POTUS: Definitely Needs Anger Management

[dxmnkd316]

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This should not be overlooked

If the SEC hasn't been totally politicized (a big If), it shouldn't be hard to match the Mar-a-Lago guests who heard Trump say to expect something big and their investments. https://t.co/F92SAHaLWP

— Jonathan Alter (@jonathanalter) January 6, 2020

I dug into this a little more, like, just barely and it falls apart pretty quickly.

Almost all stocks were up the same amount as defense contractors. Broad indices matched it. It wasn't until 1/3 when we started WWIII that those stocks really popped.

[rufus]

Pompeo is apparently a believer in End Times and the Rapture, so why would he be the level head in the room? Anyone who believes in that tripe and applies it to their daily life is beyond certifiable and should be nowhere near government.

If anyone believes anybody in this administration is going to go against Trump on anything, they're an idiot.

If Mattis and Kelly wouldn't do it, none of the remaining yes-men and sycophants are going to.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Oh, right, the Israel thing. That's why they love Israel so much. It all kind of blends together doesn't it.

Correct. They don't give a rat's arse about the Jews, they just want their precious Holy Land.

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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Bolton says he'll testify if subpoenaed by the Senate.

[Kepler]

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Bolton says he'll testify if subpoenaed by the Senate.

I'm ready if Beyonce calls me.

[St. Clown]

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I dug into this a little more, like, just barely and it falls apart pretty quickly.

Almost all stocks were up the same amount as defense contractors. Broad indices matched it. It wasn't until 1/3 when we started WWIII that those stocks really popped.

The thing is, though, while the guy reporting clearly doesn't understand what to look for in the crime, he's somewhat correct in the timeline of events of concern on this type of crime. The person guilty of insider trading would make a purchase or sale days or weeks before a big event happens. Presumably, this would be based upon information s/he has prior to the market as a whole. There doesn't have to be big news that same day, or even within the next couple days, only that it's on the horizon and people new how they could profit from the news. (E.g. Agent Orange tells all of his newly purchased friends that there's going to be a big military thing in the coming few days/weeks, and these newly acquired friends make their stock purchases/sales the same day or next day from that tip.)

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

The thing is, though, while the guy reporting clearly doesn't understand what to look for in the crime, he's somewhat correct in the timeline of events of concern on this type of crime. The person guilty of insider trading would make a purchase or sale days or weeks before a big event happens. Presumably, this would be based upon information s/he has prior to the market as a whole. There doesn't have to be big news that same day, or even within the next couple days, only that it's on the horizon and people new how they could profit from the news. (E.g. Agent Orange tells all of his newly purchased friends that there's going to be a big military thing in the coming few days/weeks, and these newly acquired friends make their stock purchases/sales the same day or next day from that tip.)

And that’s the issue- he’s selling access and info at his resort

[dxmnkd316]

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The thing is, though, while the guy reporting clearly doesn't understand what to look for in the crime, he's somewhat correct in the timeline of events of concern on this type of crime. The person guilty of insider trading would make a purchase or sale days or weeks before a big event happens. Presumably, this would be based upon information s/he has prior to the market as a whole. There doesn't have to be big news that same day, or even within the next couple days, only that it's on the horizon and people new how they could profit from the news. (E.g. Agent Orange tells all of his newly purchased friends that there's going to be a big military thing in the coming few days/weeks, and these newly acquired friends make their stock purchases/sales the same day or next day from that tip.)

Right but there’s absolutely no evidence this wasn’t the same bump nearly the entire market also had.

Look, I want to nail these people to the wall as much as anyone, but this is a complete nothing burger. The volumes were even down for many of the contractors.

Edit: That said, i agree there's probably enough insider trading happening at MAL to keep the IRS busy for years

[St. Clown]

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Right but there’s absolutely no evidence this wasn’t the same bump nearly the entire market also had.

Look, I want to nail these people to the wall as much as anyone, but this is a complete nothing burger. The volumes were even down for many of the contractors.

I think that's what you're missing, though. The stocks' performance prior to the US launching the first shots of its war with Iran is irrelevant. The fact that the people who were in Mar-a-Lago and made stock plays based upon what was said there had the potential to make good earnings. The exact performance of the stock is irrelevant after the fact.

[dxmnkd316]

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I think that's what you're missing, though. The stocks' performance prior to the US launching the first shots of its war with Iran is irrelevant. The fact that the people who were in Mar-a-Lago and made stock plays based upon what was said there had the potential to make good earnings. The exact performance of the stock is irrelevant after the fact.

Yes, that concept isn't lost on me. What I'm not seeing is any evidence in the original tweet of that.

I'm absolutely sure it's happening. But just because the stocks went up 2% on 1/2 doesn't mean there's insider trading.

[Handyman]

Correct. They don't give a rat's arse about the Jews, they just want their precious Holy Land.

Is that the PC way of saying they want gas us?

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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thisisfine.gifhttps://t.co/sxg377K0vk

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) January 6, 2020

[Kepler]

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Is that the PC way of saying they want gas us?

I'm sure the technology has improved.

[Handyman]

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I'm sure the technology has improved.

Yeah but their intelligence hasnt...

[WeAreNDHockey]

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I owe George W. Bush an apology. trump (and his administration) have been so glaringly, exceedingly, totally stupid, he makes GWB look like a downright average president by comparison. Reading about how he likely came to the conclusion the timing was right for a strike on Soleimani and the likelihood that this makes everything between America and BOTH Iran and Iraq worse is both startling and sad.

Notwithstanding the fact that trump is clearly guilty of bribery, money laundering with the Russians and a whole host of other real, actual crimes, his performance as president is so bad that the only reason he isn't already the most damaging president we've ever had is because a couple of the mid-19th century ones actually led us directly into a civil war with their shortcomings.

Please make sure you are doing something every day to ensure people turn out to vote in November. Have one conversation a day. Make one small donation. Arrange to take one additional person with you to a polling place. Volunteer to work with a get out the vote group in the fall for a day. Please.