2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

[Rover]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

No one here said Obama was going to tear down Bernie. It was reported Obama said it. You can believe he said it and also believe it will never happen at the same time. We even posted a logical explanation as to why he would say it.

And given he spent 8 years bending over for Turtle Boy it's not a surprise in the slightest.

Please Scooby, you were all over this story like it was gospel. The only surprising thing here is that you're trying to backtrack. Your "logical" explanation was ridiculous which we told you in no uncertain terms. You should go work for the Trump campaign.

[Kepler]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

Please Scooby, you were all over this story like it was gospel. The only surprising thing here is that you're trying to backtrack. Your "logical" explanation was ridiculous which we told you in no uncertain terms. You should go work for the Trump campaign.

I don't get what you guys hope to gain by doing this. The more we tear each other down the more we are distracted and weakened for the only contest that matters.

You don't high stick in the intrasquad game.

[First Time, Long Time]

I don't get what you guys hope to gain by doing this. The more we tear each other down the more we are distracted and weakened for the only contest that matters.

You don't high stick in the intrasquad game.

Nothing said is going to flip someone here to vote for Trump. And idiocy shouldn't stand no matter what side you are on.

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

Please Scooby, you were all over this story like it was gospel. The only surprising thing here is that you're trying to backtrack. Your "logical" explanation was ridiculous which we told you in no uncertain terms. You should go work for the Trump campaign.

It's comical the way you people keep making things up like you can read my mind. You can't. Stop trying. Ridiculous? I'll bet all the candidates play "appease" the donor over and over and over again. Especially the clowns that take the big money. Biden, I'm looking right at you.

[Kepler]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

Nothing said is going to flip someone here to vote for Trump.

I know that but it isn't my point. The time we spend b-tching each other out is time we waste not finding ways to talk to each other, keep morale up, and craft messaging that will get our people to the polls and maybe convince that unicorn sliver of undecideds who I actually don't believe exist but maybe do in which case we need a strategy with them. Plus I've seen (committed) animosities between erstwhile rivals develop here that look like the very schisms between allies in the real world that we deplore.

And idiocy shouldn't stand no matter what side you are on.

This is just my opinion: let it alone. If an ally says something that's nonsense, let it die of loneliness. By responding to it you make it more important than it is -- you promote it from "just one person's opinion" to "the topic of conversation." You're breathing life into it.

I have been guilty of all the sins I am decrying here so I am a big fat hypocrite. I will probably do it again -- maybe even today. I'm saying I'm trying to change that behavior because I think it's destructive and in these actually perilous times we can't afford to commit own goals, and I'm asking others to consider acting likewise.

[First Time, Long Time]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

And you can...i won't.
"If you let idiocy and hypocrisy stand...idiocy and hypocrisy think it's ok."
Ignoring it doesn't make it go away.

[Rover]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

First Scooby writes:

It's comical the way you people keep making things up like you can read my mind. You can't. Stop trying.

But in the next sentence, he writes:

I'll bet all the candidates play "appease" the donor over and over and over again. Especially the clowns that take the big money. Biden, I'm looking right at you.

Sooo... don't read your mind, but trust you to read the minds of others? Okaaayyy then.

And you can...i won't.
"If you let idiocy and hypocrisy stand...idiocy and hypocrisy think it's ok."
Ignoring it doesn't make it go away.

Exactly right. Scooby's defeatism cannot be allowed to go unchecked. Saying Obama is working against certain Dem candidates is the kind of Russian intelligence agency trolling that the Republicans are counting on us to engage in. Darn right we should oppose it whenever it pops up.

[ScoobyDoo]

First Scooby writes:



But in the next sentence, he writes:



Sooo... don't read your mind, but trust you to read the minds of others? Okaaayyy then.



Exactly right. Scooby's defeatism cannot be allowed to go unchecked. Saying Obama is working against certain Dem candidates is the kind of Russian intelligence agency trolling that the Republicans are counting on us to engage in. Darn right we should oppose it whenever it pops up.

Again. That is NOT what was stated.

[Handyman]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

I don't get what you guys hope to gain by doing this. The more we tear each other down the more we are distracted and weakened for the only contest that matters.

You don't high stick in the intrasquad game.

ticap says this is what the Primaries are for

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

I don't get what you guys hope to gain by doing this. The more we tear each other down the more we are distracted and weakened for the only contest that matters.

You don't high stick in the intrasquad game.

I know that but it isn't my point. The time we spend b-tching each other out is time we waste not finding ways to talk to each other, keep morale up, and craft messaging that will get our people to the polls and maybe convince that unicorn sliver of undecideds who I actually don't believe exist but maybe do in which case we need a strategy with them. Plus I've seen (committed) animosities between erstwhile rivals develop here that look like the very schisms between allies in the real world that we deplore.






This is just my opinion: let it alone. If an ally says something that's nonsense, let it die of loneliness. By responding to it you make it more important than it is -- you promote it from "just one person's opinion" to "the topic of conversation." You're breathing life into it.

I have been guilty of all the sins I am decrying here so I am a big fat hypocrite. I will probably do it again -- maybe even today. I'm saying I'm trying to change that behavior because I think it's destructive and in these actually perilous times we can't afford to commit own goals, and I'm asking others to consider acting likewise.

You saw the Bill Maher "New Rule" from two weeks back, didn't you?

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

You saw the Bill Maher "New Rule" from two weeks back, didn't you?

Bill Maher hasn't been on his game since Trump was elected.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

[jerphisch]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

Online leftists killed Hickenlooper???? And they're the delusional ones?

[The Rube]

Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

Online leftists killed Hickenlooper???? And they're the delusional ones?

It's like beating Punchy Joe or whatever his name was on the old Nintendo's Punch-Out.

[unofan]

It's like beating Punchy Joe or whatever his name was on the old Nintendo's Punch-Out.

Glass Joe. Was a take off Glass Jaw.