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Brendan Shanahan - The biggest joke of the NHL?????

GopherBigGuy911

The one you hate to love
Michael Russo's Sunday Insider: Disciplinarian Shanahan defends decisions
Article by: Star Tribune Updated: December 31, 2011 - 6:54 PM
Conspiracy talk notwithstanding, NHL disciplinarian Brendan Shanahan insists, laughing, he's no Wild hater.

The second it became apparent that Colorado's Cody McLeod would escape punishment for checking the Wild's Jared Spurgeon from behind on Monday, I got pelted with e-mails and tweets.

"Brendan Shanahan's a joke." "A Wild player's got to lose a limb for the league to notice." "Why does Shanahan hate Minnesota?"

Wednesday morning, I e-mailed NHL headquarters and basically demanded an explanation for how it's possible that for the fourth time since Nov. 30, a Wild opponent has skated away spank-free for a questionable incident toward a Wild player.

Obviously Shanahan, the longtime power forward who has taken over NHL discipline from oft-criticized Colin Campbell, loathes Minnesota, right? He annoyed by our funny accents? Chow down some bad chicken wild rice soup last time he was here?

I landed in Nashville and had an e-mail to call Shanahan.

"Believe it or not, there's not some conspiracy in New York or within me against the state of Minnesota or Minnesota Wild," Shanahan said. "Earlier this month, I was at the same hotel as the Wild in San Jose and I sat around and had a few beers and told some stories and had some laughs with Matt Cullen and Devin Setoguchi and Dany Heatley."

Shanahan began to laugh.

"I remember when I played for the Rangers. We were playing the Devils. It was probably my 20th year of hockey and for years, you always heard the Devils get all the calls because the refs are so intimidated by [General Manager Lou Lamoriello]."

Shanahan said he yelled at referee Don VanMassenhoven that he shouldn't give any breaks to New Jersey "just because it's Lou and the Devils." The next season, Shanahan played for the Devils, and his new teammates claimed the Rangers got all the breaks. After a penalty in one game, Shanahan jokingly told, coincidentally, the same ref not to favor the Rangers.

"Everyone loves conspiracy theories," Shanahan said. "I deal with passionate GMs and players every day. I can't pay much attention to fanatics. I just do the job."

On Nov. 30, Edmonton's Ryan Whitney injured Cal Clutterbuck with a knee. On Dec. 13, Pierre-Marc Bouchard broke his nose after being boarded by Winnipeg's Zach Bogosian. On Dec. 22, Marek Zidlicky was checked from behind by Edmonton's Lennart Petrell. Then, Monday, Spurgeon was injured.

Shanahan went through each incident with me and explained his reasoning for not rendering discipline (see www.startribune.com/russo). He also called Wild GM Chuck Fletcher on Tuesday.

Shanahan painted me a picture of how supplemental discipline works. On a daily basis, he'll e-mail 14 people clips of questionable hits with the subject, "Thoughts?" That group includes such people as Rob Blake, Kris King, Stephane Quintal, Kay Whitmore and Mike Murphy.

"In a job that is very subjective, I think our group is the best at it," Shanahan said. "We have a mental catalog of hundreds and hundreds of hits and we see patterns that to us prove intent and lack of intent.

"It's an important job. I could really care less about pats on the back. What I care about is over time trying to develop something that makes it safer for players to play while at the same time making sure players are still able to body check."

On any decision to suspend or not suspend, somebody (or many somebodys) will be upset. But transparency is the key to this thankless job.

"Sometimes people want to say we're not clear or confusing, but they never pick up the phone to ask us," Shanahan said. "Whether you agree or disagree, in the end, we expose all of our work."

I talked to Shanahan for 20 minutes. I still don't like the ruling -- McLeod could have ridden Spurgeon into the boards rather than drive a vulnerable player with a check across the numbers.

But I also know Shanahan doesn't hate Minnesota.

- All of his excuses are complete BULL SHAT. You bench PMJ for having an opposing player lift a stick into his own face and yet come up with complete cow patties as excuses not to penalize two blatant hits from behind????? The NHL, Shanahan, and their supplemental disciplinary process is a JOKE.
 
Re: Brendan Shanahan - The biggest joke of the NHL?????

Shanahan is doing a much better job that what the NHL had previously in Campbell's wheel of justice.
 
Re: Brendan Shanahan - The biggest joke of the NHL?????

Yeah, adjust your tinfoil hat. Especially the way he walks through the hits, and explains why Hit A is different or the same as Hit B....I have no complaints.
 
Re: Brendan Shanahan - The biggest joke of the NHL?????

I don't agree with a few of his rulings, but I don't think he has a vendetta against the Wild.
 
Re: Brendan Shanahan - The biggest joke of the NHL?????

I've always found it ironic that Shanahan is the all-time NHL leader in Gordie Howe Hat Tricks.
 
Re: Brendan Shanahan - The biggest joke of the NHL?????

Yeah, adjust your tinfoil hat. Especially the way he walks through the hits, and explains why Hit A is different or the same as Hit B....I have no complaints.
No one ever said he had it out for the Wild, I am saying his "reasoning" is complete SHAT.
 
Re: Brendan Shanahan - The biggest joke of the NHL?????

They did that to avoid the instigator penalty. I don't consider that a fake fight.
They did that? It happens quite often. And I don't like it as part of the game. If a fight happens as a result of the action, that's one thing. If a fight is agreed upon, I don't like it, it's staged and therefore I call it a fake fight. It's yet one more reason I prefer college hockey.
 
Re: Brendan Shanahan - The biggest joke of the NHL?????

They did that? It happens quite often. And I don't like it as part of the game. If a fight happens as a result of the action, that's one thing. If a fight is agreed upon, I don't like it, it's staged and therefore I call it a fake fight. It's yet one more reason I prefer college hockey.

Yeah, it happened quite a bit. Other times, an enforcer might "owe" a fight, and they'll ask. Please tell me you've read "The Code.":eek:
 
Re: Brendan Shanahan - The biggest joke of the NHL?????

No, I've not read it.

You must. It provides a TON of insight into the nuances of fighting/enforcing. From back in the day, until now. Discusses the Bertuzzi incident and the McSorley incident, too.
 
Re: Brendan Shanahan - The biggest joke of the NHL?????

Here's a link to a USA Today article with the author of The Code:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/2007-04-04-fighting_N.htm

Pertaining to your "fake fights:"

Rules of engagement. When one issues the universal challenge, "Want to go?" both typically drop their gloves at the same time to avoid a two-minute instigator penalty. It's bad form for a tough guy fresh off the bench to challenge another who's tired at the end of his shift, says Bernstein. There's professional courtesy. Fedoruk says he has declined to pick fights with rivals recovering from a broken hand, stitches or a facial injury.
 
Re: Brendan Shanahan - The biggest joke of the NHL?????

Sorry but I agree those are fake fights. Fights that come as a part of play are one thing...two guys pulling that crap look like wussies not like tough guys.
 
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