Seems a heavy slant towards WCHA on this site, so wanted to open up an ECAC thread in case anyone had any thoughts or watched the games. Some great games this past weekend, and the first round should be very exciting. Some of the best players in the country are definitely found in the ECAC.
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ECAC Hockey
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ZedLeppelin
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You spelled "CHA" wrong.
No question that the ECAC playoffs this year will be very intense competition. Before the start of the season I predicted Cornell would take it all but they have demonstrated that they are not strong enough defensively to get the job done. I wouldn't count them out, but certainly can't be seen as the favorite now. This may be the kiss of death, but I would now pick Colgate to win it all, but with several strong teams in the mix goaltending can often be the deciding factor, so Yale will be tough to beat, as well.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
What do people think about Q? Obviously they aren't the first good team to have a rough weekend in the North Country over the years. Or combined with the drubbing at Princeton and the .500 record over the last month, does it point to the Bobcats not being the same team that they were earlier in the season?
Q has been something of a riddle for the last month. Not sure what is happening there. It looks like Yale and Colgate began to separate from the pack near the end of the season. St. Lawrence seemed to be playing better near the end and have some top end forwards so they could give Q a run. I think Colgate is a bit deeper than Yale by the time you get to the 3rd line and that may be the difference between those two.
I think the Clarkson Cornell series comes down to the Knights defense and goaltending. I do not see Cornell getting 8 goals like they did in Ithaca in November. However Clarkson has only scored 3 goals in the 2 games played (they did hold Cornell to 1 goal in Potsdam in February). In 22 ECAC games, Clarkson has 60GF (6th) and 38GA (3rd) vs Cornell 78GF (4th) and 70GA (10th).
Overall, Cornell in 29 games has 4 forwards with 10 or more goals (Frechette 18 Daniel 17 Delianedis 10 and Van Gelder 13). Clarkson in 36 games has 3 (David 19 Cherkowski 20 and Lappan 13).
In Goal Clarkson Pasiechnyuk 29 games 1.48 GAA and .934 SP (1 GA in game 2, however she gave up 5 goals in 34 min in the 1st game).
Cornell has played 3 goalies about the same # of GP, Fraser 13GP (Held Clarkson to 1 goal in 1st game) had most minutes played: 2.38 Best GAA and Dulac (played game 2 in Potsdam) 12GP: .873 the Best SP.
Would not surprise me if this goes to 3 games or if either team won in 2 games. Probably the first team to score 3 in any game will win that game.
If Clarkson advances, I just might try to convince my wife to take a drive up from Maryland to see the Yale Whale for the first time.
Overall, Cornell in 29 games has 4 forwards with 10 or more goals (Frechette 18 Daniel 17 Delianedis 10 and Van Gelder 13). Clarkson in 36 games has 3 (David 19 Cherkowski 20 and Lappan 13).
In Goal Clarkson Pasiechnyuk 29 games 1.48 GAA and .934 SP (1 GA in game 2, however she gave up 5 goals in 34 min in the 1st game).
Cornell has played 3 goalies about the same # of GP, Fraser 13GP (Held Clarkson to 1 goal in 1st game) had most minutes played: 2.38 Best GAA and Dulac (played game 2 in Potsdam) 12GP: .873 the Best SP.
Would not surprise me if this goes to 3 games or if either team won in 2 games. Probably the first team to score 3 in any game will win that game.
If Clarkson advances, I just might try to convince my wife to take a drive up from Maryland to see the Yale Whale for the first time.
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After watching the replay of the Harvard-Yale blowout on ESPN+, Harvard coming close to winning even one game in this series is highly unlikely. Probably not gonna be 10-1 wins for Yale but 5 or 6 to 1 would not surprise me.
I think Princeton can give Colgate some trouble (especially if Conners and Fillier can produce) but I am going to say Gate wins 2 very close games.
SLU will give Quinny a battle. They beat them in Canton 4 to 1 a week ago and had a 2-1 lead with 10 min to go in the game in Hamden and then the roof fell in and they gave up 4 goals.
Morgan vs Angers in the nets, 2 of the best goalies in the ECAC. This one could go to a 3rd game.
I think Princeton can give Colgate some trouble (especially if Conners and Fillier can produce) but I am going to say Gate wins 2 very close games.
SLU will give Quinny a battle. They beat them in Canton 4 to 1 a week ago and had a 2-1 lead with 10 min to go in the game in Hamden and then the roof fell in and they gave up 4 goals.
Morgan vs Angers in the nets, 2 of the best goalies in the ECAC. This one could go to a 3rd game.
I would hope that the Harvard players themselves would come out mad and driven to start the series with Yale. I would hope that any player with a competitive bone will come out strong.
