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Bad Parent Behavior
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Blackbeard
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Re: Bad Parent Behavior
This guy needs to spend 5 minutes in a dark alley with the other team's parents...and then be charged with assault on the goalie and be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And when that's done, he needs to spend 10 more minutes in same said alley with same said parents just to make sure that he doesn't miss the point.
This guy needs to spend 5 minutes in a dark alley with the other team's parents...and then be charged with assault on the goalie and be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And when that's done, he needs to spend 10 more minutes in same said alley with same said parents just to make sure that he doesn't miss the point.
It won't take five minutes. Within a minute, this guy will be dismembered beyond recognition. Saves the taxpayers and the Commonwealth much needed dough.
notfromaroundhere
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Re: Bad Parent Behavior
I read through to some of the related links and am surprised that the MIAA didn't call a forefeit after the fact, if in fact the goalie's eyes were injured by the laser pointer. To heck with replaying the 3rd period (with a different goalie I am assuming here). Yup, a bunch of girls who didn't do anything wrong would be punished, but that is the case regardless of who moves on. Given the reported pattern of this kind of antic and the alleged "taken care of" comments, I would say the program needs to be held responsible for the behavior of the parents.
And even if they do not forfeit the game, any future games this season should be played without that teams parents in the building. I wouldn't want my daughter's team playing in a building where the parents have been doing this.
I read through to some of the related links and am surprised that the MIAA didn't call a forefeit after the fact, if in fact the goalie's eyes were injured by the laser pointer. To heck with replaying the 3rd period (with a different goalie I am assuming here). Yup, a bunch of girls who didn't do anything wrong would be punished, but that is the case regardless of who moves on. Given the reported pattern of this kind of antic and the alleged "taken care of" comments, I would say the program needs to be held responsible for the behavior of the parents.
And even if they do not forfeit the game, any future games this season should be played without that teams parents in the building. I wouldn't want my daughter's team playing in a building where the parents have been doing this.
It won't take five minutes. Within a minute, this guy will be dismembered beyond recognition. Saves the taxpayers and the Commonwealth much needed dough.
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Was reading a bunch of the articles from different papers about this very pathetic incident...however according to most of the other (and more well-written) articles, after the parent was removed for shining the laser all around the opposing teams defensive zone (the losing teams goaltender even said the laser was being waved around the whole zone and was not just aimed at her eyes) the referees met with both coaches and school administrators and determined that there had been no complaints from the players to their coaches that they had been adversely affected by the laser...at which point the referees determined the game should continue.
I'm not making excuses for anyone...this is absolutely despicable and no punishment will be strong enough, IMO...but I don't think there's any evidence that the game should be forfeited. They immediately removed the guy and banned him, and nobody complained that they had been affected in a way that impaired their ability to play until after the game.
Was reading a bunch of the articles from different papers about this very pathetic incident...however according to most of the other (and more well-written) articles, after the parent was removed for shining the laser all around the opposing teams defensive zone (the losing teams goaltender even said the laser was being waved around the whole zone and was not just aimed at her eyes) the referees met with both coaches and school administrators and determined that there had been no complaints from the players to their coaches that they had been adversely affected by the laser...at which point the referees determined the game should continue.
I'm not making excuses for anyone...this is absolutely despicable and no punishment will be strong enough, IMO...but I don't think there's any evidence that the game should be forfeited. They immediately removed the guy and banned him, and nobody complained that they had been affected in a way that impaired their ability to play until after the game.
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Very true. It was probably up to one or more players on the ice to go to the referees and the coach of Medway-Ashland to protest the actions of the parent and have the game stopped at that point to deal with the situation. The refs then should have made sure that all players were okay and ready to continue play before proceeding. But since no one protested, they were correct in saying that had no grounds to overturn the final score. Replaying a period is a tough proposition although certainly feasible.
I'm not sure I would ban all parents because most parents are good folks who truly care about the kids, both their own and those participating in the game. It is however disappointing to learn this particular parent has been kicked out of other games and has a history of this behavior. That alone should have warranted his being barred from the game from the get-go.
Very true. It was probably up to one or more players on the ice to go to the referees and the coach of Medway-Ashland to protest the actions of the parent and have the game stopped at that point to deal with the situation. The refs then should have made sure that all players were okay and ready to continue play before proceeding. But since no one protested, they were correct in saying that had no grounds to overturn the final score. Replaying a period is a tough proposition although certainly feasible.
