backyardhockey
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Newbie here.
What % of Div 1 Womens players get a full ride?
What % get something?
Div III?
What % of Div 1 Womens players get a full ride?
What % get something?
Div III?
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Educate me please
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gojackets
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Re: Educate me please
Not an easy question to answer as the amounts of players scholarship money is not public information. It can be approximated though.
There are 26 schools that are able to provide D1 scholarships. (Union, RIT, Ivies and Independants excluded)
Each of these schools are able to provide no more then 18 Full Scholarships but they may be divvied up amongst some or all of the team's roster. A team does not have to offer all 18 out but they cannot exceed 18. If a team carries 24 players and there are 18 full schollys give then on average each player will receive a 2/3rd Partial. that doesn't happen as some players will receive Fulls and some only 1/3 or 1/2 scholarships. It depends on the team and their policies. The fact that they are most often divvied up makes it difficult to determine how many players are in fact getting full rides and how many are getting partials as teams do not release that info.
D3 schools offer 0 full or part scholarships as they are not permitted at the D3 level.
Not an easy question to answer as the amounts of players scholarship money is not public information. It can be approximated though.
There are 26 schools that are able to provide D1 scholarships. (Union, RIT, Ivies and Independants excluded)
Each of these schools are able to provide no more then 18 Full Scholarships but they may be divvied up amongst some or all of the team's roster. A team does not have to offer all 18 out but they cannot exceed 18. If a team carries 24 players and there are 18 full schollys give then on average each player will receive a 2/3rd Partial. that doesn't happen as some players will receive Fulls and some only 1/3 or 1/2 scholarships. It depends on the team and their policies. The fact that they are most often divvied up makes it difficult to determine how many players are in fact getting full rides and how many are getting partials as teams do not release that info.
D3 schools offer 0 full or part scholarships as they are not permitted at the D3 level.
Re: Educate me please
The other factor that muddies the water a bit in regard to scholarship schools is the money players receive for performance in the classroom - Academic scholarships. As I understand the process, a program will exhaust all other available monies before allocating athletic money. It may be that no one on a roster of 24 student - athletes is paying for school, but there may not be any that have a full athletic scholly.
The other factor that muddies the water a bit in regard to scholarship schools is the money players receive for performance in the classroom - Academic scholarships. As I understand the process, a program will exhaust all other available monies before allocating athletic money. It may be that no one on a roster of 24 student - athletes is paying for school, but there may not be any that have a full athletic scholly.
96IllinoisDad
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Re: Educate me please
Couple other points as far as I understand them (please correct me if I am wrong):
1. Total athletic scholarship money available to award = (out of state tuition, room, board and some fees) x 18. This means state schools recruiting in-state players have an advantage and arguably "extra" money.
2. If a school awards any athletic money to an athlete, then academic or non-need based "merit" money counts as athletic money. If a school does not award athletic money, then academic or merit money does not count as athletic money. Financial need based aid does not count as athletic money in any case.
3. If a player signs an NLI, they must have received at least $1 of athletic money. In other words, if a player gets no athletic money, they don't sign an NLI (Ivys, DIIIs included).
Couple other points as far as I understand them (please correct me if I am wrong):
1. Total athletic scholarship money available to award = (out of state tuition, room, board and some fees) x 18. This means state schools recruiting in-state players have an advantage and arguably "extra" money.
2. If a school awards any athletic money to an athlete, then academic or non-need based "merit" money counts as athletic money. If a school does not award athletic money, then academic or merit money does not count as athletic money. Financial need based aid does not count as athletic money in any case.
3. If a player signs an NLI, they must have received at least $1 of athletic money. In other words, if a player gets no athletic money, they don't sign an NLI (Ivys, DIIIs included).
Hux
Alfond to Ridder & rinks in between
Re: Educate me please
I don't know if this holds true for all state schools, as I have heard of several that figure athletic awards as "out of state" regardless of whether they are in state students.
I don't know if this holds true for all state schools, as I have heard of several that figure athletic awards as "out of state" regardless of whether they are in state students.
giwan
Really??!!
Re: Educate me please
D3 can't specifically give out "ATHLETIC" scholarships. WINK WINK
D3 can't specifically give out "ATHLETIC" scholarships. WINK WINK
AggiesHockey
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Re: Educate me please
Ask the coach.
It might be an uncomfortable topic for a recruit to ask, but it's better to have the discussion early in the process than let it linger. Your bargaining position may be improved if you have offers from other schools, and if you're comfortable walking away from school A's offer. Coach may or may not have wiggle room, and hopefully s/he is up front about it. If you don't trust the coach to give an honest answer, you better shop around. I've heard a few coaches say they like to reward the players that stick with their program by upping their scholarship amount as years go on. So a quarter scholarship offer may get you in the door; maybe it would be a 100% by senior year. I definitely wouldn't assume this. Discuss with the Coach, and be thankful & respectful of any offer they give you.
Ask the coach.
It might be an uncomfortable topic for a recruit to ask, but it's better to have the discussion early in the process than let it linger. Your bargaining position may be improved if you have offers from other schools, and if you're comfortable walking away from school A's offer. Coach may or may not have wiggle room, and hopefully s/he is up front about it. If you don't trust the coach to give an honest answer, you better shop around. I've heard a few coaches say they like to reward the players that stick with their program by upping their scholarship amount as years go on. So a quarter scholarship offer may get you in the door; maybe it would be a 100% by senior year. I definitely wouldn't assume this. Discuss with the Coach, and be thankful & respectful of any offer they give you.
Hockeysbest
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]D3 can't get scholarships
Is it 18 scholarships per year? Because if that's the case, then theoretically there are plenty for everyone.
Is it 18 scholarships per year? Because if that's the case, then theoretically there are plenty for everyone.
Re: Educate me please
It is not 18 NEW ones each year, it is 18 TOTAL each year. You will have graduating Seniors or transfers out that will determine how many Fulls (ie how much money) you are able to allocate every year. Depending on the number that are coming off the books, it will probably be a different number each year. Also remember that technically a players scholarship is only guaranteed for one year. That means that a 100% Freshman might find themselves only receiving 75% as a Sophmore, depending on the Coach's evaluation. In practice a coach won't mess around too much with that as it is a pretty small community and a coach's (read Programs) reputation is at play, but it still remains a possibility
It is not 18 NEW ones each year, it is 18 TOTAL each year. You will have graduating Seniors or transfers out that will determine how many Fulls (ie how much money) you are able to allocate every year. Depending on the number that are coming off the books, it will probably be a different number each year. Also remember that technically a players scholarship is only guaranteed for one year. That means that a 100% Freshman might find themselves only receiving 75% as a Sophmore, depending on the Coach's evaluation. In practice a coach won't mess around too much with that as it is a pretty small community and a coach's (read Programs) reputation is at play, but it still remains a possibility