COVID-19 - Part 2

[Dutchman]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

THIS terrifying animation shows how coronavirus particles from a single cough can hang in the air "several minutes" and spread across two aisles of a supermarket.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/113597...arket-lingers/

So much for the six feet stuff .....

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/113597...arket-lingers/

The scientists involved say that the best way to avoid catching the virus is to stay away from busy public spaces like shops and stations.

Professor Ville Vuorinen of Aalto University in Finland told the BBC: "If you go there, only go there seldom as possible. Stay there as short a time as possible"

In a statement accompanying the video, the researchers said: "Preliminary results indicate that aerosol particles carrying the virus can remain in the air longer than was originally thought, so it is important to avoid busy public indoor spaces.

Great ... any more good news?

[net presence]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

QUOTE=Chuck Murray;6937156]Wide range of discussion topics with some decent questions (others less so), so let's start here ...


Chuck, first, you do realize that the few models predicting a worst case scenario of 1-2 million deaths in the U.S. is based on doing zero social distancing/sheltering-in-place for the first 18 months. Most models actually were only predicting worst case death scenarios of around 450K. However, with effective mitigation, that number dropped to 100K-200K. Thus, if they're now adjusting it down to 50K-100K, that's not nearly the degree of "miss" on the predictions. Regardless, the fact you're getting all high and mighty about your criticism of these scientists is laughable. Here is a link to an article in "The Scientist" about how difficult it is trying to model this

virus:https://www.the-scientist.com/news-o...pandemic-67261

From the article:

Left unchecked, infectious outbreaks typically plateau and then start to decline when the disease runs out of available hosts. But it’s almost impossible to make any sensible projection right now about when that will be, Boni says, or about how many people will ultimately be affected. Modelers can try, but to do so they need much better information, such as how many people infected show natural immunity.

Most of these forward-looking “scenario planning” models currently assume everyone on the planet is susceptible, Edmunds says. Only better surveillance and data, in particular, from serum tests that would indicate whether people have been exposed to the virus whether or not they developed symptoms, will make those calculations more realistic. “At the moment, we’ve got no data to tie that model down. But as the epidemic proceeds and everytime more data comes out, like every day or every week, we refit the model and then we redo our projections.”

If you take the time to read the entire article, you'll see just how difficult modeling this virus truly is. As often seems to be the case, your "argument" falls apart when exposed to accurate information. Next, regarding Hillary. I'm not a fan either and, thankfully, I didn't need to vote for her (although it was much closer than expected in Minnesota). I have to say that your attempt to conflate Hillary calling the 38% that makes up Trump's base "deplorables" as meaning she was calling them "racists, sexists, etc..yada, yada, yada." is kind of cute. Completely ridiculous but cute. Sorry, you can't automatically assume that's what she meant. You're getting desperate Chuck. This moron -- he's literally got the emotional intelligence of a 12 year old -- is the absolute worst president we've ever had. Remember, I have actually voted for more Republicans for president than Democrats. Unfortunately, the party is now under the control of white nationalists like Stephen Miller, as well as individuals who obviously only really care about the 1%ers and corporations. It's unfortunate that someone who seems to be fairly intelligent can't see through the Fox News Fog...

Regarding your anti-science rant/global warming is a left wing hoax rant; it's interesting you choose to link to two non-scientists to try and sway the audience. If you really have any scintilla of actual open-mindedness that human affected global climate change just might, MIGHT, be occurring, then go to this link from the NASA website. Remember, these are the scientists and engineers responsible for moon landings, the space shuttle, and robots landing on mars for crying out loud. How do they gain from trying to propagate a "climate change hoax"?!?

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

From the article:

Scientific evidence for warming of the climate system is unequivocal.
- Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is extremely likely (greater than 95 percent probability) to be the result of human activity since the mid-20th century and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented over decades to millennia.1

Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale. This body of data, collected over many years, reveals the signals of a changing climate.

The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century.2 Their ability to affect the transfer of infrared energy through the atmosphere is the scientific basis of many instruments flown by NASA. There is no question that increased levels of greenhouse gases must cause the Earth to warm in response.

