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  • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

    Originally posted by The Rube View Post
    Roosevelt: 'I don’t go so far as to think that the only good Indians are the dead Indians, but I believe nine out of every 10 are'.

    Just saying, be consistent. If you are going to eliminate a name or monument for one, because s/he is racist, eliminate them all. Don't be a hypocrite.
    Without TR, the country would be entirely owned by about a dozen corporations today (*insert snarky comment from Kep here that it can't be much more than 13* )

    Without TR, there is no national park system.

    Without TR, we'd be eating ground rat turds labeled as beef.

    Without Calhoun, what positives does America miss out on?

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    • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

      Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
      Without TR, the country would be entirely owned by about a dozen corporations today (*insert snarky comment from Kep here that it can't be much more than 13* )

      Without TR, there is no national park system.

      Without TR, we'd be eating ground rat turds labeled as beef.

      Without Calhoun, what positives does America miss out on?
      They were both racists. That's the bottom line. That's what the "cause" is, with the Calhoun (and other) folk. They are racist, therefore, no place in this new history. Erase them. So, come one/come all, IMO. Otherwise leave it alone.

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      • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

        OK fine, you don't get it. Stand there and be wrong in your wrongness.

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        • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

          TR is just not the same thing. There are better examples I'm sure. Ramsey would be a good one...

          Why can't it just have both names? Does it really matter this much?
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          • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

            Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
            OK fine, you don't get it. Stand there and be wrong in your wrongness.
            Hey, you know, Hitler sorta united the country. He may be racist but he got people united! (Yes, I know of Godwin's Law, ignoring it to make a point).

            If one's point is to say eliminate the racist individuals, you cannot pick and choose. If the person is a racist, they are gone. If they aren't, they're good. Doesn't matter redemption. If you are using a base factor in these decisions, use them across the board.
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            • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

              Hitler also murdered 6+ million people, so that's just about the worst analogy you could've drawn.

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              • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                Hitler also murdered 6+ million people, so that's just about the worst analogy you could've drawn.
                I have said that, and Stalin was worse.

                I disagree with "Well, this guy was just racist, so eliminate his name" and then in the same breath "this guy was just as racist but he did some good things, so he's ok."

                Not in my book. I think it's BS.
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                • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                  Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                  TR is just not the same thing. There are better examples I'm sure. Ramsey would be a good one...

                  Why can't it just have both names? Does it really matter this much?
                  It matters to a bunch of triggered white denizens of Edina, apparently.

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                  • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                    It matters to a bunch of triggered white denizens of Edina, apparently.
                    To be fair lots of Minneapolis residents also care.

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                    • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                      Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                      To be fair lots of Minneapolis residents also care.
                      Shhhhhhh the Libs are talking.


                      Ok, total cheap shot, I mean no harm in that, I could not resist. It was purely for the lulz.
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                      • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                        Hitler also murdered 6+ million people, so that's just about the worst analogy you could've drawn.
                        he built roads!!!
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                        • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                          TR is just not the same thing. There are better examples I'm sure. Ramsey would be a good one...

                          Why can't it just have both names? Does it really matter this much?
                          Just call it the lake formerly known as Calhoun. This is Minnesota, after all.
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                          • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                            Originally posted by the rube View Post
                            i have said that, and stalin was worse.

                            I disagree with "well, this guy was just racist, so eliminate his name" and then in the same breath "this guy was just as racist but he did some good things, so he's ok."

                            not in my book. I think it's bs.
                            lmfao

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                            • Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                              I have said that, and Stalin was worse.
                              But the trains ran on time, so samsies?
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                              • Originally posted by aparch View Post
                                But the trains ran on time, so samsies?
                                Wasn't that Mussolini?
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