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2009-2010 NHL Season Part 3: After The Gold Rush

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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Obligatory "Bettman Sucks!" post to get this thread off to a proper start. ;)
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Especially since he is talking about not having NHL players in Sochi. I hope he realizes that people are talking about hockey due to the Olympics. Wise up and commit to it.
 
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MountieBoyOz said:
Especially since he is talking about not having NHL players in Sochi. I hope he realizes that people are talking about hockey due to the Olympics. Wise up and commit to it.
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Oh, no, he can't tip his hand. It might prevent him from expanding to Mexico. :rolleyes:
 
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After watching last nights game, the NHL is going to be a let down, isn't it?
 
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walrus said:
After watching last nights game, the NHL is going to be a let down, isn't it?
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I think regardless of your rooting interests, yes it could be. :D

Maybe the NHL will allow two teams no one cares about to make the Finals again like they did in 2006 to make it easier to be let down.
 
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You guys realize that Sochi is 8 friggin' hours ahead of the Eastern time zone, right? By 2014, we'll be getting video updates on our fingernails telling us Olympic scores. The Russians want to go home and play. I understand that. The Euros will like it because the games will be on at 10am/1pm/4pm or so.

America? Yeah. Based on this year's schedule, the late game will be starting at 4pm. Early games? 7am and 11am. In Minnesota? 6/10/3. Out west? 4am.

The 2014 Olympics are utterly worthless to the NHL. No one remembers jack squat from Torino or Nagano because the games were on at ****ty times, not just because the Americans and Canadians blew goat balls. Why you guys are expecting Bettman and the owners to bend over and take it in the *** on this is confusing to me, aside from the entertainment value of that venture.
 
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bronconick said:
You guys realize that Sochi is 8 friggin' hours ahead of the Eastern time zone, right? By 2014, we'll be getting video updates on our fingernails telling us Olympic scores. The Russians want to go home and play. I understand that. The Euros will like it because the games will be on at 10am/1pm/4pm or so.

America? Yeah. Based on this year's schedule, the late game will be starting at 4pm. Early games? 7am and 11am. In Minnesota? 6/10/3. Out west? 4am.

The 2014 Olympics are utterly worthless to the NHL. No one remembers jack squat from Torino or Nagano because the games were on at ****ty times, not just because the Americans and Canadians blew goat balls. Why you guys are expecting Bettman and the owners to bend over and take it in the *** on this is confusing to me, aside from the entertainment value of that venture.
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How exactly are they losing money? I didn't see them take games off the 82 game schedule.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
How exactly are they losing money? I didn't see them take games off the 82 game schedule.
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They lose money because they used to run the Canada Cup/World Cup of Hockey and take all the ticket money and cfrom that and put it in their pocket. Now, the IOC and IIHF takes all the ticket money because the players want to be in the Olympics.

That doesn't count the fact that there are a finite amount of arena events to fill in the two weeks that 29 or 30 arenas sit dormant.

Now that I've answered your question, you can explain to me why the owners would voluntarily agree with no strings or profit attached to sending their meal tickets across the globe to play games on MSNBC or whatever cable network they get shoved on by whoever buys the 2014 and on games at 6 in the morning. You'd call it utterly stupid if they had the Swedish/Czech NHL games next year on at 7am Eastern, so why is it genius and a chance to "show off" the game if we put flags on them?

All that said, I expect that they'll be in Russia in 4 years. But it'll cost the players a year of free agency or something, because it's not in the NHL's best interest.
 
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bronconick said:
They lose money because they used to run the Canada Cup/World Cup of Hockey and take all the ticket money and cfrom that and put it in their pocket. Now, the IOC and IIHF takes all the ticket money because the players want to be in the Olympics.

That doesn't count the fact that there are a finite amount of arena events to fill in the two weeks that 29 or 30 arenas sit dormant.

Now that I've answered your question, you can explain to me why the owners would voluntarily agree with no strings or profit attached to sending their meal tickets across the globe to play games on MSNBC or whatever cable network they get shoved on by whoever buys the 2014 and on games at 6 in the morning. You'd call it utterly stupid if they had the Swedish/Czech NHL games next year on at 7am Eastern, so why is it genius and a chance to "show off" the game if we put flags on them?

All that said, I expect that they'll be in Russia in 4 years. But it'll cost the players a year of free agency or something, because it's not in the NHL's best interest.
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You sound a little bitter and anti-Olympics and pro-NHL-Betteman-Owners. Hockey is an international sport. This event brings pride and good will to all the nations that supply America/Canada with their talented players to play hockey. I've got to imagine the PR of allowing Ovechkin and Crosby to play for their country in the Olympics has got to be worth more than having their arena dormant for a couple of days (book a concert or two?).

I fail to see how this isn't in the NHL's best interest. Course the NHL under current management thinks that hockey is an American sport even though all their talent comes from somewhere else.

Probably like most things just a lot of whiny billionaires.
 
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I do wonder if the NHL owners are still harboring bad feelings over the 1998 Olympics in Japan, although I would've thought that would've been taken care of in the Labor wars of 2004.

Obviously the time aspect throws things off, but picking and choosing which games to have the NHL participate in seems awfully petty. Sometimes the benefits of the sacrifice outweigh the issues.
 
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GreatLakerMohawk said:
I do wonder if the NHL owners are still harboring bad feelings over the 1998 Olympics in Japan, although I would've thought that would've been taken care of in the Labor wars of 2004.

Obviously the time aspect throws things off, but picking and choosing which games to have the NHL participate in seems awfully petty. Sometimes the benefits of the sacrifice outweigh the issues.
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It's a narrow view to have NHL representation at North American Winter Olympics only. I'm sure the KHL will let their players go to Sochi. I'd love to see Ovechkin in front of his home fans fighting a medal. The Olympics are creating a buzz for the NHL product and I think it will continue if they go over in 2014.

And here's an idea... start the season a week or two earlier to compensate for the loss of league games.
 
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GreatLakerMohawk said:
I do wonder if the NHL owners are still harboring bad feelings over the 1998 Olympics in Japan, although I would've thought that would've been taken care of in the Labor wars of 2004.

Obviously the time aspect throws things off, but picking and choosing which games to have the NHL participate in seems awfully petty. Sometimes the benefits of the sacrifice outweigh the issues.
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I think Vancouver made them going to Torino a guarantee, since it's pretty obvious how childish you're being if you're in Salt Lake and Vancouver, but bail out of Italy. We're now looking at 12-16 years before it's back on the North American continent now, though. TV ratings aren't as good across the board when the games are elsewhere, and I can only guess what kind of media exists 4 or 8 years from now that makes the current NBC tape delay setup look even more prehistoric.

Heck, the Olympics might not even be on network TV in 2014 if ESPN outbids everyone. What if all the hockey events are only on ESPN360 or its successor?
 
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bronconick said:
Heck, the Olympics might not even be on network TV in 2014 if ESPN outbids everyone. What if all the hockey events are only on ESPN360 or its successor?
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And we all know how much ESPN LOVES hockey. :D :D

The EPL gets more coverage than the NHL.
 
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I don't think it will be announced/made official to tomorrow, but the Predators appear to have landed a new sponsor for their arena, following the dissolution of the agreement with Sommet.

Bridgestone has stepped up and will take over naming rights. I don't know what the arena will officially be called yet - I'd assume Bridgestone Arena or the Bridgestone Center.

You can all rest easy now. :p In all seriousness, much needed for the plight of hockey here in Nashville.
 
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