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  • #76
    Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa

    Originally posted by Reddington View Post
    Disagree and I will point to Yale - the new coach was brought in to coach the other guy's talent.

    Most coaches are on three year contracts and if you are hanging your hat on these are not your players - good luck with that.
    The new Yale coach has a freshman from the USA U18 team who is leading their team in points and a relatively strong sophomore class that led the team last year in points. I'd say he's ok when it comes to what he's inherited. All RPI had was an All-American caliber goaltender and now they don't.
    Some coaches inherit potential, and some coaches inherit a mess. RPI was a mess that was covered up by stellar goaltending and now that she's gone, it's coming to light. Either Vines is going to adjust and bring in players that can get the job done or he's not. I just don't see how you can judge him poorly, or the Yale coach highly, until they are coaching players that they made the decision to bring to their program.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by pucko View Post
      The new Yale coach has a freshman from the USA U18 team who is leading their team in points and a relatively strong sophomore class that led the team last year in points. I'd say he's ok when it comes to what he's inherited. All RPI had was an All-American caliber goaltender and now they don't.
      Some coaches inherit potential, and some coaches inherit a mess. RPI was a mess that was covered up by stellar goaltending and now that she's gone, it's coming to light. Either Vines is going to adjust and bring in players that can get the job done or he's not. I just don't see how you can judge him poorly, or the Yale coach highly, until they are coaching players that they made the decision to bring to their program.
      A mess is all relative - RIT was a mess as you would define and all of a sudden the players are not a mess. You can't have it both ways.

      RPI had a great year last year period. It will be tough to duplicate that success. I think they had a nice recruiting class, but overall the team has no size. That's not going away

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      • #78
        Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa

        Why are all of you saying they had a great year last year? I don't consider a below .500 team to great at all. They were one of the worst teams in the country last season too; they just had an All-World goaltender (who Vines inherited) to save their butts. They had one of the worst offenses in the country at 1.35 goals per game and had by far the worst Corsi in the country. It does not take more than 3 years to build at least an average team. The men's team looks average in Smith's third year right now with the potential to be better. Vines simply is not recruiting well; it's not a "too young" team or "has potential" team. They just flat out are not talented enough to compete. 9 goals in 11 games (with 4 of those coming from one game). Just pathetic. The sad part is that I knew this was coming once Selander graduated because the signs were all there.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by sezenack View Post
          Why are all of you saying they had a great year last year? I don't consider a below .500 team to great at all. They were one of the worst teams in the country last season too; they just had an All-World goaltender (who Vines inherited) to save their butts. They had one of the worst offenses in the country at 1.35 goals per game and had by far the worst Corsi in the country. It does not take more than 3 years to build at least an average team. The men's team looks average in Smith's third year right now with the potential to be better. Vines simply is not recruiting well; it's not a "too young" team or "has potential" team. They just flat out are not talented enough to compete. 9 goals in 11 games (with 4 of those coming from one game). Just pathetic. The sad part is that I knew this was coming once Selander graduated because the signs were all there.
          Give Vines another year and he’ll come close to losing 100 games in his women’s career. He’s gotta go. His recruits are not getting it done either.
          RPI will always be a tough recruiting school. Girls are going to have want to come there. They will never get top two line talent anywhere in NA. And never USA or Canadian National players. They will have better luck with Europeans and have shown the ability to find those top players.
          A change is needed now so as to start securing some new and different type players. Team needs size & strength. They have neither.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by RPI0007 View Post
            Give Vines another year and he’ll come close to losing 100 games in his women’s career. He’s gotta go. His recruits are not getting it done either.
            RPI will always be a tough recruiting school. Girls are going to have want to come there. They will never get top two line talent anywhere in NA. And never USA or Canadian National players. They will have better luck with Europeans and have shown the ability to find those top players.
            A change is needed now so as to start securing some new and different type players. Team needs size & strength. They have neither.
            Next 8 games: Quinnipiac, Princeton, RMU x 2, Bemidji x 2, Clarkson & SLU. Could close out the year with 8 more losses. That’s gonna leave a mark.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by RPI0007 View Post
              Give Vines another year and he’ll come close to losing 100 games in his women’s career. He’s gotta go. His recruits are not getting it done either.
              RPI will always be a tough recruiting school. Girls are going to have want to come there. They will never get top two line talent anywhere in NA. And never USA or Canadian National players. They will have better luck with Europeans and have shown the ability to find those top players.
              A change is needed now so as to start securing some new and different type players. Team needs size & strength. They have neither.
              Let's look at Union. They brought in a young hyped coach from the Fargo tree. Union was in a poor state or so they thought. Sciba did well with the other coaches players for the first year and tailed off every year and not so much with his players the longer it goes. He had better luck with the other guy's players.

              Does Union whack The Coach or is it Union reality?

              I think Sciba is a good coach.

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              • #82
                Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa

                Originally posted by RPI0007 View Post
                Still think they’re making the playoffs?
                Must finish in 8th
                Not a chance in ....
                this teams needs a serious makeover from top to bottom.
                RPI AD should soon take notice.
                When did I say they were going to make the playoffs?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by RPI0007 View Post
                  Getting out coached and out recruited. RPI was doing him a favor by letting him stay on after men’s team dismissal. Decision backfired. Can’t coach men or women. Time to change the whole staff. These girls aren’t playing for them anymore. Becoming the laughing stock of ECAC. They had a 10 game winning streak vs Brown. Embarrassing loss after 5 years. Stop making excuses for this team and coaching staff. Something has to change and it’s not the players.
                  Not gonna expound on this, but they didn’t do him any favors.
                  Uncle Mickey: July 23, 1950-July 22, 2003

                  WRPI, 91.5 FM...usually color commentary.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by jericho View Post
                    Not gonna expound on this, but they didn’t do him any favors.
                    He can’t effen coach peewee hockey
                    Stop the man crush, it’s over.
                    Time for a change

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by RPI0007 View Post
                      He can’t effen coach peewee hockey
                      Stop the man crush, it’s over.
                      Time for a change
                      Get prepared for 0-18-1

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                      • #86
                        Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa

                        Sara Bayne signs LOI

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                        • #87
                          Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa

                          a second

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                          • #88
                            Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa

                            Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
                            a second...
                            Odd that they didn't match the placard with the player, although there are 9 names/schools and 11 women. Unless a couple of those are Mission staff?

                            Anyway, thanks for sharing!
                            "... And lose, and start again at your beginnings
                            And never breathe a word about your loss;" -- Rudyard Kipling

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                            • #89
                              Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa

                              Anyone else having trouble getting RPITV online for the game tonight?

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                              • #90
                                Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa

                                Originally posted by ARM View Post
                                Odd that they didn't match the placard with the player, although there are 9 names/schools and 11 women. Unless a couple of those are Mission staff?

                                Anyway, thanks for sharing!
                                I suspect that those not wearing school sweatshirts are not players.
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