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    The media needs to come up with a new phrase to replace the incessant use of "too close to call." The Kentucky governor's election is not "too close to call." It looks to me like the democrat won by more than 5000 votes. In fact it is easy to "call."

    Maybe there will be a recount. Maybe the whining biatch the republicans ran will do the mature and proper thing and concede. But the race is not "too close to call."

    Say instead "with the polls closed and no more votes to be counted Beshear is 5000 votes ahead. His rival has yet to concede what appears to be a democratic win." That is factual and offers no commentary, how the news media should be going about reporting the news. Leave the rest to the editorializing talking heads.

    By repeating time and again the race is too close to call you invite people to look for "irregularities" that simply don't exist. Of course if further reporting shows things changing, or someone provides some verifiable evidence of "irregularities" by all means follow up and report on that data. Don't feed the narratives that have all but destroyed our institutions.

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        • Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
          Maybe there will be a recount. Maybe the whining biatch the republicans ran will do the mature and proper thing and concede. But the race is not "too close to call."
          If he concedes after all this Trumpian nonsense, he'll be dubbed a cuckservative. This will go to the courts. Meanwhile, expect the brownshirt Pubbie KY leg to strip the governor of powers, too. Like they did in NC and WI once it was clear they lost.

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            Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
            The media needs to come up with a new phrase to replace the incessant use of "too close to call." The Kentucky governor's election is not "too close to call." It looks to me like the democrat won by more than 5000 votes. In fact it is easy to "call."

            Maybe there will be a recount. Maybe the whining biatch the republicans ran will do the mature and proper thing and concede. But the race is not "too close to call."

            Say instead "with the polls closed and no more votes to be counted Beshear is 5000 votes ahead. His rival has yet to concede what appears to be a democratic win." That is factual and offers no commentary, how the news media should be going about reporting the news. Leave the rest to the editorializing talking heads.

            By repeating time and again the race is too close to call you invite people to look for "irregularities" that simply don't exist. Of course if further reporting shows things changing, or someone provides some verifiable evidence of "irregularities" by all means follow up and report on that data. Don't feed the narratives that have all but destroyed our institutions.
            Yup, 100% agree. Again, the media is not our friend. They too often do the GOP's bidding on stories like this because they're cowards. I will say though that in most stories I read, if you actually get down into it of course, they are making clear that Bevin is offering nothing to back up his allegations despite repeatedly being contacted to do so.

            Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
            If he concedes after all this Trumpian nonsense, he'll be dubbed a cuckservative. This will go to the courts. Meanwhile, expect the brownshirt Pubbie KY leg to strip the governor of powers, too. Like they did in NC and WI once it was clear they lost.
            I don't think he concedes for the reasons you stated, but rather he slowly fades away. The problem with going to court is there's no legal basis for contesting the election. I read the basis of the Gooper Senate leader's objection was that the libertarian vote would have gone Bevin so those should be allocated to him. A classic response to that was "you've had 3 years to implement ranked choice". You can't do that retroactively.
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              Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
              The media needs to come up with a new phrase to replace the incessant use of "too close to call." The Kentucky governor's election is not "too close to call." It looks to me like the democrat won by more than 5000 votes. In fact it is easy to "call."

              Maybe there will be a recount. Maybe the whining biatch the republicans ran will do the mature and proper thing and concede. But the race is not "too close to call."

              Say instead "with the polls closed and no more votes to be counted Beshear is 5000 votes ahead. His rival has yet to concede what appears to be a democratic win." That is factual and offers no commentary, how the news media should be going about reporting the news. Leave the rest to the editorializing talking heads.

              By repeating time and again the race is too close to call you invite people to look for "irregularities" that simply don't exist. Of course if further reporting shows things changing, or someone provides some verifiable evidence of "irregularities" by all means follow up and report on that data. Don't feed the narratives that have all but destroyed our institutions.
              Here's the rather obvious reply to the "irregularities"-

              Bevin- you and your cronies were in charge of this election. If you say there are real irregularities, that means you and your cronies are incompetent in doing the most basic service to the state- ensuring safe and secure elections. Therefore, no matter how the recount comes out, you are not capable of being a governor.

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                Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                Here's the rather obvious reply to the "irregularities"-

                Bevin- you and your cronies were in charge of this election. If you say there are real irregularities, that means you and your cronies are incompetent in doing the most basic service to the state- ensuring safe and secure elections. Therefore, no matter how the recount comes out, you are not capable of being a governor.
                In MN, the Secretary of State is in charge of elections. I won't pretend to know the setup in KY. Just food for thought.
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                  Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                  In MN, the Secretary of State is in charge of elections. I won't pretend to know the setup in KY. Just food for thought.
                  the russian party is in charge of the whole thing- regardless, and the leader of that russian party is Bevin. therefore they are all very, very incompetent.

                  Pass the buck all you want, if the governor can not get the elections safe and secure, then he's not directing the SOS all that well, is he? Incompetent.

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                    Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                    In MN, the Secretary of State is in charge of elections. I won't pretend to know the setup in KY. Just food for thought.
                    Mercifully the Secretary of State in KY is a Democrat. Otherwise we'd start seeing Katherine Harris type shenanigans. But the onus here would be for Bevin to show specifically that there's some problem, not "uh, dem dere's some ee-regularitees".
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                      Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                      the russian party is in charge of the whole thing- regardless, and the leader of that russian party is Bevin. therefore they are all very, very incompetent.

                      Pass the buck all you want, if the governor can not get the elections safe and secure, then he's not directing the SOS all that well, is he? Incompetent.
                      SoS is an elected official in most states, and does not directly report to the governor. In this case, the 2019 election turned the KY SoS from D to R.
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                      • Re: 2019 Elections

                        Bevin asked for a recanvassing of the votes that Lundergan Grimes, Kentucky‘s Secretary of State, said she received. The recanvassing is due by November 14, upon which it’ll be certified by November 25, since Beshear takes office on December 10. Kentucky has no avenue for an actual recount unless Bevin wants to pay for it. Even then, Kentucky’s statute for recounts excludes the governor’s race, so he’s need to claim a contest of the election (maybe the impetus for his “irregularities”” comment). At that point, a judge would have to agree with all of that for a recount to happen. It’s not going to happen.

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                          Somebody in Jersey wrote in Gritty for School Board.
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                          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            Somebody in Jersey wrote in Gritty for School Board.
                            Hope that was jersey islands
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                              As a result of the Democrats taking control of the Virginia legislature the Equal Rights Amendment will be ratified by the 38th state. A bill to eliminate the 1982 deadline for ratification will be introduced to the House of Representatives next week. Once it passes it will be up to the Senate. It will likely then die in the Senate, but it will put the Turtle and several of his GOP friends in a very uncomfortable position. So one more reason for Democrats to flip the US Senate in 2020 is the ratification of the ERA.

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                                Can’t see how that makes them uncomfortable however.
                                a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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