I'm not sure I would ban all parents because most parents are good folks who truly care about the kids, both their own and those participating in the game. It is however disappointing to learn this particular parent has been kicked out of other games and has a history of this behavior. That alone should have warranted his being barred from the game from the get-go.
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In fairness to the school/administrators, unless some of the articles that I read yesterday have been updated today, I haven't seen it addressed in any of the other articles that there was a history of this sort of behavior...only in the one posted at the top of the thread that makes the claim but provides no evidence that it actually happened...which is obviously not very good journalism.
Even if it has happened before...what if it was for yelling at the refs? I've seen plenty of parents end up in that kind of situation...is it right? No, of course not...adults should be able to keep the game in perspective and control themselves but in the heat of the moment sometimes things happen. Don't think an incident like that...while it can be called a "prior incident"...would be deserving of a lifetime ban unless it was something that was happening repetitively and he had been warned. This incident here is obviously the kind of thing that doesn't warrant any kind of warning. One and done...and it seems like the school did that so I at least give them credit for that.
EDIT: Just saw an updated article from today that says this parent was accused of doing this last year and was removed from the game. So, if that is in fact true I agree the guy should not have been allowed in the building...however I still don't think there is evidence enough to replay the game or period where in this instance nobody complained that it had affected them negatively until after the game when they had lost
In fairness to the school/administrators, unless some of the articles that I read yesterday have been updated today, I haven't seen it addressed in any of the other articles that there was a history of this sort of behavior...only in the one posted at the top of the thread that makes the claim but provides no evidence that it actually happened...which is obviously not very good journalism.
Even if it has happened before...what if it was for yelling at the refs? I've seen plenty of parents end up in that kind of situation...is it right? No, of course not...adults should be able to keep the game in perspective and control themselves but in the heat of the moment sometimes things happen. Don't think an incident like that...while it can be called a "prior incident"...would be deserving of a lifetime ban unless it was something that was happening repetitively and he had been warned. This incident here is obviously the kind of thing that doesn't warrant any kind of warning. One and done...and it seems like the school did that so I at least give them credit for that.
EDIT: Just saw an updated article from today that says this parent was accused of doing this last year and was removed from the game. So, if that is in fact true I agree the guy should not have been allowed in the building...however I still don't think there is evidence enough to replay the game or period where in this instance nobody complained that it had affected them negatively until after the game when they had lost
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notfromaroundhere
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Re: Bad Parent Behavior
I've been at games where someone has brought in a laser pointer. It wasn't 5 minutes and the rest of the parents (from the same team) were all over this knucklehead. It is very obvious when someone is doing this and to say that the good parents were unaware and doing nothing stretches my imagination a bit. And if the school didn't send out a notice to all parents about this type of activity identifying who did it and warning everyone else after the first time, they should have the parents banned for allowing it to happen the second time. Tough lesson to learn, but it will do a lot to clean things up in the stands.
I've been at games where someone has brought in a laser pointer. It wasn't 5 minutes and the rest of the parents (from the same team) were all over this knucklehead. It is very obvious when someone is doing this and to say that the good parents were unaware and doing nothing stretches my imagination a bit. And if the school didn't send out a notice to all parents about this type of activity identifying who did it and warning everyone else after the first time, they should have the parents banned for allowing it to happen the second time. Tough lesson to learn, but it will do a lot to clean things up in the stands.
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I recall that when this first broke WHDH-TV (Channel 7 in Boston) reported that he had been escorted out of a Winthrop game against Wilmington last year for the same thing, using a laser pointer on the opposing goalie. Winthrop should have banned the parent from all games on their own. Given the past history Winthrop should have voluntarily forfeited the game. He is not named in the article but I am sure his girl is ashamed of her dad.
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Fox has an article about the wilmington game here:
http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news...nt-occurred-against-winthrop-in-past-20120302
I recall that when this first broke WHDH-TV (Channel 7 in Boston) reported that he had been escorted out of a Winthrop game against Wilmington last year for the same thing, using a laser pointer on the opposing goalie. Winthrop should have banned the parent from all games on their own. Given the past history Winthrop should have voluntarily forfeited the game. He is not named in the article but I am sure his girl is ashamed of her dad.