Ice cores drawn from Greenland, Antarctica, and tropical mountain glaciers show that the Earth’s climate responds to changes in greenhouse gas levels. Ancient evidence can also be found in tree rings, ocean sediments, coral reefs, and layers of sedimentary rocks. This ancient, or paleoclimate, evidence reveals that current warming is occurring roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming.3

The evidence for rapid climate change is compelling:

Chuck, here's another link to a PBS NOVA special called "Decoding the Weather Machine". I challenge you and any of our other climate change deniers to actually watch the entire show and come back and tell me there isn't absolutely any evidence for climate change affected/caused by human activity.

https://www.thirteen.org/programs/no...machine-vgqhot

Finally, I want to say ditto to aparch's response to your abortion talking point. To be clear, I don't approve of late term abortions except in the case of health of the mother, or if the pregnancy is a result of incest or rape. But please, I'd really like to hear your answer to the question aparch posed. If we're to consider that ball of cells a life that should be cherished at almost all costs, then in today's times, why wouldn't that child's mom receive the $500 from the Covid stimulus?

[Jimjamesak]

THIS terrifying animation shows how coronavirus particles from a single cough can hang in the air "several minutes" and spread across two aisles of a supermarket.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/113597...arket-lingers/

So much for the six feet stuff .....

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/113597...arket-lingers/

The scientists involved say that the best way to avoid catching the virus is to stay away from busy public spaces like shops and stations.

Professor Ville Vuorinen of Aalto University in Finland told the BBC: "If you go there, only go there seldom as possible. Stay there as short a time as possible"

In a statement accompanying the video, the researchers said: "Preliminary results indicate that aerosol particles carrying the virus can remain in the air longer than was originally thought, so it is important to avoid busy public indoor spaces.

Great ... any more good news?

I know this will fall on deaf (blind and dumb) ears but...


DON’T LINK THE SUN!!!

[Chuck Murray]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

Welcome to the Cafe, D-1ers!

Who's bright idea was this?

I guess when your guys couldn't stand the heat any more ... you had to pull a slimy retreat like this.

Yukking it up in the teachers' lounge ... how adorable!! Back to the safe space of your echo chamber.

SO weak. Not surprising, mind you, given the high snowflake content here. But just sooooo weak.

Your unconditional surrenders are accepted. The French Army ain't got nothing on you wusses.

And good luck with that Biden 2020 thingie … *bwaahahahahahahahahahaha …

* - I'm not laughing with you … I'm laughing at you. Over and out.

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

i guess when your guys couldn't stand the heat any more ... You had to pull a slimy retreat like this.

Yukking it up in the teachers' lounge ... How adorable!! Back to the safe space of your echo chamber.

So weak. Not surprising, mind you, given the high snowflake content here. But just sooooo weak.

Your unconditional surrenders are accepted. The french army ain't got nothing on you wusses.

And good luck with that biden 2020 thingie … *bwaahahahahahahahahahaha …

* - i'm not laughing with you … i'm laughing at you. Over and out.

k

[Kepler]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

Rover won't be lonely in Ignore, anyway.

[Kepler]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

There is no way we will see ECAC hockey next year. Ivy's will never allow students to return if there is even the slightest chance of another outbreak, which there surely will be.

We won't be seeing any hockey next year. People keep thinking this is going to be over and done with by July or August.

It isn't.

We'll be lucky to have an election.

[Chuck Murray]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYFefppqEtE

Own it.

[French Rage]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

Yes, because what we all really want is this tardbucket in the same forum as the non-dip**** thread. Truly amazing insight.

[Chuck Murray]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

Seems fitting …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA-10CfRfPQ

[Chuck Murray]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

Victory is ours!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90uPSya4ThY

[jflory81]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

It's like watching someone try to do a bat flip after they hit the ball straight up into the air. Although giving credit for making contact is probably being WAY too generous here.

[Kepler]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

It's like watching someone try to do a bat flip after they hit the ball straight up into the air.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2OfkJubMDI

[French Rage]

Re: COVID-19 - Part 2

It's like watching someone try to do a bat flip after they hit the ball straight up into the air. Although giving credit for making contact is probably being WAY too generous here.

So basically it's the Expos?

[aparch]

It's like watching someone try to do a bat flip after they hit the ball straight up into the air. Although giving credit for making contact is probably being WAY too generous here.

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