Colgate on paper has the "fanciest" and most talked about players both at forward and D. And I believe the goaltenders for Colgate also lead the league. So Colgate has no actual weaknesses. It's almost an embarrassment of riches when you see who plays on the third line for the Raiders. But Colgate and Yale are built and play differently. Yale's leading scorer leads the team in +/- which I guess isn't that unusual, but Colgate's leading scorer does not. What is unusual is that Yale's leading scorer also leads the team in blocked shots, which shows the difference in how the teams are succeeding. Yale's team culture is defense first, and Colgate "plays free." Just different approaches.
Q was succeeding in a similar manner to Yale. They have had a rough go lately, but I still see them locking it down in playoffs.
And Princeton certainly has the parts to have performed better. Not really sure what happened there...
Clarkson/Cornell will be a super interesting series. Each team has played some great games this season and then some stinkers. So the series could go either way.
Colgate on paper has the "fanciest" and most talked about players both at forward and D. And I believe the goaltenders for Colgate also lead the league. So Colgate has no actual weaknesses. It's almost an embarrassment of riches when you see who plays on the third line for the Raiders. But Colgate and Yale are built and play differently. Yale's leading scorer leads the team in +/- which I guess isn't that unusual, but Colgate's leading scorer does not. What is unusual is that Yale's leading scorer also leads the team in blocked shots, which shows the difference in how the teams are succeeding. Yale's team culture is defense first, and Colgate "plays free." Just different approaches.
Q was succeeding in a similar manner to Yale. They have had a rough go lately, but I still see them locking it down in playoffs.
And Princeton certainly has the parts to have performed better. Not really sure what happened there...
Clarkson/Cornell will be a super interesting series. Each team has played some great games this season and then some stinkers. So the series could go either way.
Quin swept Colgate. Colgate swept Yale. Yale swept Quin. It’s anybody’s guess.
IMO Yale has the stingiest defense, and defense wins championships. Colgate gives up some weak goals and many shots, but can out-score some opponents. Quin went deep in the NCAA tournament last year and that counts for something. For all, it comes down to goaltending and special teams. I see all 4 hosts winning in two; Yale and Colgate more convincingly.
IMO Yale has the stingiest defense, and defense wins championships. Colgate gives up some weak goals and many shots, but can out-score some opponents. Quin went deep in the NCAA tournament last year and that counts for something. For all, it comes down to goaltending and special teams. I see all 4 hosts winning in two; Yale and Colgate more convincingly.
Don't bet on it. Harvard is a mess, and it won't magically change between now and Friday. The team has checked out and I don't expect anything close to a competitive series. Yale knows it and will put Harvard out of its misery fairly quickly. This series is nothing more than a speed bump for them.
Yale is the team good coaching good players I suspect they should win the ECAC Colgate most penalized team but also equal in players as Yale it will come down to special teams Clarkson just like mentioned above better defense better goaltending. Quinnipiac is the only ?? Is there competition getting caught up or they not who we thought they are SLU has some stars forwards and goaltending but Quinnipiac home ice it will be a different game earlier Quinnipiac won 6-2 at home vs SLU still this would be the only game I would not bet on
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Harvard @ Yale this weekend is the best possible argument one can make for a one-and-done format in the early playoff rounds. Save the best-of-three for the finals, where the stronger teams can be truly tested.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Both named players produced; the Tigers won, 3-2.
So we have THREE games 3's in the ECAC Quarterfinals.
SLU vs Quinny: Quinny 2-1 and SLU 3-2.
First one to 3 once again wins this one. I will take the home team.
Prinny vs Colgate: Prinny 3-2 and Gate 4-3.
Colgate needs to do a better job in containing Fillier. And note to Princeton, NEVER skate the puck out from behind your defensive net thru the crease with 2 Colgate players swatting at the puck from behind you and in front of you. BAD THINGS HAPPEN!! The first to 4 wins and again I will take the home team.
Cornell vs Clarkson: Clarkson 5-1 and Cornell 2-1 (2OT).
Would not surprise me if this one goes to OT again. Clarkson's record and number of goals scored against the top 6 teams in the ECAC is 9-7-1 / 1.94 goals per game. If you remove the 5 games they played against SLU they are 5-7-0 / 1.58 goals per game. Without the SLU games, when they score 0 or 1 goal, the record is 1-7-0. When they score 2 or more the record is 4-0-0. The team defense and especially Pasiechnyk in the nets are not the issue. The issue is scoring. Clarkson has scored 1, 2, 5 and 1 goals in the 4 games against Cornell. Cornell in the 4 games they have played against Clarkson has scored 8, 1, 1 and 2 goals. Cornell's defense and goaltending have been suspect all year. However, Fraser in 3 games against Clarkson has given up 1 goal in each game. The first to 3 wins this one and being the homer I have to be I will take my Knights (Please Please) .
SLU vs Quinny: Quinny 2-1 and SLU 3-2.
First one to 3 once again wins this one. I will take the home team.
Prinny vs Colgate: Prinny 3-2 and Gate 4-3.