Edited to add:
Fox has an article about the wilmington game here:
http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news...nt-occurred-against-winthrop-in-past-20120302
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taz91
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Re: Bad Parent Behavior
This kind of stuff is getting out of control. I don't know why so many parents feel the need to be involved in their child's game. The scary part is it's in all sports. We had a incident here in Minnesota a few months ago where a dad jumped a league director in youth basketball because he didn't like the officials he was using. Maybe it's time for a zero tolerence rule for parents. You screw up once and you are banned for life and face plastered all over every arena in a five state area. I think we all agree that the game is supposed to be for the kids, not mom and dad.
On another note, I did see reading the comments from one of the news stations out of Boston that some parents are talking about suing the dad because of lost scholarship opportunities. Here is the other delusion that is leading to these idiot parents. Guess what, maybe 2% of high school student athletes are going to get an athletic scholarship. Start saving now so you don't need to rely on that.
This kind of stuff is getting out of control. I don't know why so many parents feel the need to be involved in their child's game. The scary part is it's in all sports. We had a incident here in Minnesota a few months ago where a dad jumped a league director in youth basketball because he didn't like the officials he was using. Maybe it's time for a zero tolerence rule for parents. You screw up once and you are banned for life and face plastered all over every arena in a five state area. I think we all agree that the game is supposed to be for the kids, not mom and dad.
On another note, I did see reading the comments from one of the news stations out of Boston that some parents are talking about suing the dad because of lost scholarship opportunities. Here is the other delusion that is leading to these idiot parents. Guess what, maybe 2% of high school student athletes are going to get an athletic scholarship. Start saving now so you don't need to rely on that.
Re: Bad Parent Behavior
Finally named the idiot, and in the process I'm sure embarrassed the heck out of his daughter. Stand up guy to put his daughter in the line of fire for his stupidity.
http://www.necn.com/03/06/12/Father-of-youth-hockey-player-faces-char/landing_newengland.html?blockID=664728&feedID=4206
Even worse is he'll get off with basically a slap on the wrist if that is all they are going to charge him with.
Finally named the idiot, and in the process I'm sure embarrassed the heck out of his daughter. Stand up guy to put his daughter in the line of fire for his stupidity.
http://www.necn.com/03/06/12/Father-of-youth-hockey-player-faces-char/landing_newengland.html?blockID=664728&feedID=4206
Even worse is he'll get off with basically a slap on the wrist if that is all they are going to charge him with.
taz91
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Re: Bad Parent Behavior
To be honest, I think the DA had to do some creative work to come up with that charge. I don't know what else they could've come up with because there was no proof of any physical harm. I'm going to guess his poor daughter will be in hiding. Pretty sad that his daughter will be punished more than him.
To be honest, I think the DA had to do some creative work to come up with that charge. I don't know what else they could've come up with because there was no proof of any physical harm. I'm going to guess his poor daughter will be in hiding. Pretty sad that his daughter will be punished more than him.
I was thinking disorderly conduct at least.
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Exactly. I feel for the girl. Her punishment will be worse than her dad's even though he was the idiot who caused this in the first place. Sometimes I wonder if adults should take some sort of test to see if they really are fit to be parents. I don't know what would constitute such a test but I'm sure it would reduce the number of mind numbing incidents like the one we are currently discussing.
Exactly. I feel for the girl. Her punishment will be worse than her dad's even though he was the idiot who caused this in the first place. Sometimes I wonder if adults should take some sort of test to see if they really are fit to be parents. I don't know what would constitute such a test but I'm sure it would reduce the number of mind numbing incidents like the one we are currently discussing.
taz91
Registered User
Re: Bad Parent Behavior
You know, I think I have a better idea for his punishment. Considering we are talking the Boston area and home of the Revolutionary War, let's do some punishment from that era. Do you think anyone could find an old stock like they used then? Put him in the stocks on display for all to see. Maybe put a few laser pointers out there for the spectators to try?
As far as a test for parents, just ban them unless they can prove a maturity level higher than the student section.
You know, I think I have a better idea for his punishment. Considering we are talking the Boston area and home of the Revolutionary War, let's do some punishment from that era. Do you think anyone could find an old stock like they used then? Put him in the stocks on display for all to see. Maybe put a few laser pointers out there for the spectators to try?
As far as a test for parents, just ban them unless they can prove a maturity level higher than the student section.