anyway, a financially stable nation is much more profitable to plunder. So yeah, I think we'll get some modest debt relief while the ruling class builds machine gun nests around the Reagan Arms gated community and sends their Congressmen out to talk about "shared sacrifice" (translation: burn the safety net, I'm all right Jack).
 
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Anyone care to explain how voting against raising the debt ceiling in 2006 was totally cool for Obama, Biden, Reid, and company, but now it will bring *scary music* FISCAL DOOM?

Not that said fiscal doom is exaggerated of course.
 
Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter

Anyone care to explain how voting against raising the debt ceiling in 2006 was totally cool for Obama, Biden, Reid, and company, but now it will bring *scary music* FISCAL DOOM?

Not that said fiscal doom is exaggerated of course.

Because a Republican was in the White House. Now there is a Democrat in the White House. When a Republican is in the White House it will be cool again. See also: Patriotic heroes/Jack-booted Thugs
 
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Poll the voters:

Do you agree with X that Y?

set Y to a concatenation of nonsense words phrased like a policy choice ("increased mimsy is required to save our crumbling borogoves")
set X to "Democrats" for half the sample and "Republicans" for the other half

Anybody doubt what the result would be?
 
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Because a Republican was in the White House. Now there is a Democrat in the White House. When a Republican is in the White House it will be cool again. See also: Patriotic heroes/Jack-booted Thugs
Yep - a bit of "as long as they pretend to have policies, we will pretend to oppose them."

"We" and "they" being interchangeable, of course....
 
Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter

In all seriousness, what do people think is actually going to get done for the next two years? My guesses:

- Some deficit reduction, perhaps even something substantial
- Some screwing around with the margins of ObamaCare
- Some screwing around with the margins of financial reform
- Some likely empty tinkering with immigration reform

What isn't going to get touched?

- Nothing on campaign finance reform
- Nothing on energy or environment
- Nothing on education

Unforeseen international events or something like a major disaster or high profile terrorist attack may drive this term more than anything else. I for one am hoping for an uneventful, increasingly prosperous 2 years.

Am I missing something obvious on either side's agenda that has any hope in heck?

I won't be surprised if they get nothing done on the deficit...or at least anything that is a true reduction vs. some double talk about revised impact estimates etc.

One positive development is that, as we saw this week, some of them can read. Perhaps we could have them read other things, like children's books, and sell commercials on CSPAN for Happy Meals and Power Rangers...now that could reduce the deficit.

For you other post I think you could put something factual in the first variable, change the party in the second, put in a string of them and prove that people will be for something on question 5 because it says Republicans support it and then be against the same thing on question 26 because it says the democrats support it. (and vv)

There are people in both parties that wouldn't get out of a burning building if Nancy Pelosi or George Bush told them to.
 
Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter

Anyone care to explain how voting against raising the debt ceiling in 2006 was totally cool for Obama, Biden, Reid, and company, but now it will bring *scary music* FISCAL DOOM?

Not that said fiscal doom is exaggerated of course.

Good question.

I think this time is because it may actually not pass and that is FISCAL DOOM for the US. Sometimes these clowns up in DC will do protests votes against things THEY KNOW will pass so they can run on it later. In this case there may be enough REPUBS to doom raising the debt ceiling and that will be a first in US History.
 
Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter

Ignore the Daley but promote the "birther"... I see, because as we all know birtherism is a much worse national phenomenon than Obama's tie to corruption and to his administration's continual embrace of corruption. Those awful birthers... why don't they know how to abuse power like we do.

Hey, moveon.org and Ezra Klein both don't like the Daley appointment, so it can't be that bad right?
 
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There are people in both parties that wouldn't get out of a burning building if Nancy Pelosi or George Bush told them to.


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Re: Obama Presidential Thread XIX: Starting a new chapter

Good question.

I think this time is because it may actually not pass and that is FISCAL DOOM for the US. Sometimes these clowns up in DC will do protests votes against things THEY KNOW will pass so they can run on it later. In this case there may be enough REPUBS to doom raising the debt ceiling and that will be a first in US History.

I'm hoping it won't pass. Then the dollar will be worthless, law enforcement will go out the window and the debt from all these Christmas gifts I bought will go away. :D
 
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These right wingers, they just won't cut military spending, won't even talk about it. Oh?

Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist said he wants to build a center-right coalition to advocate for considering pulling out of Afghanistan in order to save the hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars being spent there.