Colgate needs to do a better job in containing Fillier. And note to Princeton, NEVER skate the puck out from behind your defensive net thru the crease with 2 Colgate players swatting at the puck from behind you and in front of you. BAD THINGS HAPPEN!! The first to 4 wins and again I will take the home team.
Cornell vs Clarkson: Clarkson 5-1 and Cornell 2-1 (2OT).
Would not surprise me if this one goes to OT again. Clarkson's record and number of goals scored against the top 6 teams in the ECAC is 9-7-1 / 1.94 goals per game. If you remove the 5 games they played against SLU they are 5-7-0 / 1.58 goals per game. Without the SLU games, when they score 0 or 1 goal, the record is 1-7-0. When they score 2 or more the record is 4-0-0. The team defense and especially Pasiechnyk in the nets are not the issue. The issue is scoring. Clarkson has scored 1, 2, 5 and 1 goals in the 4 games against Cornell. Cornell in the 4 games they have played against Clarkson has scored 8, 1, 1 and 2 goals. Cornell's defense and goaltending have been suspect all year. However, Fraser in 3 games against Clarkson has given up 1 goal in each game. The first to 3 wins this one and being the homer I have to be I will take my Knights (Please Please) .
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My predictions were not accurate. Don’t think many teams typically go to a game 3 scenario, men’s or women’s.
SLU’s goalie can give teams fits. That’s the recipe for success; a solid ‘tender between the pipes. Colgate consistently giving up 3gpg is alarming. I’ve noticed the aggressive play along the boards to keep the puck in or out if a zone, only to have Princeton or any opponent squeak by and walk in on net untouched. If it worked, ‘Gate could have a breakaway the other way, but it is always a risky play.
Not sure how we outscored Pton 11-3 during the regular season. They are a solid team with good defense. Glad the shots were in our favor for a change. We could have had a lot more had we taken them. We blocked shots more than usual, esp. during the desperate waning minutes.
Princeton started Taylor Hyland both games and held her own. Curious about today’s starter. Would be something if SLU could pull off the upset.
SLU’s goalie can give teams fits. That’s the recipe for success; a solid ‘tender between the pipes. Colgate consistently giving up 3gpg is alarming. I’ve noticed the aggressive play along the boards to keep the puck in or out if a zone, only to have Princeton or any opponent squeak by and walk in on net untouched. If it worked, ‘Gate could have a breakaway the other way, but it is always a risky play.
Not sure how we outscored Pton 11-3 during the regular season. They are a solid team with good defense. Glad the shots were in our favor for a change. We could have had a lot more had we taken them. We blocked shots more than usual, esp. during the desperate waning minutes.
Princeton started Taylor Hyland both games and held her own. Curious about today’s starter. Would be something if SLU could pull off the upset.
Some great playoff hockey already this weekend. Today's games should be hard fought. Colgate still has the best offense in the ECAC as far as name recognition, and I would expect that they will just keep coming. Clearly, you don't want to take a penalty against Colgate. The Cornell win was particularly notable because the win came while keeping the top line off of the scoresheet. That is unusual but promising for the Big Red. And I see Guilday back in the lineup which has to help. And as for the SLU/Qpac matchup, I think the focus for each team has to be how to beat an outstanding goalie on the other side. This one is going to be a grinder with some excellent goaltending. I still think the favorites will prevail, but I think all of the games will be close.
The Harvard/Yale series - Harvard put up some resistance. More than I think some of you on this board suspected. In the end, though, they only dressed 16 players in yesterday's game and seem in need of an entire rebuild. They are a pretty young team. Reading the Harvard thread is so disturbing and sad. I hope they move fast in making some changes. I felt so bad for those seniors crumbling to the ice after the game. But give Yale credit. They overcame some early adversity in game one and just stayed the course. Hartje set a program record for assists (beat her program record from last year; prior record had stood for 36 years) and she keeps distancing herself from the rest as far as points and plus/minus, blocked shots, etc. Don't see many forwards leading a team in blocked shots. Yale isn't flashy, but they just keep getting the job done. Bulldogs are going to be a tough out with their style of play.
Can't wait to see the pairings for next weekend. Should be exciting.
The Harvard/Yale series - Harvard put up some resistance. More than I think some of you on this board suspected. In the end, though, they only dressed 16 players in yesterday's game and seem in need of an entire rebuild. They are a pretty young team. Reading the Harvard thread is so disturbing and sad. I hope they move fast in making some changes. I felt so bad for those seniors crumbling to the ice after the game. But give Yale credit. They overcame some early adversity in game one and just stayed the course. Hartje set a program record for assists (beat her program record from last year; prior record had stood for 36 years) and she keeps distancing herself from the rest as far as points and plus/minus, blocked shots, etc. Don't see many forwards leading a team in blocked shots. Yale isn't flashy, but they just keep getting the job done. Bulldogs are going to be a tough out with their style of play.
Can't wait to see the pairings for next weekend. Should be exciting.