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  • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

    Originally posted by burd View Post
    Its easy and supports their horse-race approach to all news. They do not report on what policies are advanced by whom at a debate; rather, they report on who "won." We consumers are partly responsible. We don't have the time or patience to digest substantive news that requires either work or prior knowledge of any kind.
    99% of the audience doesn't care about the DJIA. It's there as a Pledge of Allegiance to large financial capitalism. It's not news, it's a liturgy.
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    • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      A man with no hope is a man with no future.

      Suck it up, Buttercup. We have a world to win for my daughter. Your defeatism is not welcome.
      Kep, its good to have you back man. Did you ever find out what happened to your evil twin that was posting out here for the last few years?
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      • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

        Originally posted by Rover View Post
        Kep, its good to have you back man. Did you ever find out what happened to your evil twin that was posting out here for the last few years?
        Careful. I might start on you, too.

        But I have come to understand that defeatism is the greatest threat we face. It's been sewn into our flesh by the baddies and it's why we always self-censor.

        To win we have to be true to our beliefs, and that means daring to dream that we can actually restore America to a good place to live, and a place to be proud of. A government "by the people, of the people, and for the people."

        There are enough of us. I'd say we are the vast majority. But we have to exorcise the fraidy cattism that leads us to compromise right out of the gate. You're godd-mn right I was a democratic socialist western democracy. It is clearly the superior model for a western government for everyone except for a handful of fascists who can't stand other people having rights and plutes who can't stand having any limitations on their divine right to hoard wealth. That enemy is, at absolute most, 25% of the population.

        Shout what we believe in, don't compromise, don't be corrupt, don't be two-faced, don't be hypocritical, cut out the heart of the plutes and their enablers who have burrowed within us (this is the you part, Rover), and the voters will respond.
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        • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

          Originally posted by Rover View Post
          Kep, its good to have you back man. Did you ever find out what happened to your evil twin that was posting out here for the last few years?
          Yeah. But Handy posted that we can't fix education and no one said a word.

          Originally posted by Handyman View Post
          When the average person starts caring about schools again. Dont hold your breathe.
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          • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
            Yeah. But Handy posted that we can't fix education and no one said a word.
            Well then f-ck both of you.

            Better?
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            • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

              Dont drag me into your Chicken Little syndrome. Just because I think people are cheap and selfish doesnt mean I want to give up or that I think any problem cant be fixed. I just think they WONT be fixed until people shift their thinking and priorities.

              I always believe things can get better I just understand they might not. You have never once put out that idea you quit before the fight is fought
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              • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

                Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                Dont drag me into your Chicken Little syndrome. Just because I think people are cheap and selfish doesnt mean I want to give up or that I think any problem cant be fixed. I just think they WONT be fixed.

                I always believe things can get better I just understand they might not. You have never once put out that idea you quit before the fight is fought
                Consider yourself unf-cked.

                It's fine to be aware that there are powerful forces arrayed against us. It's fine to be aware that humans are lazy unless activated -- I know I am.

                But we still have to fight. "If we stop breathing, we die. If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die."
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                • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                  Drew is right though (yeah...I said it) there are people like us who are willing to make the sacrifices...but we are the exception not the rule. (this is where Kep tells us how every Lefty is pure even though all evidence proves otherwise)

                  Me and you have this conversation all the time, we used to live in one of the most liberal cities in one of the most liberal states in the Union...a city so liberal they screwed up their already narrow roads to make bike paths so nimrod Lance Armstrong wannabes can break the rules alongside our cars on the way to the co-op before getting their vegan dog treats. And even here people dont want to pay their taxes all while complaining their roads arent plowed and the sidewalks arent salted 5 seconds after they see flurries are in the forecast.

                  Most people want everything but will sacrifice little to get there. Left or Right, GOP or Democrat it doesnt matter. Our side has less selfish *****s but there are still plenty and we all know it.
                  I realize city councils can screw things up. I’m probably referring more to climate here.
                  One of the other things I enjoyed from yesterday was how the actual scientists talked about the fact republicans will say “I don’t believe in climate change” and how wrong that is. They also talked about how it’s complete bs that people say all journalism is subjective. Facts are facts and if you deny those, you deny reality and you’re doing damage.

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                  • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    Consider yourself unf-cked.

                    It's fine to be aware that there are powerful forces arrayed against us. It's fine to be aware that humans are lazy unless activated -- I know I am.

                    But we still have to fight. "If we stop breathing, we die. If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die."
                    I didnt force myself to watch a bunch of GOPers pontificate about Chalupas for funsies
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                    • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

                      Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                      I realize city councils can screw things up. I’m probably referring more to climate here.
                      One of the other things I enjoyed from yesterday was how the actual scientists talked about the fact republicans will say “I don’t believe in climate change” and how wrong that is. They also talked about how it’s complete bs that people say all journalism is subjective. Facts are facts and if you deny those, you deny reality and you’re doing damage.
                      One of the reasons our mutual Republican friend is no longer a supporter is because he believes in science and they dont. Well that and Trump is a moron and he has a daughter so supporting Anti-Woman candidates isnt really gonna work

                      Cities and States are going to need to make the choices because we cant trust the Fed to do it even when smart people are in charge. Too much money involved. Hell energy rebates are a way in as well I know I was incentivized to be more energy efficient because of them. I know I will look into more and will incur whatever cost is needed.
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                      • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

                        Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                        he has a daughter so supporting Anti-Woman candidates isnt really gonna work
                        I have many co-workers with daughters who are all in on Dump and the GOP. Some are women. Ideology is a hell of a drug.
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                        • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                          Yeah. But Handy posted that we can't fix education and no one said a word.
                          But but but...Handy did it first!

                          JFC...chicken little indeed.
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                          • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

                            Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                            Dont drag me into your Chicken Little syndrome. Just because I think people are cheap and selfish doesnt mean I want to give up or that I think any problem cant be fixed. I just think they WONT be fixed until people shift their thinking and priorities.

                            I always believe things can get better I just understand they might not. You have never once put out that idea you quit before the fight is fought
                            Who gave up? I didn't give up in my post. People sure jump to conclusions around here.
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                            • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers VII: Bon Voyage Beto

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              I have many co-workers with daughters who are all in on Dump and the GOP. Some are women. Ideology is a hell of a drug.
                              He has never been an Idealogue...his conservatism isnt religious based either. He is honestly only conservative on fiscal issues...another reason he hates the modern GOP

                              I cant speak to this 100% but I would guess he doesnt vote in the coming election...not that it matters considering where he lives
                              "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                              -aparch

                              "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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                              • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                                Drew is right though (yeah...I said it) there are people like us who are willing to make the sacrifices...but we are the exception not the rule. (this is where Kep tells us how every Lefty is pure even though all evidence proves otherwise)

                                Me and you have this conversation all the time, we used to live in one of the most liberal cities in one of the most liberal states in the Union...a city so liberal they screwed up their already narrow roads to make bike paths so nimrod Lance Armstrong wannabes can break the rules alongside our cars on the way to the co-op before getting their vegan dog treats. And even here people dont want to pay their taxes all while complaining their roads arent plowed and the sidewalks arent salted 5 seconds after they see flurries are in the forecast.

                                Most people want everything but will sacrifice little to get there. Left or Right, GOP or Democrat it doesnt matter. Our side has less selfish *****s but there are still plenty and we all know it.
                                Imagine thinking bikes are the problem in 2019 lol.
                                Last edited by trixR4kids; 12-06-2019, 04:50 PM.

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