As the United States grapples with the government's fiscal crisis, the huge investment in Afghanistan just isn't wise, Norquist argued at a private salon dinner in Washington on Tuesday evening to a group of foreign-policy minded academics and journalists. He also pointed to the opportunity cost of devoting so much national attention and resources to Afghanistan, which takes focus away from other international challenges.
 
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These right wingers, they just won't cut military spending, won't even talk about it. Oh?

Citing Grover Norquist as somehow representative of Republican military corporate welfare advocates is like citing Louis Farrakhan on women's issues.

Robert Gates would like to cut about $78 billion from our bloated military budget over the next five years. That is, as they say, a start -- we spend more on defense than every other nation in the world, and in the meantime the Republican plan for dealing with our apparently crushing national debt is to threaten to default. But those Republicans who promise austerity have one small problem with Gates' plan: They refuse to cut a single dollar of military spending, even when our Republican defense secretary politely asks them to.

Of course, Gates is only attempting to forestall deeper cuts in Pentagon spending that might be proposed by ... well, no one, because no one besides hippies ever proposes serious cuts in military spending. But the $78 billion in fat to trim was offered up just in case someone else came up with a plan to cut, like, $150 billion of the Pentagon budget. This is all the most discretionary of discretionary spending, of course, because we're not even talking about the money we spend fighting wars. That spending will grow for the next couple years -- we'll be sending 1,000 new troops to Afghanistan, for example, and they will need food and guns and tanks and things. (And drones! We need lots of drones, for assassinating people.)

But uselessness and waste don't matter to our new small-government Tea Party overlords in the House of Representatives. Missouri Republican Todd Akin -- chair of the "House Armed Services seapower and expeditionary forces subcommittee" -- tried the old "while we support cuts, we can't support these cuts" argument:

"There are certainly wasteful and inefficient parts of the DOD that should be cut," said Akin. "At the same time, I find it stunning that the Obama administration thinks cutting almost $80 billion from our defense budget while we are at war is a responsible course of action. I have a number of concerns about the specifics as well as the overall priorities this action reveals. If Secretary Gates wants Congress to even consider supporting any of these proposals, he must personally ensure that Congress receives the information we need, rather than stiff-arming the Congress as has been the norm for the last few years."

Akin also argued that the fact that a cut to the Pentagon budget was even proposed proves, like everything else, that Obama is a commie who hates America:

"The only department undertaking a serious budget cutting exercise is the Department of Defense," said Akin. "Where are the similar reviews at any other executive department? Our military is at war, and our military is the only department asked to seriously tighten its budget?"

Yes, well, the nation is also facing, according to your party, a debt crisis, and the Department of Defense is responsible for more non-entitlement spending than any other department, by a substantial margin. Just in case you didn't get his point -- Obama hates America, is French, wears a dress, etc. -- Akin proposed an interesting hypothesis: "If the president and the secretary of defense want to get rid of the Marine Corps, they should come out and say that directly."

Yes, I am 100 percent positive that Robert Gates wants to get rid of the Marine Corps. He hates the troops.

Serious Rational Conservatives often like to push their glasses up on their faces and cluck about how we can't solve the deficit problem merely by taxing billionaires. I put forth that we also can't solve the problem by not taxing anyone while also not cutting spending on anything besides $100,000 earmarks for funny-sounding animal research at the University of Peoria.

But what do I know? I'm no Buck McKeon, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, who apparently wants to take all the money we get in military budget "savings" and spend it on ... the military.

"I'm not happy. We went into today's meeting trying to ensure the $100 billion in targeted savings were reinvested back into our national security priorities. We didn't expect to hear that before these efficiencies can be realized, the White House and OMB have demanded that the Pentagon cut an additional $78 billion from defense over the next five years."

Yes, right, we'll find $100 billion in efficiencies, and then efficiently send that money right back to Boeing.

Rep. Randy Forbes, who also now chairs an Armed Services subcommittee, had his own hysterical statement to issue. Hey, he thought, no one's mentioned the fact that we'll probably need to fight a full-on world war with China, yet! "Even more appalling, though, is the fact that the administration is not being honest with the threat we face with China or where our defense dollars are going," he said. Didn't you hear? China has airplanes, therefore we need newer, nicer airplanes.

Republicans love throwing billions of dollars at the Pentagon. They always have, they always will. It's not in any way surprising. But it will be fun, for a month or so, to watch the new government-shrinking House explain why it strongly supports various measures that substantially worsen the debt. The "I support cuts in general, but not this specific cut" argument will most likely be trotted out by Republicans for every single major government expenditure not related to helping unemployed people feed themselves.
 
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