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  • Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    By leaving it to the voters, do you mean having voters implement independent districting commissions? Because outside of that, data mining has allowed republicans to maintain large majorities in certain state governments despite slight to overwhelming defeats in the popular vote. So outside of large demographic movements, it will be almost impossible to defeat those.
    In my state (MD), the Ds have full, veto proof control of the legislative process. The voters need to replace a few to eliminate the super majority. If they don't want to, then it is same old, same old.

    My county (Montgomery) is worse. We have a 9 member council, 5 elected by districts and 4 at-large. The Tacoma Park triangle (ultra progressive) controls a majority of council members. To change to 9 single member districts would require local and Annapolis approval. Not going to happen.
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    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      Lovely. Liberal states courts will strike liberal partisan gerrymandering down but conservative state courts will let conservative partisan gerrymandering stand.

      Once again, the dummies beat the smarties because they have no conscience.
      Exactly. The farmer with the shotgun just told the foxes to guard their own darn henhouses.
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      • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Lovely. Liberal states courts will strike liberal partisan gerrymandering down but conservative state courts will let conservative partisan gerrymandering stand.

        Once again, the dummies beat the smarties because they have no conscience.
        Correct. Liberals lose again. Because, well, reasons.
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        • Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
          Exactly. The farmer with the shotgun just told the foxes to guard their own darn henhouses.
          But it’s not the end of the world! A white older dude told us so.

          He is right- nothing will end for white men. It’s the minorities who lose their voices here, and many will for decades, but no reason to get bent out of shape

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          • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

            Lets take a more dispassionate look at gerrymandering now that the Feds are going to have a hands off approach (aside from blatant racism).

            Gooper gerrymanders: MI,WI,OH,TX,GA,NC

            Dem gerrymanders: IL, MD

            Michigan (citizens initiative) and North Carolina (Dems now control state supreme court) should take care of themselves. Yes I expect the GOP to try to hang on like grim death, but in both places the state courts aren't friendly to their position.

            Ohio - Passed some half measure to head off a citizens initiative. Basically it shortens the amount of time the new lines are in place if not a bipartisan agreement to 4 years. Total GOP control of Gov, legislature, courts.

            WI, TX, GA - not good. Dems p issed away chance at winning state supreme court this year in Wisconsin. Dispute between legislature and Gov goes to them (basically a reverse of Pennsylvania). Moderate chance at winning state House in Texas next year but again presumably dispute would go to GOP state supreme court. Same with Georgia.

            Potential Dem gerrymanders. On the bright side if you like fighting fire with fire, Dems now have total control of New York and after courts redrew racial gerrymander in state house are in a good spot for the same trifecta in Virginia. If the SCOTUS has now ruled that anything goes, lots of opportunity in these two states.

            So you could have a situation after 2020 where the GOP has gerrymandered TX, OH, GA and WI while Dems have done the same to NY, IL, VA and MD. That's a lot better than where we were after the last round of redistricting.
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              **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
              Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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              • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

                Originally posted by Rover View Post
                Lets take a more dispassionate look at gerrymandering now that the Feds are going to have a hands off approach (aside from blatant racism).

                Gooper gerrymanders: MI,WI,OH,TX,GA,NC

                Dem gerrymanders: IL, MD

                Michigan (citizens initiative) and North Carolina (Dems now control state supreme court) should take care of themselves. Yes I expect the GOP to try to hang on like grim death, but in both places the state courts aren't friendly to their position.

                Ohio - Passed some half measure to head off a citizens initiative. Basically it shortens the amount of time the new lines are in place if not a bipartisan agreement to 4 years. Total GOP control of Gov, legislature, courts.

                WI, TX, GA - not good. Dems p issed away chance at winning state supreme court this year in Wisconsin. Dispute between legislature and Gov goes to them (basically a reverse of Pennsylvania). Moderate chance at winning state House in Texas next year but again presumably dispute would go to GOP state supreme court. Same with Georgia.

                Potential Dem gerrymanders. On the bright side if you like fighting fire with fire, Dems now have total control of New York and after courts redrew racial gerrymander in state house are in a good spot for the same trifecta in Virginia. If the SCOTUS has now ruled that anything goes, lots of opportunity in these two states.

                So you could have a situation after 2020 where the GOP has gerrymandered TX, OH, GA and WI while Dems have done the same to NY, IL, VA and MD. That's a lot better than where we were after the last round of redistricting.
                I'm with you here. If the courts rule that partisan gerrymandering is ok, then it's time for the Democrats to become experts in using it and do so ruthlessly.
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                  • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    You gave us your real reason and that's unconstitutional so come back with a lie and we'll buy it.
                    "You didn't conceal your real reasons well enough, which are prejudicial and unconstitutional, so we had to rule that way. Come back with a better excuse next time".

                    More accurate.
                    What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                    • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post

                      This is where the Chump administration being full of grifters and fuk ups comes in handy. A more slick operation never allows evidence of the real reason behind this census question to see the light of day. Manufacturing a new reason to get through several courts that doesn't pass the laugh test is going to be pretty hard to do in time for sending out the census forms which is why Chump is tweeting out blatantly unconstitutional remedies to the situation.
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                      • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        Gerrymandering is about the GOP cheating in some states now. Census is about the GOP cheating in all states in the future. The consequences of the latter are far more devastating. Combined with their Gestapo raids on Latino homes they're on their way to their white nationalist homeland.

                        It's really noteworthy how no conservative will stand up against them. What a bunch of cowards.
                        Conservatives are afraid of the dark, funny-talking people too.
                        What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                        • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                          I'm with you here. If the courts rule that partisan gerrymandering is ok, then it's time for the Democrats to become experts in using it and do so ruthlessly.
                          Maryland is your case study.
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                          • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                            I'm with you here. If the courts rule that partisan gerrymandering is ok, then it's time for the Democrats to become experts in using it and do so ruthlessly.
                            Otherwise what’s the use in winning?
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                            • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

                              Originally posted by rufus View Post
                              "You didn't conceal your real reasons well enough, which are prejudicial and unconstitutional, so we had to rule that way. Come back with a better excuse next time".

                              More accurate.
                              You have to ask me nicely.

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                              • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

                                Very good 538 article on the Court makeup using the frequency that pairs of justices agree.
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